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Byd
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DMT extraction with NB's tek!
#12325108 - 04/03/10 05:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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SWIM is using four jars that contain: 750ml of distilled Hickley Springs water, 100-110 grams of 100% household lye, and 100-110 grams of powdered MHRB. SWIM is hoping to get some good crystals out of this! SWIM has read a lot on the subject and is hoping to at least get 3-4 grams of yellow crystal and is going to recrystalize it to get a purer product. SWIM is going to let the jars with the lye/MHRB in it sit for 48 hours for better extraction. SWIM just finished the jars today so SWIM will update this thread on what goes down with the whole thing. PICS!
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12325211 - 04/03/10 06:18 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looks like you have the whole set up, good luck with the extractions. Also, my friend always had very good results with only letting the lye/MHRB solution sit for a few hours. He would conduct two pulls and end up with 1-2% yield. I would not expect 3-4 grams from only 100 or so grams of root bark. You will most likely end up closer to 1.5-2 grams but I would like to be proven wrong....for your case!
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: cogent]
#12325256 - 04/03/10 06:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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cogent said: Looks like you have the whole set up, good luck with the extractions. Also, my friend always had very good results with only letting the lye/MHRB solution sit for a few hours. He would conduct two pulls and end up with 1-2% yield. I would not expect 3-4 grams from only 100 or so grams of root bark. You will most likely end up closer to 1.5-2 grams but I would like to be proven wrong....for your case!
Did he use powdered mimosa? And SWIM used 400-410 grams of mimosa equally distributed through the four jars.
Edited by Byd (04/03/10 06:49 PM)
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12325799 - 04/03/10 08:38 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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cogent said: Looks like you have the whole set up, good luck with the extractions. Also, my friend always had very good results with only letting the lye/MHRB solution sit for a few hours. He would conduct two pulls and end up with 1-2% yield. I would not expect 3-4 grams from only 100 or so grams of root bark. You will most likely end up closer to 1.5-2 grams but I would like to be proven wrong....for your case!
Did he use powdered mimosa? And SWIM used 400-410 grams of mimosa equally distributed through the four jars.
Ah cool, I thought you only used 100 grams or so total. With that amount(400grms) you should be able to get to your 3-4 gram mark. My buddy used powdered bark.
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: cogent]
#12326363 - 04/03/10 10:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why did you separate the solution? You are gonna need to do multiple pulls on each jar now....
but besides that
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Odum]
#12326593 - 04/03/10 11:19 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I didn't want to do it all in one big glass thing anyway. I wanted seperate and kind of experiment.
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12326803 - 04/04/10 12:07 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Byd said: I didn't want to do it all in one big glass thing anyway. I wanted seperate and kind of experiment.
Sounds fun, what's the experiment?
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: muistrue]
#12327973 - 04/04/10 09:24 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nothing too special just myself experimenting with extracting DMT itself. To see if different amounts work differently and what would be the end result. I'm not much of a scientist but hopefully one day I will be. I'm going to a community college soon to learn chemistry.
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12329297 - 04/04/10 01:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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UPDATE: I added the Sunnyside VM+P Naptha to the jars today. Two or so hours into it the naptha has a slight yellow tint to it, so far no emulsions and I've been rolling the jars maybe a couple times an hour. Would it still be okay to pull the naptha if its pretty clear? The naptha turns a brownish color when I mix it up but it eventually settles.
Edited by Byd (04/04/10 01:40 PM)
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12329367 - 04/04/10 01:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Byd said: UPDATE: I added the Sunnyside VM+P Naptha to the jars today. Two or so hours into it the naptha has a slight yellow tint to it, so far no emulsions and I've been rolling the jars maybe a couple times an hour. Would it still be okay to pull the naptha if its pretty clear? The naptha turns a brownish color when I mix it up but it eventually settles.
Yea, just make sure you have mixed it thoroughly multiple times and it should have captured a lot of DMT.
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12329449 - 04/04/10 02:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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DMT is too easy....i wouldnt even really call it chemistry .....i would do an evaporation test on some of the naphtha by pouring a little bit in a CLEAN bowl, and float the bowl on HOT but not boiling water until it all evaporates, and inspect if there is ANY residue....mine left an oily type film on the bowl vm&p naphtha too ......Are you using pre-powdered? I clean my pulls with sodium carbonate before i freeze to clean any fats or lye before freezing, and i do a re-xstal to make sure its PURE product in the end Good Luck........The first time i ever extracted DMT, it was this stb tek, and i used pre-powdered and got BROWN naphtha and sodium carbonate SAVED my ass.......I dont really like STB, and prefer simmering the bark in lemon juice water several times like aya, but add NaOH saturaed water to the mimosa tea, and pull with naphtha....its my little a/b tek.....It seperates way FASTER and doesnt have as much solid bark because i filter each lemon juice-water simmer through a t-shirt and cloth
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The naptha is pretty much clear, a very slight slight tint of yellow. I have sodium carbonate but I don't what exactly I should do with it. Even getting a little bit of the MHRB/Lye solution I can feel an oily residue. I'm going to wait 24 hours until taking any out and I guess I'll just try freezing it up and see what happens. I didn't mean DMT was very hard chemistry lol.
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12331504 - 04/04/10 07:51 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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dude youre going to pull at ton outta those jars! have fun
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12331723 - 04/04/10 08:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Byd said: The naptha is pretty much clear, a very slight slight tint of yellow. I have sodium carbonate but I don't what exactly I should do with it. Even getting a little bit of the MHRB/Lye solution I can feel an oily residue. I'm going to wait 24 hours until taking any out and I guess I'll just try freezing it up and see what happens. I didn't mean DMT was very hard chemistry lol.
Dont forget to evap. your naphtha to about 50% original volume before you freeze precip.
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: cogent]
#12331889 - 04/04/10 08:37 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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How do I clean my pulls with sodium carbonate? You put the naptha into a bowl floating on hot water to evap 50% right?
Edited by Byd (04/04/10 08:50 PM)
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12332024 - 04/04/10 08:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Byd said: How do I do that? Sorry, for all the questions.
No worries. Once you pull your naphtha, put it in a jar (small canning jars work best), then set it by a fan on the "low" setting and evaporate the naphtha until you have half of what you started with (may take more that 12hrs or so depending on how much naphtha you have). This will help the crystals to form properly when you put the naphtha in the freezer.
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: cogent]
#12332080 - 04/04/10 08:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Byd said: How do I do that? Sorry, for all the questions.
No worries. Once you pull your naphtha, put it in a jar (small canning jars work best), then set it by a fan on the "low" setting and evaporate the naphtha until you have half of what you started with (may take more that 12hrs or so depending on how much naphtha you have). This will help the crystals to form properly when you put the naphtha in the freezer.
I have Ball Elite Collection 1/2 pint wide mouth jars for that.
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12332608 - 04/04/10 10:49 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I didnt have to evap my pulls halfway at all and still got perfect results....Tho doing the half-evap before freezing does make it WAY more saturated and will get you more...im just too lazy and impatient ....... Hey Byd, "even getting a little bit of the mhrb/lye mixture solution i can feel an oily residue" ...Wuh i dont get what you meant
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I was really stoned when I wrote that haha. I meant to say that whenever I got the Lye/MHRB solution onto my hands even after excessively washing them with soap and water I'd still feel an oily residue on the skin.
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12333117 - 04/05/10 12:42 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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You mean you got the brown mhrb/lye, on your hands, and washed it off with soap but still felt a slimy oily residue? Ive gotten basified water on my skin before too, and it felt very slimy and it took excessive hot water and soap and wiping my hands with towels to get the slimy feeling off.....I would recommend being careful with the lye....
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I never got the basified water onto my hands, only the lye/MHRB solution. UPDATE: about 24 hours into it and the naptha is pretty much clear as usual but has a slight yellow tint to it. I'm going to freeze precip today and report what goes down.
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12334195 - 04/05/10 08:53 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I know this goes contrary to what someone else said but IME evap AT LEAST 50%.
I prefer down to 1/3 of original volume. It seems to make precipitation faster.
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Odum]
#12334285 - 04/05/10 09:25 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Byd said: I never got the basified water onto my hands, only the lye/MHRB solution. UPDATE: about 24 hours into it and the naptha is pretty much clear as usual but has a slight yellow tint to it. I'm going to freeze precip today and report what goes down.
The lye/mhrb is a basified water solution and that oily/slimy feeling you are experiencing on your skin is your skin cells breaking down
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: cogent]
#12334334 - 04/05/10 09:40 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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all bases feel slimy
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Dont worry all that happens is it seeps into ever pore and fissure in your skin and burns there. Resulting in boils on your skin. just kidding
but for real
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Odum]
#12335175 - 04/05/10 12:22 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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UPDATE: I evapped about 1/4-1/3 of the Naptha I poured into 1/2 pint jars. I turned my freezer on the highest setting and set the jars into the freezer. Within about hour to two hours the liquid has turned cloudy. Hoping for a good pull!
Edited by Byd (04/05/10 12:35 PM)
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12335362 - 04/05/10 12:51 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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excited to see the results! you should get a nice outcome w all those jars
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killuminati420 said: You mean you got the brown mhrb/lye, on your hands, and washed it off with soap but still felt a slimy oily residue? Ive gotten basified water on my skin before too, and it felt very slimy and it took excessive hot water and soap and wiping my hands with towels to get the slimy feeling off.....I would recommend being careful with the lye....
Vinegar...
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Angel_Above]
#12335893 - 04/05/10 02:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good links for DMT extraction?
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12335924 - 04/05/10 02:30 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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You have the EXACT same turkey baster as i use ....I shoved a little piece of a fish pump hose in the tip to make it a tighter pull
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First pull went 100% perfectly!! I smoked a bowl last night of it and WOW. I would have never expected anything like that! I did another pull this morning with little bit less results. When I put the jars into the freezer some of the naptha evaperates. Can I put more naptha ontop of the Lye/MHRB solution and wait another 24 hours to pull some more? Here's pics of two of the jars I pulled!
Edited by Byd (04/06/10 08:03 AM)
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12340854 - 04/06/10 07:57 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cool job team
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killuminati420 said: You have the EXACT same turkey baster as i use ....I shoved a little piece of a fish pump hose in the tip to make it a tighter pull
Every once in a while I'd pull some Lye/MHRB solution but it would immediately seperate in the turkey baster lol
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Odum]
#12340858 - 04/06/10 07:59 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks Odum! I'll bring up some more pics of future pulls I do. Thanks for all the help!
Edited by Byd (04/06/10 07:59 AM)
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12340878 - 04/06/10 08:13 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Remember to do pulls till nothing comes out except gooey junk. I would leave later pulls in for 12+hours at least.
also keep naptha you freeze precip and keep using it OR combine all used naptha and evap down for like 3 days.
I once got 1/3 a gram from 5 USED pulls put together and evap'd for a week.
Oh and either go for 1. Bong with no water (dmt on herb) 2. Base pipe.
fuck smoking it like crack (aka 'the machine')
Edited by Odum (04/06/10 08:14 AM)
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Re: DMT extraction with NB's tek! [Re: Byd]
#12341117 - 04/06/10 09:34 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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With that baster, i noticed if you pull slowly, it has more chances of sucking up mhrb/lye...When i stick a fish hose tube in the end of it, and instead of pulling slowly, i pull it with a big fast sucktion and no lye comes up I also do the sodium carbonate cleaning to get PURE dmt .....How did your first dmt exp. go?
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killuminati420 said:How did your first dmt exp. go?
It went so insane! If you go to dmt-nexus.com they have a level system to rate your trips. For the first time it was a level one or like 5-10 hits of acid. The second time every color and shade started to melt together into a single plane of crazy geometric shapes right infront of my face and then for about 10 seconds I saw a tunnel form from the middle of that plane.
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