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killswitch
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mushroom compost
#1231516 - 01/19/03 02:53 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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hey i saw this stuff called mushroom compost while i was looking for manure. anyway, i was wonderin if anyone had tried this stuff out.
here is the list of ingredients: composted straw, sphagnum peat moss, cow manure, chicken manure, organic carbon, nitrogen, cottonseed meal, soybean meal, potash, gypsum, and dolomite lime for ph balance.
i figured i would try it out and also just plain manure. do you think this stuff would work?
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Re: mushroom compost [Re: killswitch]
#1231525 - 01/19/03 02:57 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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You will have better results with manure.
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motaman
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Re: mushroom compost [Re: killswitch]
#1231588 - 01/19/03 03:38 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Do a search here at shroomery. You'll learn that it is compost that was used previously for mushrooms. From what I've read it is not good to use.
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motaman
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Re: mushroom compost [Re: killswitch]
#1231592 - 01/19/03 03:41 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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sinoptiK
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Re: mushroom compost [Re: motaman]
#1231627 - 01/19/03 04:00 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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how do you suppose that mushroom compost is not useful in casing? Considering the alternatives, any type of compost that is rich and mixed with vermiculite to allow it to breathe is good for casing. If you are looking for a source of compost, check out www.homesteadbook.com. They sell kits but if you call them and ask them for just compost, ask nicely of course, they will sell it to you (unsterilized) for 12$ shipped. It's been awhile so you'd have to check on the amount they give you for that much, but compost is and will continue to be a great casing material since it holds in humidity and provides many nutrients for the mycelium.
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motaman
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Re: mushroom compost [Re: sinoptiK]
#1231666 - 01/19/03 04:12 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well if you were to buy compost that wasn't spent or already used to grow shrooms in(which is what they sell in stores). Then you would be okay. But typically if its packaged it would be spent. Meaning alreading used in cultivating shrooms. This is what I can determine from what I have seen and been informed of from store personnel and from what I have learned from other people in this forum. And as you can see by my posts and when I registered. I am no expert. But I can read. And I do alot of it. And I tend to respect what elder shroomerites have to say. IMO he should search the threads. Maybe I'm wrong. Peace.
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Roadkill
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Re: mushroom compost [Re: killswitch]
#1231909 - 01/19/03 05:24 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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hey i saw this stuff called mushroom compost while i was looking for manure. anyway, i was wonderin if anyone had tried this stuff out.
As someone already said...this stuff has already been used for growing mushrooms. It is spent material...All the good nutrients that we want have been already used up making store bought type mushrooms. In my area this compost probably comes from the mushroom farm in Yelm Washington. It's great for your yard....but not for growing any more mushrooms.
They should call it something else.
You would actually do better with store bought manure than the mushroom compost.
good luck!
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MicronMagick
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Re: mushroom compost [Re: Roadkill]
#1231935 - 01/19/03 05:33 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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hmm, let us know how it goes if you try it.
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Roadkill
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Well you and the other guy are completely wrong!!! Did you take the time to read what the guy wrote for the ingredients? No where did I read spent mushroom substrate which if it had any in there it would be on the label.
What would the used mushroom compost have listed as ingredients??? The same things.
I suggest asking the store if this was used compost from a mushroom farm!!!
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motaman
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Well all I can say is do a search..I am new but..Your taking chances of growing funky shit.. from what I have seen in other posts.. I respect what Roadkill says..I was just giving my opinion from what I have seen posted about this subject. I would look to advice from people like Roadkill, for instance..
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MicronMagick
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Re: mushroom compost [Re: Roadkill]
#1232121 - 01/19/03 06:35 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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MicronMagick
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Re: mushroom compost [Re: motaman]
#1232129 - 01/19/03 06:38 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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MicronMagick
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Re: mushroom compost [Re: motaman]
#1232160 - 01/19/03 06:55 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anno
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As far I know it?s the other way around.
If it?s spent mushroom substrate form A. bisporus cultivation, it just says "mushroom compost".
If it?s unspent mushroom compost designed for growing mushrooms, it will explicitly say so.
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MicronMagick
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Re: mushroom compost [Re: Anno]
#1232203 - 01/19/03 07:21 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anno
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>the only way to tell the two apart for sure is in the ingredients Let?s follow what you say let us look at the ingredients. What?s the difference in the ingredients of the spent mushroom compost and the fresh mushroom compost? The casing layer. The main casing layer ingredient is peat. So, would you say, as soon peat is among the listed ingredients, it is spent mushroom compost?
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MicronMagick
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Re: mushroom compost [Re: Anno]
#1232309 - 01/19/03 08:22 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anno
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>Go look at any commercial compost and your going to find peat.
Commercial compost for plants, yes.
But NEVER in a compost designed for the growth of A. bisporus.
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MicronMagick
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Re: mushroom compost [Re: Anno]
#1232430 - 01/19/03 09:33 PM (21 years, 2 months ago) |
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