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    #12281450 - 03/27/10 06:45 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: New Identity [Re: Raw]
    #12281507 - 03/27/10 07:22 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Buy fake ID's / papers / birth certificates / passports

Destroy everything that can be traced back to you, withdraw and close all bank accounts

Go move somewhere else

You might be able to BS your way into a new bank account with documents

I dont know about getting real work, over here you would need a new NI number (something you can't just forge)




Or join the mafia, rat them out, free witness protection :crazy2:


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Re: New Identity [Re: Frinkz]
    #12286038 - 03/28/10 01:44 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

If the government was extending its helping hand it could be done no worries. For all of us normal non-spy losers though i think it would be nearly impossible to completely erase all evidence of your former life.

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Re: New Identity [Re: thomasbe]
    #12286364 - 03/28/10 06:13 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

You wouldn't need to erase evidence of your former life. Just get solid ID/docs for your new life.


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Re: New Identity [Re: efrog]
    #12286386 - 03/28/10 06:31 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Couldn't the old stuff help trace the new stuff... Photos, med records, etc...

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You wouldn't need to erase evidence of your former life. Just get solid ID/docs for your new life.



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Re: New Identity [Re: thomasbe]
    #12286396 - 03/28/10 06:41 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

You wouldn't need to erase evidence of your former life. Just get *solid* ID/docs for your new life.


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Re: New Identity [Re: efrog]
    #12316442 - 04/02/10 07:47 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

If youve ever been arrested and fingerprinted you probably dont have a chance

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Re: New Identity [Re: chet]
    #12317063 - 04/02/10 10:52 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Other than creating a new identity I think it would be easier to take over a recently deceased persons identity.. At least to get you to where you are going then trying to create one there

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Re: New Identity [Re: Raw]
    #12319634 - 04/02/10 06:40 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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How do people actually do this?

Is it possible to vanish and create a new life?




It's definitely possible. I have a guy who can get me a whole new identity complete with all the docs for a grand. I'm expecting to have to give him a call one of these days.


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Re: New Identity [Re: FractalDust]
    #12334482 - 04/05/10 10:25 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

If you have close friend or so in social-security register, you could get them to forge you new social-security code (example: mm/dd/yy-abc123)

Or if you know a good hacker, you could hire someone to brake into register database and add new person in there, your new forged identity.

You can even declare yourself dead to erase your past if you know someone in hospital well enough.


This could be efficient when doing bank fraud, get lots of loan and then after that they notice your dead. (or rat mafia like said before lol)


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Re: New Identity [Re: tattiritari]
    #12335114 - 04/05/10 12:10 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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tattiritari said:
If you have close friend or so in social-security register, you could get them to forge you new social-security code (example: mm/dd/yy-abc123)




in the US it's much more complicated, we have a system that is supposed
to curb the false identities from being generated, in order to
establish the account a state issued birth certificate has to be
presented in addition to other state or federal ID, and you cant get
the ID without the social security information, Our system is encoded,
the format ix XXX-XX-XXXX, it gives 3 digits which list the month and
year the card was applied for, the second two digits give the location
where the card was applied/issued and to ensure unique numbers for 300
million people, the numbers will change a little in the encoding

20 years ago it was still possible to obtain old birth certificates
of children that were deceased prior to obtaining any ID of their own,
today that's become almost impossible, once again, ID for that person
would have to have been issued prior to the request, these two are the
primary reason the illegal immigrants are simply making up numbers for
employment documents or buying the info of others to use, the federal
government recently passed laws making that form of identity theft a crime

as for fake passports, there's companies that produce them but they're
easily detected as fakes by most officials, finding a good forger is
damned near impossible, most states are also revamping their IDs to
make counterfeiting them more difficult, I just had mine reissued and
it now has 3 holographic images, one being my photo, 3 photos of me,
one being the hologram and now has raised lettering for a signature
which you dont see in the sample image the sate provides




most fake IDs are poor forgeries anyway, if you live in the state of issue there's no way it'll avoid detection, if it's from out of state, most cops are issued an ID book just as many bars have that has current an past state and federal IDs


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You can even declare yourself dead to erase your past if you know someone in hospital well enough.




all your suggestions seem to require having someone on the inside

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Re: New Identity [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12346594 - 04/07/10 01:31 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I've always wondered about this.  If I could I would.

Right now a judge agreed to expunge my record if I complete drug-treatment anytime in the next few years, and pay off my fines of course.

After that I was planning on changing my name (keep my first name) for various reasons.  I guess it costs about 500-600$ and it's not that hard to do.

But as for actually obtaining a new identity - I would think that it would be locked down extremely tight in the USA.  The DMV around here is worse then what I would have expected the mexican border to be like on the way back from Tijuana.  I had a friend who's mother took the pictures for the drivers licenses.. that's about as close to a "connect" as I'm gonna get.

And I'm sure professionals aren't real eager to advertise their business as falsifying a federal document is a felony.

I remember reading in the anarchist cookbook a long time ago that the dead-records (for birth certificates) were easiest to obtain through the public library.  Now most libraries work with the "winding rivers" system around here.  I didn't return some books, so that's out..

Heh. Without professional assistance I wouldn't even try it.

Anyone have any real experience or advice on this topic?

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Re: New Identity [Re: plurfekt]
    #12369091 - 04/10/10 07:23 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

The French Foreign Legion will give you a new identity.

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Re: New Identity [Re: Arkady]
    #12371098 - 04/11/10 01:58 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Huh?  Is that a joke or is it real? Name / ID / Passport

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The French Foreign Legion will give you a new identity.



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Re: New Identity [Re: Raw]
    #12378110 - 04/12/10 12:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Raw said:
Huh?  Is that a joke or is it real? Name / ID / Passport

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Arkady said:
The French Foreign Legion will give you a new identity.







No joke. They will give you French citizenship, and a new name, identity, etc. Of course, you have to serve 5 years in the FFL.

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Re: New Identity [Re: Arkady]
    #12380670 - 04/12/10 07:49 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

It is a get out of jail free card... but 5 years of service.

I think a lot of judges would give you military service instead of jail if you are a healthy young man.

If you don't do anything morally reprehensible at least.

Not bad.  I bet if more people knew about it a lot of people would find their way to France from all over to escape poverty as well...

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Re: New Identity [Re: Arkady]
    #12565604 - 05/15/10 01:48 AM (14 years, 7 days ago)

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Arkady said:
Quote:

Raw said:
Huh?  Is that a joke or is it real? Name / ID / Passport

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Arkady said:
The French Foreign Legion will give you a new identity.







No joke. They will give you French citizenship, and a new name, identity, etc. Of course, you have to serve 5 years in the FFL.




I actually looked into this one day while I was bored as fuck in my cubicle at work.

They used to accept people with no questions asked, but now they run your fingerprints thru Interpol before letting you in.

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Re: New Identity [Re: Raw]
    #12568108 - 05/15/10 04:18 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

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Raw said:
I think a lot of judges would give you military service instead of jail if you are a healthy young man.






they haven't done that except in a few rare instances in the last 35 years

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Re: New Identity [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #12568770 - 05/15/10 06:30 PM (14 years, 7 days ago)

2 of my friends went that route.  Were not about to snitch and were not about to go to jail for a long time.  One marine, one navy enlistment.

They were both thin, healthy, tall, and white.

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Re: New Identity [Re: Raw]
    #12576881 - 05/17/10 12:58 AM (14 years, 5 days ago)

All services have regulations against people joining the military to avoid jail time. I'm raising the BS flag.

BTW what do their physical characteristics and ethnicity have to do with it?

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