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insipidtoast
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Tyvek - Finding the injection holes
#12257731 - 03/23/10 07:23 PM (14 years, 9 days ago) |
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In some of the pint jars four small holes were poked into the lids. Wild bird seed will be used as the spawn, and the tyvek is supposed to go on after the lid. That is:
1-lid 2-tyvek 3-Ring
This seems to me like shooting in the dark with the needle trying to find those small holes underneath the tyvek. Is it ok to change the order and put the lid on after the tyvek?
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: insipidtoast]
#12258146 - 03/23/10 08:45 PM (14 years, 9 days ago) |
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That would work fine.
It is not important to have the lid seal to the glass. Many people invert the lids to prevent them from sealing anyway.
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: Premedman1]
#12258269 - 03/23/10 09:06 PM (14 years, 9 days ago) |
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you put the tyvek over the lid so that when you shake the jars moisture does not get on the tyvek which will cause contams. i prefer the self-healing inoculation ports to tyvek anyway. you can just go to an auto parts store and get RTV silcone gel. its nice stuff.
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: Bom_Tombadil]
#12258304 - 03/23/10 09:11 PM (14 years, 9 days ago) |
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The way I do it is shine a light through the space from your lid to wbs up towards the lid and you will see the light come out through the hole. Mark the tyvek where the light escapes from.
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: Ganjabonga]
#12258379 - 03/23/10 09:24 PM (14 years, 9 days ago) |
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find your holes before you tighten down the ring then mark them with a sharipe, now you know where your holes are
just dont tighten too much or your tyvek could slip
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: insipidtoast]
#12258429 - 03/23/10 09:31 PM (14 years, 9 days ago) |
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I just use two square pieces of tyvek and the ring, I discard the lids.
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: kechlesurf]
#12259065 - 03/23/10 10:52 PM (14 years, 9 days ago) |
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kechlesurf, did you read the post above by Bom Tombadil. Do you refute that that is what happens?
Ganjabonga, how on earth do you shine a lite through a jar full of moisturized WBS? From the side? Sounds pretty complicated.
Bom, Is that silicone gel breathable though?
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: insipidtoast]
#12259304 - 03/23/10 11:34 PM (14 years, 9 days ago) |
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: Bom_Tombadil]
#12259334 - 03/23/10 11:38 PM (14 years, 9 days ago) |
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If what I said is complicated... Shining a light through your jar is hard how? Obviously your jar is not completely full. Shine the light through, and if you have a hole punched, some of the light will come through that hole. Complicated how?
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: Ganjabonga]
#12261287 - 03/24/10 09:34 AM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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Complicated because I didn't visualize what you meant. Yes, shining it through the side is what you meant. That's actually a good idea (assuming it works). Will a maglite shine through two sheets of tyvek?
I suppose I can make the needle holes a bit bigger too. They are more or less needle size right now.
Edited by insipidtoast (03/24/10 09:35 AM)
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: insipidtoast]
#12261320 - 03/24/10 09:41 AM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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Put your lid on upside down so you can feel where the holes are after you put the tyvek and ring on. I can't remember where on here I read it, but it works like a charm
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: Sanguine]
#12261469 - 03/24/10 10:13 AM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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I just realized this because the metal sticks up. Will it cut the tyvek though?
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: insipidtoast]
#12262041 - 03/24/10 12:00 PM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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Nope
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: insipidtoast]
#12263438 - 03/24/10 03:06 PM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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I have never had a contam caused by tyvek, how would tyvek cause a contamination? And I have made self sealing lids with silicone but found that the process to make those is really just a waste, they do work, but i guess i am lazy and rather not make them. And even when i did the self healing lids, i never used the metal lid, just tyvek.
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: insipidtoast]
#12263456 - 03/24/10 03:08 PM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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Quote:
insipidtoast said: I just realized this because the metal sticks up. Will it cut the tyvek though?
Depends on how tight your tyvek is, when you PC i could put small holes in your tyvek
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: insipidtoast]
#12263634 - 03/24/10 03:37 PM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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the risk is going to be taken
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: kechlesurf]
#12263639 - 03/24/10 03:38 PM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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kechlesurf said: I have made self sealing lids with silicone but found that the process to make those is really just a waste, they do work, but i guess i am lazy and rather not make them. And even when i did the self healing lids, i never used the metal lid, just tyvek.
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: TheBandit]
#12264373 - 03/24/10 05:29 PM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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hmmm. I don't see how this works The lids aren't able to screw on straight because of the tyvek layer. WTF?! Does this matter?
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: insipidtoast]
#12264454 - 03/24/10 05:39 PM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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i do it totally different than everyone else.i put lid with holes on, seal down, then a single layer of tyvek cut directly to size of lid, then ring.when i inoculate, i simply lift up the tyvek , inject, then lay it back down.if you are working in a glove box, it shouldnt matter, i cant remember the last time i had a jar contam.the lid seal down prevents it from sliding off when inoculating.who cares if it takes some force to pry it off, unless you are a skinny 3rd grade girl, it shouldnt be a problem.
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Edited by christdriver (03/24/10 05:40 PM)
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: christdriver]
#12264543 - 03/24/10 05:51 PM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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the lid seal down prevents it from sliding off when inoculating.who cares if it takes some force to pry it off, unless you are a skinny 3rd grade girl, it shouldnt be a problem.
Definitely starting to think along these lines as well.
Also, going to put the tyvek below the lids so the injection holes are actually visible. Simple. If damp tyvek is going to be a problem with contams, chances are something went wrong during a previous step.
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Re: Tyvek - Finding the injection holes [Re: insipidtoast]
#12264616 - 03/24/10 06:01 PM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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Quote:
insipidtoast said: hmmm. I don't see how this works The lids aren't able to screw on straight because of the tyvek layer. WTF?! Does this matter?
lid, tyvek, ring. And it will screw on, just got to get it lined up right first
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