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InvisibleThe_Clash_UK
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Some Thoughts
    #1228092 - 01/18/03 05:53 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

This, what we call reality, is an illusion created by our egos.
What is the purpose of this then? why do we need the truth disguised?
Ive been wondering whether it is like the mind during sleep. The consious mind can not completely shut down so it dream to keepitself ticking over. Maybe this is just like the purpose of a dream.

why do so many think this is the illusion?
maybe this is real, and the so called enlightened state is actualy the illusion. maybe they are both illusions, maybe they are both real?

anyways


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Edited by The_Clash_UK (01/18/03 06:06 AM)


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Re: Some Thoughts [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #1228098 - 01/18/03 06:00 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

"This was we call reality is an illusion created by our egos."

This presupposition has no evidence philosophically or empirically.  But carry on.

I enjoy reading the replies. :smile:

Cheers


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InvisibleThe_Clash_UK
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Re: Some Thoughts [Re: ]
    #1228104 - 01/18/03 06:05 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

this WHAT. oops, ill just edit it


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Re: Some Thoughts [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #1228125 - 01/18/03 06:26 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

maybe this is real, and the so called enlightened state is actualy the illusion. maybe they are both illusions, maybe they are both real?

Enlightenment, if I understand it correctly, is considered the ultimate reality for purely pragmatic reasons. It is not the ultimate reality in that weird scientific sense. In that sense, yes, all modes of perception, whether enlightened or not, are both real and an illusion. But enlightenment, a state of full awareness and full non-attachment, is the superior state of mind, as it overcomes suffering and helps you getting things done. Therefore, it is referred to as the ultimate truth. Because it works.


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Re: Some Thoughts [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #1230461 - 01/19/03 07:28 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

The Ego does create a myriad of illusions.. but reality isn't one of them... that's why they call it reality. The ego doesn't create reality, it prevents you from seeing it. The Truth is disguised by our egos. Grasping, wanting, selfishness... that is the illusion and source of suffering.


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Re: Some Thoughts [Re: ]
    #1230481 - 01/19/03 07:38 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

hey man, youve enligthenmed me a little there.
cheers :cool:


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