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deucedbi9
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Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll
#12309916 - 04/01/10 01:42 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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the ever increasing number of freebies/givaways in the mush cult forum recently, are (IMO) a distraction from it's main purpose,ie questions about, and tips on the cultivation of mushrooms!
i propose that all freebies/givaways be confined to a newly titled- Asking for Freebies - Freebies/Givaways HERE ONLY- stickied thread.
edited to reflect concerns brought up by members in the thread.
Edited by deucedbi9 (05/04/10 10:38 AM)
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avorg
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY [Re: deucedbi9]
#12309932 - 04/01/10 01:48 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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contests, etc. should be held in the marketplace, technically.
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intlslacker
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: deucedbi9]
#12309955 - 04/01/10 01:59 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I voted no, but I agree with you and avorg. It's nice that members want to give away free stuff to noobs who can't get into the marketplace, but then that kind of defeats the purpose of the post and time requirements. I'm not suggesting that people should be restricted from trading, that is their own business. But the cult forum doesn't seem like the right place for it.
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avorg
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: intlslacker]
#12309981 - 04/01/10 02:10 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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true, and I for one like to know that if I'm giving something away, it will go to good use. with the time/post restrictions, the idea(I think) is that a person will have asked questions and tried some things, or at least done some planning. not to say that someone new to the hobby shouldn't be allowed to get free stuff, but they should come into their own through trial and error. buy some syringes, do some research, try a few cakes, go from there.
don't be spoiled thinking "oh well, they're free anyway" - someone put a lot of effort into making a print or syringe, if they did it right. and besides that, the sponsors are what keeps this place alive(thanks!) and if everyone who wanted any print or syringe got one for free, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion right now.
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intlslacker
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: avorg]
#12310003 - 04/01/10 02:17 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Listen, buddy, this place is kept alive on Hopes and Dreams.
Also, I always thought it was more for the protection of the users, so people aren't just popping on, welching on a trade, and then disappearing (or starting a new account).
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avorg
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: intlslacker]
#12310017 - 04/01/10 02:21 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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intlslacker said: Listen, buddy, this place is kept alive on Hopes and Dreams.

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intlslacker said: Also, I always thought it was more for the protection of the users, so people aren't just popping on, welching on a trade, and then disappearing (or starting a new account).
maybe true, but don't forget about trade ratings. that's what I look at if I think about trading with someone, not how many posts they have.
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deucedbi9
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: avorg]
#12310152 - 04/01/10 03:35 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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avorg said: - someone put a lot of effort into making a print or syringe, if they did it right. and besides that, the sponsors are what keeps this place alive(thanks!) and if everyone who wanted any print or syringe got one for free, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion right now.
i agree. maybe i should have added another question to the poll> should all " Freebies + givaways and contests" be banned from mush cult. after all. it's not allowed to link to non sponser sites that sell prints/syringes,and yet,threads giving them away are permited. kinda undermines the sponsers.no?
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: deucedbi9]
#12310167 - 04/01/10 04:00 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't think contests or giveaways should be in the marketplace... That immediately excludes all us newbies that haven't been around 3 months, and some of the contests are aimed towards us noobs
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: Frinkz]
#12310175 - 04/01/10 04:11 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I voted no. I do not see any problem
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Fleadh
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: LeopardMan]
#12310214 - 04/01/10 04:47 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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contests are fun and there is no shortage of informative posts so its win-win (with added win) all round.
Ive never won a contest though.
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: Fleadh]
#12310364 - 04/01/10 06:44 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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who goes to the marketplace anyway? there's nothing wrong with contests/giveaways or else it wouldnt be happening. i think its cool, selfless. Brings unity in the community. and if you dont want to be a part of a contest, all you have to do is not click on the post(which means to do nothing at all). pretty cool i think.
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: Breadnbutterfly86]
#12310371 - 04/01/10 06:52 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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It would be hard to make a freebie/contest/giveaway thread, because lots of contest and giveaways require responses from the participants, and all of the cross posting from the different contests would start to get confusing. A freebie/contest/giveaway subforum, maybe, but I don't think that will happen considering we have the market place already.
I don't mind that it took me three months and 50 posts to access the market place. It didn't really prevent me from getting prints, with all the random giveaways that happen in this forum, or if I saw someone with a bad ass grow, I would just pm them and ask for a print and they'd send it no problem. Besides, I know I don't speak for everyone, but when I first started cruising these forums, if you had given me spores back then, I probably wouldn't have been able to get them to germinate back then. The three month 50 post thing is there so people are forced to do at least a menial amount of research before they obtain genetics.
I think it's a good system we have in place. Win-win is a good way to describe it.
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: Breadnbutterfly86]
#12310373 - 04/01/10 06:54 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think all the give aways etc should be restricted to the markplatz. You need to earn that right to get free shit, shroomery hazing.
I had a contest in mush cult once it were wank, never again, check the market place for your chance to get Pan Jam prints.

Your poll is also invalid.
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deucedbi9
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: LeopardMan]
#12310506 - 04/01/10 07:55 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Fleadh said: contests are fun and there is no shortage of informative posts.
print/syringe contests may be fun,but,they got nothing to do with cultivation,any more than a contest to win a bag of vermiculite would!
problem is that interesting and "informative posts" have to compete with all the noobs trying to "win" their first spore print,and by continualy bumping these irrelivant threads,have the opposite effect,of spreading infomation.the whole reason for this forum and indeed the site.
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LeopardMan said: I voted no. I do not see any problem 
perhaps if we had the entire front page taken up with contests as every noob tries to bump their ratings, by making a givaway/contest thread,you might begin to see a problem.
how many contests do we need to have per day before the main aim of mush cult,to spread mushroom cultivation information, gets lost in the dross.
badman>Your poll is also invalid.
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Edited by deucedbi9 (04/01/10 07:58 AM)
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libertaire
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: deucedbi9]
#12310524 - 04/01/10 08:00 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Come on man, you're making a bigger deal of this than it really is. Right now on the front page, there's 2 contests/giveaways. Out of what, 50 or so posts? I don't see how that kind of ratio could lead to losing the meaning of this forum. It's really not an issue dude. The only reason it's an issue is because you're making it one.
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: badman]
#12310531 - 04/01/10 08:02 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Maybe there should be a special contest subforum...? I agree that having contests in a stickied thread would get really confusing due to all the posts. That way the contests wouldn't get buried and people wouldn't have to bump them to get more entries.
Personally, I think the contests are fine in the cult forum since the number of contests is significantly less than cult questions, and I always go back a ways to check for new posts to read anyway. I do kinda think that asking for freebies should be relegated to it's own thread, but I can see that thread getting abused and turning into something like a n00b marketplace. Not that there's anything wrong with noobs trading at all, I think people should have access to trading and spores, but it has the potential to be abused is all.
But yeah, I think a subforum would rock, that way if you they'd be out of the cult questions, and they'd all be in one easy to access area.
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: Sanguine]
#12310554 - 04/01/10 08:08 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would support a subforum. If we can get the support for it, I think the mods will do it. Perhaps start a new thread with a poll asking if we should start a noob contest/freebie subforum?
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LeopardMan
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: deucedbi9]
#12310569 - 04/01/10 08:11 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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deucedbi9 said: perhaps if we had the entire front page taken up with contests as every noob tries to bump their ratings, by making a givaway/contest thread,you might begin to see a problem
I see where you are coming from but I think you would agree that this is not the case. Besides I strongly believe that rules are necessary but I don't make myself ill over them. Too many rules and too much order will spoil the main quality of this site, which I believe is flexibility. I think we should accept a reasonable amount of chaos. No need to worry about that. We are psychonauts, aren't we? Just my 2 cents.
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Edited by LeopardMan (04/01/10 08:32 AM)
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badman


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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: Sanguine]
#12310615 - 04/01/10 08:20 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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 How dare you!!
Theres no need for a contest subforum.
MARKETPLACE.
OP makes a valid point, the forum does get clogged up sick and contests will always be bumped more than interesting cult topics which is bollocks.
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bw86
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Re: Asking for Freebies + givaways and contests HERE ONLY ...with poll [Re: badman]
#12310640 - 04/01/10 08:24 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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all give a ways (contest) should be done in the market place but do believe he cult forum could use a contest now and then.
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