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Vendors and Prohibition
    #1227469 - 01/17/03 08:05 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I would like to know which vendors support comprehensive drug law reform and the end of prohibition and which ones support drug law reform for only the substances they consider "mind expanding". You know, which vendors are drug bigots who support the genocide against our people and which ones aren't. It is important for us to know what kind of vendor we are doing business with in this respect.

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1227976 - 01/18/03 03:18 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1228310 - 01/18/03 08:23 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Your not gonna get any responces to this i dont think. Would be interesting to see tho. Magical Mushrooms and Marijuana should be legal in my opinion(Im not a vendor tho)


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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: boxtop703]
    #1228727 - 01/18/03 11:47 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Boxtop

Thank you for responding. You are one of the vendors I had in mind when originating this post due to comments you made in the other forums. For some reason I thought you were a prohib lite. Like I said before, a vendor's politics on this subject matter to me.

How about you, cap (Max)? (Does he still post here?) And you too Ralph and Workman?

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1229537 - 01/18/03 06:18 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Captain Max no longer posts here.

Interesting concept - I understand why you're asking the vendors (I think), but I think it makes an interesting question for drug users in general (but for the general question, I guess the Politics or Other Drugs forum would make the most sense).


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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1229805 - 01/18/03 08:22 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: em_bre_O]
    #1229883 - 01/18/03 09:09 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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I am not a vendor either but, I surely agree with u.But only those 2 drugs.BTW I don't eat mushies or smoke weed anymore and still think it should be that way.




I don't agree at all.
It's not up to the gov't to pick and choose which drugs they feel should be legal and not. In fact, that what they've done right now. There are countless drugs that are EXTREMELY powerful and/or addicting; alcohol, tobacco, codeine derivatives, benzodiazapines, hell, there are a lot of psychedelic botanicals they haven't gotten around to making illegal yet. Why would anyone think they are the ones who should decide what should be legal and what shouldn't? We gave our gov't the power to do that, and what have they done? Made marijuana illegal, a relatively benign drug. Demand for substances will always be there. As long as there is demand, there will ALWAYS, ALWAYS be a supply to meet it. A war against any drug will never change this, only cause more problems, overcrowd the judicial system, waste police resources, comprimise people's liberty, and create one of largest criminal enterprises that exists. All drugs must be legal. Illegalizing any substance does not solve the roots of the problem, and never will.


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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1230423 - 01/19/03 07:07 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: MicronMagick]
    #1230758 - 01/19/03 09:52 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks to the vendors who have responded so far. Truly. No ulterior motives on my part for this thread, valour. It's just like I stated. It matters to me how vendors stand on this issue. I agree that there are more appropriate threads for the overall discussion of prohibition.

It is my opinion that prohibition drug policies as they pertain to ALL drugs cause more harm than good and I'll leave it at that.

So far, The Little Guy (boxtop) is the only comprehensive reformer here and the rest are all prohib lites?

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    #1230766 - 01/19/03 09:55 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: boxtop703]
    #1230860 - 01/19/03 10:47 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Boxtop

>"Having stated my position I should also add that doing hard drugs is stupid."

While I appreciate your stand against prohibition, I don't appreciate your demonization of the users of other drugs. How would you classify the users of hard drugs such as alcohol and tobacco?

>"...we should do everything we can to steer kids (and friends and loved ones) clear of that type of abuse."

I agree that education and treatment are effective harm reduction policies.

>"Pro legalization does not mean condonation."

Of course not. Do not let the prohibitionists make you feel defensive about your position. Legalization means control and regulation. By supporting prohibition, society gives up on the control and regulation of these substances and turns those functions over to the black market which is more often then not comprised of criminal predators.

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: MicronMagick]
    #1232634 - 01/20/03 02:47 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

MicronMagik

You support the continued prohibition of cocaine, heroin, meth, etc., correct? Did I read you wrong? That would certainly place you in the category of being a prohib lite and in support of the ongoing genocide of sizeable a portion of our population.

What do I do in support of reform? Well, this thread is not about me and I hate to take it down that road for fear of being determined to be off topic by the powers that be and having my thread shut down. I'll state that I am very active in reform and I am a member of LEAP and I'll leave it at that.

http://www.leap.cc/

Again, this thread is an effort to determine which vendors support the (drug) war on our people and which do not. I care about who my hard earned money supports.

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: MicronMagick]
    #1232812 - 01/20/03 05:31 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

prohib lite refers to the belief that only some drugs should be legal. it is an opinion between no prohibition and complete prohibition. as we see with alcohol and tobacco, no prohibition does not mean no control. actually the reverse is true: prohibition means no control.

imho, prohib lite is a stance that is illogical, scientifically unsound, and in the end unworkable. it is what we already have today.


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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: MicronMagick]
    #1233791 - 01/20/03 11:52 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you for your clarification, MicronMagick. I'm delighted that we can place you in the same category as boxtop as being against the prohibition of all drugs and in support of the control and regulation of these substances.

Lets make it clear to all reading this thread that we DO NOT support criminal acts performed under the influence of any of these substances including the driving of vehicles or the commission of other crimes. Nor do we support the providing of these substances to children. Legalization means control and regulation. Prohibition is when society gives up and turns over control and regulation to the criminal element that generally doesn't care about the age or mental status of their customers and are often willing to overlook matters concerning the purity and dosage of their product.

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Legalize and informize [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1233798 - 01/20/03 11:55 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

High,

Here a short message from Holland :laugh: No vendor, but like to add my opinion too.

Decriminilise all drugs. Give them a legal status.
In Holland we have a kind of okee rules. No weed and shrooms below 18 years.
Possibilties to check your xtc, ghb etc for saver use. Quality info and free available at places were possible use may occur.

It is not the use of drugs that kills people, only the mis-use seems to take her victims. However exceptions are always around .

Legalising will paralize a lot of mobster-activity, what will be there next step in mobing.

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1233918 - 01/20/03 12:24 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1234159 - 01/20/03 01:57 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Thank you for your clarification, MicronMagick.  I'm delighted that we can place you in the same category as boxtop...




hehe!!  i bet MM loves that one :wink:

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: boxtop703]
    #1234363 - 01/20/03 03:45 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Boxtop

I am not trying to speak for anyone. I'm clarifying your position. If you don't agree with any portion of what I've perceived to be your position on prohibition, please specify.

>"Don't use that opinion to make judgement about how or how I don't feel about other issues or don't use my opinion to strengthen any crusade you may have going on."<

What OTHER issues are you talking about? I am talking about DRUG PROHIBITION. The CRUSADE you speak of is the end of the (drug) war on our people. Are you on the bus or off the bus? Wishy washy isn't going to cut it, brother.

>"I hate being lumped together with any group, thought, or idea. "<

Is the ending of this war on our people not a worthy cause with which to be lumped?

>"I explained where I stood on one issue, please leave it at that. "<

I thought that was what I was doing.

Ralphster

Shall we lump you into the prohib lite camp or have you re-thought your position?

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1236036 - 01/21/03 09:45 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I really hate to get in this and will not respond or post any more to this thread, especially since I'm no vendor. leafblower, I understand your concern over where your $$ is going. i don't understand your US vs. THEM attitude where anyone who doesn't fit a strict defnition of your US is immediately labled THEM. It is not about US and THEM. It is about YOU, the individual. Now, you've got the answers to the questions you've asked. Why not stop trying to browbeat your belief structure on the rest of the community. Be a real man/woman and go find your own damn shrooms to print and you avoid having to send some "prohib lite" your money. Hell $$ is part of THEM so why don't you just send that to me :smile:. For the record I believe that prohibition has a negative impact on our society and is one of the leading causes of suffering around the globe. I feel that people need to understand that drug problems are medical/mental problems and not crimes but there are definitely drug-crimes (driving high, contributing to delinquency, etc.) I think the current laws concerning alcohol are an excellent model to use for all drugs. I feel that we need far less laws and stricter punishments for the few laws that would be left. I also understand why other people may feel differently. I do not understand why it is not my right to do something which does not infringe on anyone else's rights since I am given that right in my Constitution (that whole pursuit of happiness thing). I am well spoken and have changed many people's views on drug law without badgering the hell out of them over it. I think you might have a more positive and noticable effect towards the goals you say you support if you simply state how you feel and why you feel that way instead of negatively labeling those who don't feel the way you do. It makes you appear just as closed minded as THEY are.


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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: ralphster44]
    #1236090 - 01/21/03 09:59 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Ralph, I'm a middle aged retired police officer. I've seen it all, brother. Since this thread ain't about me, I'll simply state that prohibition is causing more harm than any and all of the currently prohibited substances put together. Education and treatment are the answers, not imprisonment and death.

I guess we can place you firmly in the PROHIB LITE camp.

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1236155 - 01/21/03 10:16 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

I guess I'm sort of in the lite camp as well, however I don't think making heroin, cocaine, etc illegal is working.

What we should really consider is how if we legalized all drugs that we make sure heroin is not sold in 7-11 and that people addicted to heroin can get it safely under a doctors supervision etc...

Its a complex issue with harder drugs, but I do agree that putting users in prison is a horribly bad thing. I however at this point in life can't feel comfortable knowing anyone 18yrs or older can pick up heroin or cocaine at their local 'drug store'..

But treat weed totally like alcohol, I have no problem with that.

My question is to those who fully support making all drugs legal is how to you regulate heroin? crack cocaine? meth? Do you sell them in a store? What is the age limit? etc...


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    #1236186 - 01/21/03 10:30 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Debian

>"i don't understand your US vs. THEM attitude where anyone who doesn't fit a strict defnition of your US is immediately labled THEM."

It is pretty simple. Whether you consider it a strict definition or not, the THEM want to put US in prison and/or take away our jobs, families, freedom, and lives for using substances which they do not approve.

As I've said, I do not wish to support those vendors who support the genocide.

Let's try to stick with the poll and I'll try to minimize my personal feelings towards prohibition. All vendors are welcome to explain their position and I encourage all participants to feel free to ask the vendors for clarification.

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: Thor]
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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1237845 - 01/21/03 07:20 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Im really not replying to anyone, but MJ is illegal right now and remains illegal for one reason: OIL. Oil companies pay(ed) off our govt. to keep MJ illegal so that we will have a reason to keep MJ's cousin, hemp, illegal. Because, as all of you probably know, Hemp can be used to make an alternative to the oil that these big businesses make money on. It's as simple as that. The govt. doesnt care about personal safety from one's self, MJ isn't a public hazard. Money is the big issue here. Hemp is finally legal in Canada but MJ remains illegal because of the bullying of the big US. I thank God that Canada has finally seen the truth, and perhaps the corruption of the US wont hinder their climbing sucess torwards legalization of the spirit plant marijuana. The govt. payoff must be more than the potential taxes that commercial marijuana could bring in. If there was no payoff, or the potential taxes surpassed the payoff, there would be no marijuana prohibition in America. As far as the other psychedelics such as the psychedelic mushroom, im not sure why they are prohibited. Except for the thought that these old farts running the country have never actually tried it, and at the meer mention of the word "hallucenogen"
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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: Thor]
    #1238995 - 01/22/03 09:13 AM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Thor and MicronMagik

I'm not sure where you two get the notion that legalization means the shit is going to be sold from gumball machines.

Legalization means control and regulation particularly of the distribution of these substances. Thor, you might not feel comfortable knowing anyone 18yrs or older can pick up heroin or cocaine at their local 'drug store', but I'm curious if you are even more uncomfortable with anyone REGARDLESS OF THEIR AGE OR MENTAL STATUS obtaining these substances on a street corner in units of unknown purity and dosage at inflated prices benefiting criminal predators?

I didn't start this thread as a debate on prohibition. My desire is to determine what kind of positions the vendors at the shroomery have regarding drug prohibition.

Frankly MicronMagik, I'm not sure where you stand at this point. Are you saying that you would not support the governmentally controlled sales of certain substances but you would support the trade in these substances when not involving currency?

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: ralphster44]
    #1239829 - 01/22/03 01:46 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

actually ralph, stupidly enough a pot driving death was a major factor in the legalization being stiffled in vegas. There was some reporter killed by some kid that was high, I don't have the links, but it was very close to voting time, and in my honest opinion, was probably pre-meditated in some way.


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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: MicronMagick]
    #1240849 - 01/22/03 07:45 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

MicronMagik

It isn't a matter of falling within "my categories". You either support the arrest and incarceration of individuals and/or groups for using and/or possessing these substances or you don't. Where did I state that I was "pro-phamie and pro-taxes"? Is that what you think control and regulation is about? It certainly doesn't have to be and I certainly didn't say that it should. It would appear to me that you are just trying to be disagreeable. You certainly are on the bus even if you sit pouting in the back row with your arms crossed. :3)

By the way, do you see the sell of all pharmaceuticals including the myriad of substances currently prescribed by doctors for various reasons as also being unlawful under your vision for the future?

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: MicronMagick]
    #1240865 - 01/22/03 07:52 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

MicronMagik

Also, would the giving away or trading of drugs to juveniles be unlawful under the system you envision or do you see that as a governmental attempt to, how did you put it, "try to be people's morals"?

Or do you feel that there shouldn't be any restrictions on juvenile access to these substances?

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: em_bre_O]
    #1240909 - 01/22/03 08:05 PM (18 years, 10 months ago)

Em bre 0

I understand why some find it distasteful to interact with a retired police officer. The enforcement of unjust and evil laws and the complicity with genocidal policies against a sizeable portion of our population as the result of such enforcement certainly breeds such contempt, very reasonably so, by the victims of such actions.

I'm not interested in trading in spore prints anyway.

I would be very interested in hearing from a representative of sporeworks regarding the issue of drug prohibition.

Leaf


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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: Thor]
    #1252890 - 01/27/03 11:20 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Thor

So, do I understand correctly that you, along with Ralph, support the continuing apprehension, persecution and incarceration of the users of all currently illicit substances with the exception of a few hallucinogens?

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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: psilocyber]
    #1255638 - 01/28/03 01:56 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Well, what can I say but...

Psilocyber rocks!

Leaf


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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: psilocyber]
    #1256402 - 01/28/03 06:22 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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2. I'm for the taxation of state controlled narcotics, but ONLY for the funding of treatment/support centers AND education. Drug money doesn't fund terrorism, but drug taxes should fix up our schools and help pay our teachers a decent wage.

3. If all narcotics are legalized, and taxed by the state then we (the populus) should support treatment also being supported by this tax money. I'm for detox centers, drug rehabilitation, AND clinics for those who want to rid themselves of addictions that might be formed by purchasing state sold narcotics.
Decriminalize, tax, provide a support/treatment mechanism, and use the remainder to pay our teachers!






Hell yeah
I wanted to teach art but then I grew up and found out how much art teachers make.
I can actually airbrush 2 cars and make what a teacher makes all month.

Thats sad these people are there to teach our children.
Some schools don't even have but 1 or 2 pc's if that.
old building getting 100 degrees in the summer and freezing in the winter.
u got bible thumpers bitching about drugs and gambling but yet these 2 things could make such a diff in our kids lives.


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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1259059 - 01/29/03 02:54 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Thor

So, do I understand correctly that you, along with Ralph, support the continuing apprehension, persecution and incarceration of the users of all currently illicit substances with the exception of a few hallucinogens?

Leaf




No, I dont agree with that either. I am not an expert on the issue but I have to choose legalization over how it is today.

I am however concerned of the after affects of legalizing everything.

If a good system is set up like psilocyber said then I can feel more comfortable with it.

I'm not going to apologize for feeling aprehension for what would be the after affects of legalization; because I do care.

You want to call it ironic or whatever name calling you'd like to do; but I can't help feeling concerned about what will happen if harder drugs are sold legally.

It is better than having them illegal, but I wonder if there isn't some better way.

Sorry if this bothers you, but simply legalizing everything is not a good enough answer for me. I want to know what people propose on how to handle the harder drugs and their distribution..


Edited by Thor (01/29/03 02:59 PM)


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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: Thor]
    #1259684 - 01/29/03 06:20 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Thor

I'm not asking you to apologize for anything. Nor am I trying to play some sort of "name calling" game.

If I seem at all bothered, it is because I am somewhat intolerant of the wishy washy responses I've been getting in this thread. Your responses to my questions on the subject of prohibition would not only indicate that you are not an expert on the issue, as you stated, but that you have also not given the subject much thought. For a person who maintains a site such as the shroomery, I find that very unfortunate. You're in a position to do a lot of good for the movement.

I certainly hope that your comment that simple legalization is not enough for you doesn't mean that you support the continuation of prohibition in the interim. It is important that I mention that nowhere have I suggested that we shouldn't be concerned with the details regarding the control and regulation of these substances upon legalization. If you're put off by my approach, get use to it. In the face of this ongoing genocide called the war on drugs, many of us are becoming impatient with the fence sitters. And our numbers are growing. Don't expect us to smile and grin as you tacitly support the persecution of our people by refusing to take a stand.

Leaf


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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1259728 - 01/29/03 06:35 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm not asking you to apologize for anything. Nor am I trying to play some sort of "name calling" game.



Good, but your comment in OTD certainly gave me that impression:

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Quote by leafblowerz... Thor is a prohib lite. Prohib lites tend to be drug bigots. Haven't you figured that out yet? Hell about half of the fucking people who post here at the shroomery are prohib lites. Oh the irony!




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If I seem at all bothered, it is because I am somewhat intolerant of the wishy washy responses I've been getting in this thread. Your responses to my questions on the subject of prohibition would not only indicate that you are not an expert on the issue, as you stated, but that you have also not given the subject much thought. For a person who maintains a site such as the shroomery, I find that very unfortunate. You're in a position to do a lot of good for the movement.



Do you think being intolerant to people who may not share your views will help you promote legalization if you just make people mad?

I'm in a position to do what I can, believe me my life has been given to this website these last few years and I dont know what you've done for the drug community; but I certainly feel like I've done my share.

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I certainly hope that your comment that simple legalization is not enough for you doesn't mean that you support the continuation of prohibition in the interim.



I've repeated this a few times, I don't agree with the situation as is, and I support legalization with concrete plans on how to deal with the distribution of harder more dangerous drugs with rehabilitation being a big part of that.

So what I feel is that drugs like weed can be sold in liquor stores, 7-11, etc.. But heroin would have different distribution...

I've not heard how most people feel such drugs would be distributed and regulated.. How can I not be concerned with legalization if those issues aren't clear.

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In the face of this ongoing genocide called the war on drugs, many of us are becoming impatient with the fence sitters. And our numbers are growing. Don't expect us to smile and grin as you tacitly support the persecution of our people by refusing to take a stand.



So your tactic is to piss off those you'd like to get on your side? You think that helps the situation or just makes it worse?

Just because I'm not as enthusiastic as yourself doesn't make me a drug bigot. You certainly shouldn't judge people so harshly for being concerned about issues that legalization brings. I'd obviously support legalization, but I would want more thought put into it than just lets legalize all drugs and sell them at the local store.

Not that this should matter, I don't see it happening in the US in my lifetime.. Its a huge uphill battle in any country, but the US is probably the least likely country to ever approach drugs with intelligence instead of fear and percecution.



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Re: Vendors and Prohibition [Re: leafblowerz]
    #1259751 - 01/29/03 06:42 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Your a jack ass!
I shouldn't have let this crap go on this long.
Where do you get off telling anyone what their position should or shouldn't be.
Your entitled to your opinion just as much as the next guy is his.

Your lucky you got the responses that you did.
I thank the Vendors for putting up with your stupid shit!

Do you challenge the gas stations, grocery stores, dept. stores, restaurants that you frequent?
Do you ask them if they are pro drugs?

I have read alot of your posts here at the shroomery.
You are a shit stirrer...a problem child.
You love to put people down and you probably think your better than them.
But your not...you need to have a level 5 mushroom trip and lose that fucking ego!

I'm closing this thread.
You have made us all dumber... for having to read it.



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You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


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PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.



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