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Method (con)test
    #12323081 - 04/03/10 11:50 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys.

I had two 1/2pt cakes from the same g2g transfer and wanted to test out some new methods.  So far Ive only done cakes then dunk/roll.  With these two I decided to try two slightly different techniques.  One I dunked but skipped the roll and instead just left a good layer of moist verm on the top and in the jar lid underneath.  The other I crumbled (no dunk) into a bowl and surrounded in layers of wet verm.  Here is a pic...



The one I crumbled into the bowl I did a day earlier than the cake due to dunking time and I know the myc would need some time to recover and recolonize a bit... Thus, I have also been keeping the bowl covered with aluminum foil with some holes and will for the next few days till it is really poppin' out.  I expect the cake will probably fruit first... Though, Im wondering which you think will do better?

How about a contest? 

Person who guesses which one will produce more on the first flush and comes closest to guessing its wet weight will get a print of BHT.

Example: "bowl, 100g" (I wish, lol)

I will take pics along the way but only show them when both flush and winners are announced.

This one could take a lil bit, but good luck all.


EDIT  --  CONTEST ENDED
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Ok, results are in!

Bowl - 69.55g wet
Cake - 31.2g wet

In a landslide victory, the bowl takes it with over double the weight.  This bowl was my biggest harvest from a single cake to date and I believe I will use this method from now on.  Even though I don't feel that this is definitively a better method, it seemed to work out well for me.

The winner of the contest with a guess of 71g is Iamu.  PM me with your address and Ill send your print!

Pics to come, probably tomorrow.  Stay tuned!


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: iFung]
    #12323099 - 04/03/10 11:52 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

i think the cake.
and lets say.. 42g.

Good luck man! :laugh:

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Re: Method (con)test [Re: iFung]
    #12323154 - 04/03/10 11:58 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

g2g transfer? Maybe I am missing something here. The method you've used for the first cake is called double end. I don't see holes in your FC though. GL :thumbup:


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: LeopardMan]
    #12323195 - 04/03/10 12:03 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

IMO crumbling ad casing a cake is pointless.
if you crumbled that cake into some substrate, waited for that to colonize an then cased it then without a doubt 100% it would produce a lot more then a cake.

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Re: Method (con)test [Re: bw86]
    #12324082 - 04/03/10 02:31 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

44g bowl


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: getfasterer]
    #12324240 - 04/03/10 03:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

32 cake

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Re: Method (con)test [Re: linkin17222]
    #12324263 - 04/03/10 03:09 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

cake36 bowel 0

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Re: Method (con)test [Re: roaddog]
    #12324269 - 04/03/10 03:10 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

bowl 43g


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: trishraymond]
    #12324925 - 04/03/10 05:26 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

jar - 560kg   

Bucket - 1100 tons

Good luck :thumbup:


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: iFung]
    #12324992 - 04/03/10 05:39 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

bowl 0: it contams

cake : 33g (fresh)


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: yogimeetreats]
    #12325047 - 04/03/10 05:48 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

69 cake


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: Dragonaut]
    #12325150 - 04/03/10 06:07 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

cake 78g wet


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: oden42]
    #12327138 - 04/04/10 01:42 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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g2g transfer? Maybe I am missing something here. The method you've used for the first cake is called double end. I don't see holes in your FC though. GL :thumbup:




There are holes in my FC, though admittedly, not as many as I'd like.  Also, the G2G transfer was the method of inoculation, not the fruiting method (ie a small amount of myc was taken from a fully colonized jar and used to start these two).

Im curious as to why so many think my bowl will not make it?


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: iFung]
    #12327380 - 04/04/10 03:37 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

bowl - 91grms


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: iFung]
    #12327437 - 04/04/10 04:24 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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iFung said:
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g2g transfer? Maybe I am missing something here. The method you've used for the first cake is called double end. I don't see holes in your FC though. GL :thumbup:




There are holes in my FC, though admittedly, not as many as I'd like.  Also, the G2G transfer was the method of inoculation, not the fruiting method (ie a small amount of myc was taken from a fully colonized jar and used to start these two).

Im curious as to why so many think my bowl will not make it?




g2g transfer for cakes? How did you go through the verm layer? Anyway I am not saying your cakes won't make it. I am just saying that your fruiting method is not entirely correct. If you put your cake in a closed tub, with no holes, you will probably get some mushrooms. If you put your cake in a SG terrarium fanning 6+ times and misting 3 times a day you will get a much better yield. GL


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: LeopardMan]
    #12328352 - 04/04/10 11:01 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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g2g transfer for cakes? How did you go through the verm layer? Anyway I am not saying your cakes won't make it. I am just saying that your fruiting method is not entirely correct. If you put your cake in a closed tub, with no holes, you will probably get some mushrooms. If you put your cake in a SG terrarium fanning 6+ times and misting 3 times a day you will get a much better yield. GL




Heh, the g2g transfer with cakes was more or less a shot in the dark "lets see if this will work" thing.  Basically, I had some good jars and some mycelium crumbled off from some cakes I was birthing... So I took a little metal wedge thing, flame sterilized it, opened my jar and slid the wedge down the side of it.  I pried open a little gap between the jar and the verm, then just placed bits of myc in there with some sterile tweezers.  4 to a jar and I had 3 jars to start, 1 got trich within the first week.  These two flourished and here we are.

Also, as I said, my chamber does have holes.  It is a SG chamber, but just doesn't have ALOT of holes... Probably only about 10 per side.  Plus, I do mist and fan quite a lot.


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: LeopardMan]
    #12328511 - 04/04/10 11:29 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

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LeopardMan said:
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iFung said:
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g2g transfer? Maybe I am missing something here. The method you've used for the first cake is called double end. I don't see holes in your FC though. GL :thumbup:




There are holes in my FC, though admittedly, not as many as I'd like.  Also, the G2G transfer was the method of inoculation, not the fruiting method (ie a small amount of myc was taken from a fully colonized jar and used to start these two).

Im curious as to why so many think my bowl will not make it?




g2g transfer for cakes? How did you go through the verm layer? Anyway I am not saying your cakes won't make it. I am just saying that your fruiting method is not entirely correct. If you put your cake in a closed tub, with no holes, you will probably get some mushrooms. If you put your cake in a SG terrarium fanning 6+ times and misting 3 times a day you will get a much better yield. GL




I was a bit curious about this myself. (G2G on a cake)

I actually just found a bunch of pins on my first flat-cake (cake casing) last night; and there is already twice as many as of this morning.  I made a casing with cakes because when I made the cakes I used too much water and they were like, mush.  But, because they were going to fully colonize I thought I'd take the three of them and spawn them to some coir; because the coir was too wet I scraped it off after a week, let it colonize some more vermiculite and put it into fruit.  I can already tell my casing is about to explode, and I actually disagree about cakes being cased as pointless; it may not increase your over-all yield but it can surely effect the size of your flushes due to surface area exposure, plus larger fruits if you crumble more then one cake together - a definite advantage, as opposed to fruiting cakes individually you will never get more then what a 1/2 pint is capable of producing.

Well, I really want that print, my buddy and I almost ordered that variety off of Ralphsters yesturday.

Casing (hard to say, but I'll go with 52g wet)
Cake (49g wet)

Thanks for the contest; good luck with your experimenting

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Re: Method (con)test [Re: plurfekt]
    #12334154 - 04/05/10 08:37 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

BHT is a nice one... Very resistant to contams.  Somewhat mild effect (at least at lower doses) but my experiences have been very positive and happy. :thumbup:


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: iFung]
    #12334171 - 04/05/10 08:44 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

cake at 42
bowl at 20 (turning a cake into a verm casing IME gives crap yeilds)


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Re: Method (con)test [Re: CamKron]
    #12334215 - 04/05/10 09:00 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

cake at 73 grams.

bowl will probably do 69.


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