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OfflineBigJohnson
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: JssMthrFcknChrst]
    #1296892 - 02/10/03 01:18 PM (21 years, 19 days ago)

Bake them in the oven at 250 F for a half-hour. Then, pour the salt crystals into your acetone and pour off the acetone. The salts absorb any water in the acetone.


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OfflineJssMthrFcknChrst
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1297020 - 02/10/03 02:00 PM (21 years, 19 days ago)

Its just that easy? Sounds too good to be true.

I suppose since salts don't disolve in acetone, there won't be any salt added to the acetone, but what about other things in the salts? Couldn't this lead to undesired waste in the acetone?

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OfflineDr. Slavic
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1298896 - 02/11/03 06:08 AM (21 years, 18 days ago)

I always bake my epsom salt for an hour at 350F Till its all bubblely and slightly brown and crush it into powder. Works great. I have tried drying for less time but never dried all the way. Then just put the salt in acetone or other non-polar, swirl around and filter the salt out. easy!!


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Invisibledurban_poison
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: JssMthrFcknChrst]
    #1304915 - 02/13/03 06:14 AM (21 years, 16 days ago)

so after reading through all these posts it seems like a cluster fuck of ideas. Have any of you got this to work yet? If so could you make it one easy reading post then mad info mixed up with out results?


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OfflineJssMthrFcknChrst
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: durban_poison]
    #1304926 - 02/13/03 06:19 AM (21 years, 16 days ago)

Working on it...
We take our time around here. Not to worry, results should be coming soon.


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OfflineBob_J
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: JssMthrFcknChrst]
    #1313416 - 02/17/03 06:34 AM (21 years, 12 days ago)

bump


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Offlinepseudopod
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: Bob_J]
    #1431840 - 04/05/03 05:21 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

bump

Has anyone been able to produce a clean extraction reliably? Testify! I can see this being a useful solution to many of the drawbacks some growers see in fungi (especially taste, long-term storage and standardized dosage).


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OfflineJssMthrFcknChrst
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: pseudopod]
    #1432521 - 04/05/03 09:48 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

COMING VERY SOON: Results of this extraction tek!

Just a few more days now!


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Offlinepseudopod
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: JssMthrFcknChrst]
    #1432668 - 04/05/03 11:07 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Could it be devine intervention? Leave it to the Son of the Lord Almighty to show us the way...


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OfflineJssMthrFcknChrst
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: pseudopod]
    #1432698 - 04/05/03 11:24 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Could it be devine intervention?



No, it is probably the Devil leading you astray.


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OfflineCultyVader
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: JssMthrFcknChrst]
    #1434065 - 04/06/03 07:04 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Does anyone knmow why all of XO's posts are deleted? They seem to have pretty important bearing to the conversation and leaves big holes in the fluidity of this post.


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OfflineJssMthrFcknChrst
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: CultyVader]
    #1435939 - 04/07/03 11:33 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Do a search on all posts by XO, and you'll see that it appears that Moe Howard has something against him.

Since this thread has become a cluster fuck, I will post the results in a new thread, detailing the procedure more clearly.


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OfflineFluidElite
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: vader]
    #1440475 - 04/08/03 07:17 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Be very careful with lye.  OTC NaOH contains high levels of heavy metals.  Mercury, Lead, ect.  Very Bad stuff.




not true Red Devils Lye is 99% NaOH :smile:
Mercury, Lead etc dont' even go into NaOH synthesis..... Come on ... u know that

Na+ (metal) + H20 ------> NaOH + (1/2) H2

:smile:
its very exothermic.


 


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OfflineJssMthrFcknChrst
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: JssMthrFcknChrst]
    #1450115 - 04/11/03 02:35 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Unfortunatly there was a problem with the process. My associate was unable to seperate the methanol extract from the acetone when attempted to wash. The pH may have been slightly off, or there may have been some other problem. Anyone know if methanol and acetone should seperate easily?

Results of this tek will have to wait, sorry for anyone waiting on the edge of their seats, I know I was.

2nd attempt will take place shortly. (this time my associate will wear gloves when working with HCl, ouch)

jssmthrfcknchrst


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OfflineBigJohnson
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: JssMthrFcknChrst]
    #1450186 - 04/11/03 02:55 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Dude, evap the methanol BEFORE washing :smile:


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OfflineJssMthrFcknChrst
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: BigJohnson]
    #1452446 - 04/12/03 12:39 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Too late now :smile:

Thanks for the correction though, have to do that next time

Well, back to the waiting game!


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Invisiblemycophreak
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10 steps to heaven (was: extraction - psilocybin hcl salt) [Re: JssMthrFcknChrst]
    #1454228 - 04/13/03 03:49 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

It really is much more simple than most people think.

1. Powder mushrooms in blender
2. soak powder in 140 proof ethanol = 70 percent alcohol. Soak for 12 hours (or so), in the fridge but roomtemp is probably OK too.
3. evaporate the liquid (big shallow dish, table fan) to 1/10 of the volume
4. add a few drops of hydrochloric or muriatic acid to convert all ionic and freebase alkaloids into salts
5. put the acidified extract in a tall vial
6a. remove resins with naphta or petroleum ether. These liquids float on top of the extract. To remove the resins, just add naphta or pet ether, shake, let settle and remove/separate the layers with a pipette or syringe. Discard the naphta/pet ether.
6b. repeat step 6a.
7a+b. remove other unwanted stuff and a lot of water with acetone. This goes in exactly the same style as step 6.
8. Add 190 proof or 95-96 percent ethanol (denatured alcohol is no problem as long it is denatured with methanol or acetone). Close the vial and place it in boiling water. If you have a small, thick walled glass bottle or vial you can even place it in a pc.
9. Heat the mixture and then allow it to cool down (slowly). The fine white crystals which precipitate (rain down) as first from the solutiuon is what you are looking for.
10 remove the excess liquid and save the crystals.


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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: JssMthrFcknChrst]
    #1457426 - 04/14/03 03:03 PM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Dont throw it away!

You can still recover your product by evaporating the solvent.


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OfflineJssMthrFcknChrst
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: Catalysis]
    #1459199 - 04/15/03 01:20 AM (20 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah. Thats what was done. But it was used without getting a acetone wash, not a crystaline end product.


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OfflinePooPs
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Re: mushroom extraction - psilocybin hcl salt [Re: JssMthrFcknChrst]
    #1500889 - 04/28/03 02:05 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

oh,, my eyes hurt.. that was a lot of reading!!!!. ( bump ).

So, does it yield gram per gram, the same as dried fruits?

Well, not gram per gram.... but dosewise is what i mean??


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