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Offline3eyedgod
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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1169796 - 12/25/02 01:23 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I do not believe in many Eastern teachings which make us all a part of God. God is on His own.

If you write a song, a poem, a story, a play, or paint a picture, aren't they a "part" of you, and you a part of them.


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Without everything wouldn't nothing be everything and without nothing wouldn't everything be nothing.I am the beginning and the end,the source and the void, the light and the darkness,i am but a small drop of the ocean yet i am an ocean unto myself

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1170127 - 12/25/02 03:50 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1171086 - 12/26/02 07:43 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

why do you have a signature?


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1171477 - 12/26/02 12:23 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

He is the only one who knows all things at all times and can meditate on all of that information at the same time. He is the only one who can experience a thousand years of existence all at the same time. I could go on.

I beg to differ. What's the highest level trip you've ever taken? Please go on.


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an ans [Re: Swami]
    #1171686 - 12/26/02 02:56 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Hey! I heard that!  :smile:


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #1171816 - 12/26/02 03:36 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Hmmm...Have you ever experienced the expansion of a warm glow of affection grow into a raging fire of [asexual] passion, during which you wanted to express just how much a buddy meant to you, but you didn't know how to do that for fear of being misunderstood? Maybe you were drunk, or tripping. Ever been celibate for a long time and the gratitude of having found someone who let you into her body and perhaps her heart, powered by the heat of sexual desire, rent your own heart, and for a time you felt absolute love for that person? Have you ever taken a high dose of acid, alone, perhaps in a sunny field on a spring day and not only experienced the smells, sounds and sights of nature, but when you looked at the sky you saw silvery-blue kaleidoscopic displays of pearly gates; and when you closed your eyes you saw Light or Colored Visions that you couldn't describe, while feeling ecstatic, which you also couldn't describe, and wanted God to just take you at that moment because you Knew that even though it meant that your family would find your corpse, you just Knew that you'd be caught up into ever-higher states of ecstasy and Light? Have you ever gotten very frightened for your life, say, come down with cancer, been treated, and given a bill of health; or come very close to death in some accident, and felt the gratitude that followed?

Do you ever pray, or do you just feel stupid like you're talking to the air or to yourself? It is OK to pray for 'things,' but that is not the whole of it. Did you ever just 'wish' that someone would recover from illness, and they did, or if they died, they died in peace, without fear? Have you ever had 'satori' experiences out of knowhere, when everything was A-OK and all your doubts, fears, internal chatter and negative feelings had vanished - if only for a moment - and you felt grateful?

If you can answer yes to any of these questions, then you can follow any of those experiences to God, just like a radar beacon. Stop programming your mind with thoughts about whether God exists or not - they're mental constructs that obscure the transrational 'organ of faith.' God is not known rationally, creation is known rationally. God is known by the Heart - not the muscle or the 'emotions,' or the Anahata Chakra. God is known in childlike simplicity, through inward focus, through the very will to Know, in the Sacred Heart - the Heart Cave - the very Center of our psychospiritual life. It is a doorway, it is The Way.

"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened." (Matthew 7:7) It is this simple. Or, in the words of the Bible AND 'BE HERE NOW,' page 1, "The Heart Cave - 'Except ye be converted and become as little children ye shall not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.' Unless you start again - become that trusting, open, surrendered being - the Energy can't come in. That is the Kingdom of Heaven. The Energy. It is the same thing - Cosmic Consciousness." It not only dwells in us, we dwell in it. The game is to Realize that.


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #1172326 - 12/26/02 05:39 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: trendal]
    #1229830 - 01/18/03 06:43 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an ans [Re: X.O]
    #1229834 - 01/18/03 06:44 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1229868 - 01/18/03 06:59 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1229877 - 01/18/03 07:04 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: GoBlue!]
    #1229879 - 01/18/03 07:06 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1229882 - 01/18/03 07:09 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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    #1229898 - 01/18/03 07:23 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1229933 - 01/18/03 07:42 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: jdm]
    #1229940 - 01/18/03 07:46 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

jdm: As for the "you can't prove god doesn't exist" crap statements, YOU CANNOT PROVE A NEGATIVE. Get it through your head. That is like saying "you can't prove that pink invisible dragons don't exist"

Yeah... we've argued this one before.
Sometimes people just don't understand such things... especially when it casts doubt on their pet beliefs.


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1229947 - 01/18/03 07:58 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: jdm]
    #1230074 - 01/18/03 09:58 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

jdm, although I feel you should try and keep your responses a bit more respectful and within one or two posts, I also think your arguments kick ass  :cool:


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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: jdm]
    #1230326 - 01/19/03 03:32 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

What Strumpling is referring to is our "Be Nice" policy which you may have or may not have read.  Please read it.  It will give you a better idea of the way we interact in this forum.

Welcome to SPS and the Shroomery! :smile:

Enjoy your stay!

Cheers

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Re: Don't believe in God?Shouldn't you have an answer? [Re: World Spirit]
    #1230569 - 01/19/03 06:15 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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If you don't believe in God Himself, shouldn't you have an answer you can die by?




To have an answer that you feel is sufficient to die by is bot arogant and foolish. I cannot proclaim to know near enough to answer such a question. Is there a God I guess I will find out when I die.


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