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Fahkface
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Re: First Time [Re: 8joker]
#12348808 - 04/07/10 01:33 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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It isn't. It's just that when you're present to fan your tub, your also present to mist. Which you wouldn't, when you're away
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Fahkface said: I'd rather stick to the regular Shotgung FC tek, that provides constant FAE.
When you fan your tub without misting it, the chances for the cakes to dry out are pretty high.
that's how.
edit: fahkface beat me to it.
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Ah, that explains it. Typical know-it-all noob. We get a few thousand just like you register here every year. They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.
We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends.
Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing. They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end. They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection. These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
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8joker
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Again, I don't really understand how is a fan blowing for a few minutes every day different from somebody waving his hands for a few minutes every day? It's just air flowing, and if properly set up it would be roughly the same amount of air. What am I not getting?
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Re: First Time [Re: 8joker]
#12348921 - 04/07/10 01:49 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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srsly?
you won't be there to mist it.
what don't you get?
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[quote]RogerRabbit said:
Ah, that explains it. Typical know-it-all noob. We get a few thousand just like you register here every year. They try a few grows, fail miserably and then after a few months or one bad trip, go back to sniffing glue, never to be seen again.
We have a basic pf tek that's idiot proof enough for noobs to get fucked up with their friends.
Mycologists on the other hand grow for the love of growing. They want to experiment with various species, substrates, and fruiting environments. They'll move on to isolate strains, attempt hybridization, and in general treat cultivation as an artform, rather than a chore that must be performed as a means to an end. They'll work twice as hard for a ten percent gain, just for the love of perfection. These are the ones who will isolate strains, not the dumb fucks who treat mushrooms as a drug, or even worse, a pathogen, as if mushrooms cause disease.
RR [/quote]
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Re: First Time [Re: 8joker]
#12348933 - 04/07/10 01:51 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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What am I not getting?
You are not getting the following: When you fan you increase the loss of water from the substrate. This lost water needs to be replaced by misting.
If you fan manually you can also mist.
As long as you PC fan can also mist your cakes, you're fine. When it can't there's no one there to mist the cakes.
Now
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8joker
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Re: First Time [Re: 8joker]
#12348965 - 04/07/10 01:55 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh... when manually fanning you have to mist too? Must have missed it. Well, I'll have to think of some other method, I guess...
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8joker
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Re: First Time [Re: 8joker]
#12398361 - 04/15/10 12:58 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Day 13:


The best colonized jar is at about 80% and the worst one is at about 15%. Do the fast ones produce bigger fruits?
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Re: First Time [Re: 8joker]
#12398404 - 04/15/10 01:06 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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you get 5 from me for makin drinking glasses work for you man great job so far!! good luck 
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8joker
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Thanks man
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Re: First Time [Re: 8joker]
#12447997 - 04/24/10 05:54 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Any updates joker?
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8joker
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Re: First Time [Re: dstark]
#12448090 - 04/24/10 07:07 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Most of the jars are at 85%-99%, the slowest one is at about 50%. They should be ready for birthing in a few days.

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8joker
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Re: First Time [Re: 8joker]
#12484527 - 04/30/10 04:24 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, so now I have one jar that is fully colonized for a few days now and has hypal knots (I think). The other jars will be ready in about 4 days or so. Should I birth the fully colonized one now or would it be better to wait till the other jars are also colonized and birth them together?
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Re: First Time [Re: 8joker]
#12485004 - 04/30/10 06:13 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'd hold off and go for together.. It's nice to have a fuller fruiting chamber, as a micro-climate is created between the cakes which further induces pinning. You'll want to leave the cakes in the glasses a bit past 100% colonization though in order to consolidate substrate further.
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Re: First Time [Re: Nme]
#12485320 - 04/30/10 07:09 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I guess I'll hold off for a few more days and hope the cake doesn't pin. Thanks.
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Re: First Time [Re: 8joker]
#12487251 - 05/01/10 03:32 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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as a micro-climate is created between the cakes which further induces pinning.
What kind of micro-climate exactly are you talking about? A single cake performs just as well, as a bunch of cakes in the FC.
If the cake already produces knots, I'd birth, dunk and roll it now. If the knots form pins, the fruits that eventually develop are likely to be deformed, because they were pressed against the jar walls.
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8joker
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OK, then I guess I'll birth it in 2 days or so and the others later. (unless it is ok to dunk it for 2 days - then I can birth it now) Are these really knots?


Also, the weekly group photo.(I flipped the ones that had only the bottom left uncovered because they were slowing down)
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Re: First Time [Re: 8joker]
#12491858 - 05/02/10 12:57 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are these really knots?
Yup!
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8joker
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OK, I need quick help, please. I dunked the colonized cake for almost 24h and tried to roll it, but the verm doesn't stick. I put the half-rolled cake in the FC so it doesn't dry out for now. I guess it happened because the verm was too coarse. What should I do now?
Edit: re-rolled it with broken down verm... still didn't stick too well. hope it's not too bruised after all the rolling.
Edited by 8joker (05/03/10 11:58 AM)
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Fahkface said: What kind of micro-climate exactly are you talking about? A single cake performs just as well, as a bunch of cakes in the FC.
Well I am talking on an rather trivial level, but I've always found that a single cake does not perform as well in a shotgun FC when it comes to initiating pins etc. This most likely could indeed be due to my FC's inadequacies, although I have heard a few trusted members saying similar and had just accepted this as fact (Maybe just good advice to n00bs who probably dont have a 100% efficient terarrium). Perhaps this is simply the nature of a shotgun FC as opposed to other automated FCs (which would give a better distribution of moisture). I believe the concept was that a cluster of neighbouring moist masses would produce a higher domestic humidity or microclimate between themselves. I know this is the purpose of the FC itself, providing enclosure etc, but also the proximity of adjacent cakes would further heighten humidity on a sub-level to the terrarium (Hence I said 'micro'-climate) Or am I getting my definitions wrong?
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Re: First Time [Re: 8joker]
#12503467 - 05/04/10 06:42 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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8joker said: OK, I need quick help, please. I dunked the colonized cake for almost 24h and tried to roll it, but the verm doesn't stick. I put the half-rolled cake in the FC so it doesn't dry out for now. I guess it happened because the verm was too coarse. What should I do now?
Edit: re-rolled it with broken down verm... still didn't stick too well. hope it's not too bruised after all the rolling. 
I had the exact same problem buddy,and haven't really found a satisfactory answer.  all the cakes I've seen seem completely covered in the verm casing.
RR replied in my thread and said you need the cakes soaking before applying the verm on the roll-hence his spraying under a faucet before dropping in the verm. For me,I've found this soaking and a BIG bowl full of verm helps-dropping te cake in a bowl where it is covered by te verm,maybe?
At least I'm notthe only one to have this silly problem!
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