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Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms.
#12277257 - 03/26/10 02:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was wondering if it would even be possible and to just to get input on what everyone thinks of the idea but what if or can you cross a bioluminescent mushroom with a psilocybin to have glow in the dark hallucinogenic mushrooms? I think if you did this you'd end up with a pretty badass fungus haha.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: just chillin]
#12277376 - 03/26/10 02:33 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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NO U CAN'T TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SPECIES
USE COMMON HIGHSCHOOL BIOLOGY KNOWLEDGE
MOST BIOLUMINESCENTS ARE INEDIBLE ANYWAYS
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: fordrew]
#12277378 - 03/26/10 02:33 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: fordrew]
#12277723 - 03/26/10 03:26 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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fordrew said: NO U CAN'T TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SPECIES
USE COMMON HIGHSCHOOL BIOLOGY KNOWLEDGE
MOST BIOLUMINESCENTS ARE INEDIBLE ANYWAYS
Kill the caps and at least be accurate. Mushroom species have been crossed before. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before someone pulls it off. RR
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#12277958 - 03/26/10 04:07 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's possible, but not to cross breed them. This would just result in an F1 with undesireable traits. It's just like growing pot, you would need to cross SO MANY F1s with your F2s and so on before obtaining a cube with the desireable traits. White widow for example could be crossed with an autoflowering strain like lowryder, but that doesn't mean the F1 will be a short autoflowering plant with trichomes all over it. It's not that simple.
I believe your best bet would be to invest in a laboratory with the equipment neccassary for gene-splicing so that you don't have to cross breed.
Do not do this because splicers are notoriously violent and crave ADAM
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: bros773]
#12278610 - 03/26/10 06:02 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wouldn't it be amazing if someone with access to the tools for altering things on a DNA level got into the mushroom community.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: bros773]
#12278614 - 03/26/10 06:03 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mushrooms are not plants and have no similar relationship. Mushroom species are crossed for desirable traits by commercial growers such as aloha medicinals. Don't assume you'll get F1, F2, etc., with behaviors just like pot. Mushrooms are as different from plants as we are. RR
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: RogerRabbit]
#12278676 - 03/26/10 06:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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You're right that was a bad comparison haha mushrooms to pot
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: just chillin]
#12285346 - 03/27/10 09:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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what if or can you cross a bioluminescent mushroom with a psilocybin to have glow in the dark hallucinogenic mushrooms?
You might have better luck inserting the genes using a bacteria like E. coli.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#12286933 - 03/28/10 10:07 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Talk to Monsanto, they are good at this type of thing.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#12289570 - 03/28/10 08:24 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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what if or can you cross a bioluminescent mushroom with a psilocybin to have glow in the dark hallucinogenic mushrooms?
You might have better luck inserting the genes using a bacteria like E. coli.
yeah saying its impossible is fairly ignorant, with the advent of better gene implementation technologies its only a matter of time before we have glowing psilocybes, and ones that bruise pink, who knows the possibilities are endless.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: snoot]
#12289623 - 03/28/10 08:35 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yay, glow in the dark shrooms that will be easily seen in the dark by cops
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: Moronicus]
#12289641 - 03/28/10 08:40 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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i had a friend from peru once who was an exchange student who swore there were actives at the jungle edge in the peruvian mountains that glowed.
he said they only glowed for a short time, less than half an hour after sunset, and were indistinguishable from many others in daylight. so the pick time was a narrow window, and one needed to take the local natives along to be sure.
sure, it was a bong circle story, but he wasn't usually known as a bullshitter.
any chance he was telling the truth?
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: laotzo]
#12289862 - 03/28/10 09:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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laotzo said: i had a friend from peru once who was an exchange student who swore there were actives at the jungle edge in the peruvian mountains that glowed.
he said they only glowed for a short time, less than half an hour after sunset, and were indistinguishable from many others in daylight. so the pick time was a narrow window, and one needed to take the local natives along to be sure.
sure, it was a bong circle story, but he wasn't usually known as a bullshitter.
any chance he was telling the truth?
since he was a foreign exchange student, i have a feeling there was a lot of miscommunication
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: Moronicus]
#12289886 - 03/28/10 09:29 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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nah excellent english, a med student actually.
either he was making it up to fuck with me or telling me what he thought was the truth, i think.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: laotzo]
#12290032 - 03/28/10 10:03 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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who knows, theres alot of uncharted species out there, especially in a place as diverse as peru, maybe they weren't psilocybe's but who knows they may have been something else completely new. Its a big world and we know far to little to make such accusations, sure we can speculate all day long, but to say something as a fact is kinda silly.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: snoot]
#12291948 - 03/29/10 10:20 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I really wanna see this done
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: laotzo]
#12296849 - 03/30/10 01:28 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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any chance he was telling the truth?
Unlikely.
The glowing mushrooms could be Mycena sp., but they are somewhat toxic and not active. Sometimes people eat them and get a tiny bit poisoned and mistake it for a buzz, but with a larger dose the difference would be obvious.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#12297233 - 03/30/10 04:04 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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any chance he was telling the truth?
Unlikely.
The glowing mushrooms could be Mycena sp., but they are somewhat toxic and not active. Sometimes people eat them and get a tiny bit poisoned and mistake it for a buzz, but with a larger dose the difference would be obvious.
yeah that sounds more likely.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: snoot]
#12297813 - 03/30/10 08:36 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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since he said you had to have the indians guide you and help you collect and dose, most likely they know the difference between messed up and dead, just like most alcoholics here in the west.
thanks alan, that has always intrigued me.
by the way, ya'll do know that there is a jellyfish protein that they have engineered into a wide spectrum of organisms or even just parts of cells to highlight what is going on. . .it glows this amazing green. it is how they made that green glowing transgenic pig a few years back..
http://www.damninteresting.com/2006/01

could this work for shrooms? i am totally an amateur as far as how fungi differ or are the same as the other major life groups like plants and animals...
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: laotzo]
#12297897 - 03/30/10 08:53 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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The technology to make a mushroom glow in the dark is definately available... the easiest way to achieve it would be genetic modification (which is surprisingly easy - for a scientist), by inserting the gene for a luminescent protein like firefly luciferase. The question would then be: is it safe to eat... the glowing chemical might be toxic.
And i'm not just talking out my ass... i have a science degree (majoring in biotechnology)
P.S. It would be awsome to see it done  
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: TimmiT]
#12310913 - 04/01/10 09:34 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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GFP is just another protein, it's non-toxic and as easily metabolizable as any other protein. I also haven't heard of anyone claiming firefly luciferase is toxic either.
It wouldn't be hard to make GFP mushrooms. But I think it would be kind of silly to create a major public scare and the following government crackdown on shrooms and biohackers for something as silly as making glowing mushrooms.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: fastfred]
#12310982 - 04/01/10 09:54 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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pretty sure they made some transgenic glowing mice too, not sure of the scientific value of such mice I suppose it furthers our knowledge of genetic engineering but nocternal predators such as owls would surely have a field day. glowing mushrooms would be cool though especialy if a few outdoor beds were cultivated at the site of an upcoming rave-crazy living decorations that get you high!
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: ssv]
#12316511 - 04/02/10 08:13 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Mycena lux-coeli mushrooms - It looks like there are already mushrooms that produce luciferin!
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: TimmiT]
#12316997 - 04/02/10 10:40 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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How would it be a major public scare thats ridiculous?
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: just chillin]
#12317253 - 04/02/10 11:35 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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ssv said: glowing mushrooms would be cool though especialy if a few outdoor beds were cultivated at the site of an upcoming rave-crazy living decorations that get you high!
Even if you didn't have glowing mushrooms at a rave, I'm sure having living decorations that get you high would an equally hot commodity.

It's good to be back here =)
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: just chillin] 1
#12317384 - 04/02/10 12:00 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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just chillin said: How would it be a major public scare thats ridiculous?
News Update!
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Drug dealing bioterrorists create new super drug... - Today the DEA reported that biohackers suspected to be involved in bioterrorism have created a new kind of super shroom. Using highly dangerous genetic engineering techniques they have inserted foreign mystery DNA into the dangerous Psilo shroom mushroom. This musrhoom is already highly illegal and known to be a dangerous mind-altering drug, now it may be even more deadly. Sources say that this mushroom is so potent and dangerous that it even glows in the dark! DEA sources would not comment on weather this new drug is more addictive or if it poses a threat to the environment, however they did say that the glowing mushroom was designed to entice innocent young children into using the mind-altering drug. For the sake of the children the DEA has mounted a massive, multi-jurisdictional, multi-agency, military assisted investigation into these bioterrorists. They announced that just today over 200 homes of suspected mushroom-involved dealers were raided in a massive effort called "operation savechild". Some of these homes were even within 1,000 yards of a school! The DEA warns the public to be on the lookout for these new mushrooms and to report any information to 1-800-IMA-NARC immediately.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: fastfred]
#12317512 - 04/02/10 12:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if I actually red that in major news site...
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: Simms]
#12317651 - 04/02/10 12:39 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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GFP shouldnt glow on its own anyway. its fluorescent. it would need some input such as UV or something.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: caricapapaya]
#12318105 - 04/02/10 02:08 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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bioluminescent psilocybe, my life would be complete
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: crzyn8]
#12320600 - 04/02/10 10:00 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thats unrealistic and even if I dont think it makes any difference if they found them your still in the same situation glow in the dark or not and if it was in a country with legal psilocybin they wouldn't do anything.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: just chillin]
#12323783 - 04/03/10 01:42 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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> Thats unrealistic
I take it you don't read the news much.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: fastfred]
#12324630 - 04/03/10 04:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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You red it on the first of April?
At first I thought you wrote it.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: Simms]
#12338707 - 04/05/10 09:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Some people are already crossing things like this in their garage, like yogurt that glows from jellyfish proteins.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: fastfred]
#12338916 - 04/05/10 10:10 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Too bad for the DEA there's still that whole "Cubensis spores are legal in 47 states" factor. Major public scare? If anything it would just generate more interest in fungi but most people would laugh and move on. If the DEA starts spazzing about glowing shrooms they may inadvertently create a Barbara Streisand effect. How does the fact that they glow make them anymore dangerous to the people who consider them to already be extremely dangerous drugs? I dont see the police working harder on one acid bust over another just because the blotter print is different/cooler/trippier.
I disagree with your opinion that there's any correlation between a mushroom with a genetically inserted trait that consequently draws attention to itself being responsible for an increase in law enforcement attention in the shroomery past where its already at. Especially when you try to wedge hypothetical fear responses into an argument that underestimates the seriousness with which the LEO community approaches this "problem" of drug "abuse". If tommorrow someone developed a strain that bruised in the shape of jesus "tap dancing" christ it would at best get a "slow news day" article. There are much bigger fish to fry if the LEO's want to "win" this drug war, and thats where you'll find their attention.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: Professor Frink]
#12340602 - 04/06/10 05:22 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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The fact is that it would be he first genetically engineered drug. That would certainly generate some news stories and the DEA would have to answer how they're going to deal with the "problem".
Every time there's been a story on colored or candy flavored meth or crack the DEA has gone crazy. Many states now have ridiculous laws doubling the punishments for such things.
And that's just a good example of how something completely stupid and rare has generated a lot of heat for no reason. Add in the genetic engineering factor and you're pretty foolish if you think a story like the one I wrote isn't possible or even pretty likely.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: fordrew]
#12340861 - 04/06/10 08:01 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I used to eat "Sulfur Tufts". They're pretty cool in a black light, but I guess they don't glow like "Jack O Lantern Fungus".
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: BelovedLaughter]
#12351645 - 04/07/10 08:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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well if they only glowed in black light, then they would be stealthy glow shrooms, that would only reveal themselves in odd enviroments like UV decontamination chambers and raves. *ahem*
sounds fairly innocuous. ppl are about as likely to carry a UV pocket light as be mycologist enough to ID a active shroom if it isn't in a baggie.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: laotzo]
#12352329 - 04/07/10 11:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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They do look pretty crazy though, even on their own. Their spore print is neon purple, and the mushrooms themselves are neon yellow with tinges of blue and green.
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: BelovedLaughter]
#12355978 - 04/08/10 03:27 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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pics?
they sound lovely.
i believe you, it's not that.
i just want pics !
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Re: Crossing psilocybe with bioluminescent mushrooms. [Re: laotzo]
#12356246 - 04/08/10 04:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't have any, and I can't find any that resemble the many specimans I've picked.
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