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OfflineShaw
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Over pasturizing substrates
    #1225766 - 01/17/03 08:37 AM (14 years, 7 days ago)

Has anyone tried using an unpasteurized, or only partially pasteurized compost indoors? Sort of like an outdoor style indoor, or maybe even a partial outdoor. I had some contaminated rye fruit in a bucket of compost in an open barn last fall. I have recently noticed that the compost that has been over pasteurized has contaminated much more rapidly. I have also read that sometimes it is unnecessary to add external heat to pasteurize the compost, as it can get hot enough by it's own heat under the right circumstances. Anyone have success with this type of thing?


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Re: Over pasturizing substrates [Re: Shaw]
    #1225886 - 01/17/03 09:07 AM (14 years, 7 days ago)

i heard of Derayld(sp) using non-pastueirzed dung and straw and just adding boiling hot water and letting cool then draining. But the spawn ratio has to be high like 1:2 or its a great place for contams. U can fruit compost/dung/straw substrates indoors as long as its p. cubes.


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Re: Over pasturizing substrates [Re: Shaw]
    #1226355 - 01/17/03 11:27 AM (14 years, 7 days ago)

I am also using Derrayld's style, in fact, using HOT water in dung is a kind-of-pasteurization and you do get some disgusting smell. Its just easier. But dont forget that its a fight inside the casing then, between myc and contaminants in the dung, so you have to use more percentage of myc to be sure it will win :wink:

On the 'Mushroom Pictures' forum i have pix of my latest Plantasia Mystery that was done this way.


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Re: Over pasturizing substrates [Re: Shaw]
    #1226358 - 01/17/03 11:29 AM (14 years, 7 days ago)

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I have recently noticed that the compost that has been over pasteurized has contaminated much more rapidly.




That is because it wasn't pastuerized at all, it was sterilized.

And if you take poo inside and wet it it will contam if you dont pastuerize it.


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