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Hyphal Knots or Knot ?
    #12247820 - 03/22/10 08:52 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Just wanted to ask are these Hyphal Knots forming ?
Pretty sure they are just wanted validation  :geicogecko:

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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: emptyvessal]
    #12247917 - 03/22/10 09:20 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I don't see any.
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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #12248011 - 03/22/10 09:56 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

There might be 2 in the first image.


I used to think those were knots too, but the knots are smaller and beige colored. in my experience they tend to look like the color of a mushroom stem, not pure white.


your tub is not finished colonizing btw.


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: teesionbear]
    #12248151 - 03/22/10 10:39 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

How do you know my tub isnt finished colonizing????


Thats a casing of peat and verm your looking at.

The sub was fully colonized a week ago. Sub being coir/verm/gypsum/coffee.




I guess i dont know what a hyphal knot is and i have looked at 20 posts or more showing Hyphal Knots . :picard:


So am i just looking at Rhizomorphs ?????

I can see that what i have will soon turn into Hyphal knots correct?


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: emptyvessal]
    #12248173 - 03/22/10 10:44 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I see a well colonized casing with some dew on it but no pins.
You'll see them soon enough because it looks like you're doing well.


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: SillyBilly]
    #12248403 - 03/22/10 11:38 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Im with RR..I dont see any. I see rhizos and dew drops..should have knots soon.

I dont have any real good knot shots..this one is knotting though



I found this too..some are knots some are pins..


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: emptyvessal]
    #12248568 - 03/22/10 12:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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How do you know my tub isnt finished colonizing????


Thats a casing of peat and verm your looking at.

The sub was fully colonized a week ago. Sub being coir/verm/gypsum/coffee.




Oh, it was a trick question!  How thick is the casing?

Knots will form down in the casing layer when they're ready, and that casing is pretty damn ready, so introduce it to fruiting conditions.  What you see on the top is almost all rhyzo.  There might be some knots in there though, esp. in the 2nd pic.

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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #12248781 - 03/22/10 01:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Im with RR..I dont see any Rhizos and dew drops..should have knots soon.

I dint have any real good knot shots..this one is knotting though



I found this too..some are knots some are pins..







OK thanks for that hard to see in the first pic second one its easier i shall re study Hyphal Knots so i can get a grasp of what I'm looking at :smile:  :geicogecko:

I just saw Rhizos come up and then join with other strands so i thought that was Hyphal Knotting as it kind of went with the wording but guess i was barking up wrong tree :shoosh:

Will keep checking my tray then take another pic of what i think is  hyphal knot now and see if you all agree !! :harhar:


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #12248798 - 03/22/10 01:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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How do you know my tub isnt finished colonizing????


Thats a casing of peat and verm your looking at.

The sub was fully colonized a week ago. Sub being coir/verm/gypsum/coffee.




Oh, it was a trick question!  How thick is the casing?

Knots will form down in the casing layer when they're ready, and that casing is pretty damn ready, so introduce it to fruiting conditions.  What you see on the top is almost all rhyzo.  There might be some knots in there though, esp. in the 2nd pic.

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Casing was about a inch maybe 3/4 thick and the sub was 4 inches thick :smile:

Oh and its in the FC now has been for a few days :geicogecko:


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: emptyvessal]
    #12248807 - 03/22/10 01:06 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i bet you see em withing 4 days :grin: just a guess


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: Funyunsfriend]
    #12248824 - 03/22/10 01:08 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I hope its sooner as im going away in 2 weeks :smile:


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: emptyvessal]
    #12248838 - 03/22/10 01:10 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

good luck to you bromosexual :smile: ill do a little fertility dance for ya or somethin


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: Funyunsfriend]
    #12248844 - 03/22/10 01:11 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

You better after saying  bromosexual    :awedance:


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: emptyvessal]
    #12254050 - 03/23/10 08:55 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Hi Today I Found Some Pins Emerging :awedance:

If Anyone sees a Hyphal Knot please point it out to me. Thanks  :geicogecko:




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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: emptyvessal]
    #12254401 - 03/23/10 10:22 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i think in the fourth pic on top from the lower right corner those white looking ball things are hyphal knots maybe knot though lol get it.

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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: emptyvessal]
    #12254484 - 03/23/10 10:36 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

why do you care so much about knots anyway? i was wondering..


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: prismism]
    #12254503 - 03/23/10 10:40 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think he just wants to know what they look like.

You got a strain that comes up from under the surface a little, some do that..so the casing mix and hyphaes are covering up the knots..none are visable in the pictures I can see.

lots of knots pictures


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #12254584 - 03/23/10 10:52 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

only thing i see resemblin a knot is in the 2 pic from left bottom row about dead center of pic


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: prismism]
    #12254590 - 03/23/10 10:53 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Because for the last few days I have chosen to care about Hyphal Knots :fearandloathing:

Tomorrow it might be the percentage of real fruit in jam who knows!!!


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: emptyvessal]
    #12254747 - 03/23/10 11:21 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I use this picture so people can easily see hyphal knots, primordia, pins, and mushrooms.  The knots are less than 1mm in diameter.  Primordia are starting to look like mushrooms as they elongate.  Pins have stipes and caps forming.  Mushrooms are. . . .mushrooms.
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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: emptyvessal]
    #12254971 - 03/23/10 11:53 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Tomorrow it might be the percentage of real fruit in jam who knows!!!




Just in case, about 1 gallon of strawberries would make about 18 8 ounce jars.


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #12255348 - 03/23/10 01:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I use this picture so people can easily see hyphal knots, primordia, pins, and mushrooms.  The knots are less than 1mm in diameter.  Primordia are starting to look like mushrooms as they elongate.  Pins have stipes and caps forming.  Mushrooms are. . . .mushrooms.
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Thanks I have seen that pic before while i was searching Hyphal Knots. I guess it would be easier to see them on a uncased sub as its hard to see whats going on through a casing.  :harhar:


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #12255356 - 03/23/10 01:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Tomorrow it might be the percentage of real fruit in jam who knows!!!




Just in case, about 1 gallon of strawberries would make about 18 8 ounce jars.






Ha ha ha ha ok i will make a note of that !! :awedance:


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #12255720 - 03/23/10 02:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I use this picture so people can easily see hyphal knots, primordia, pins, and mushrooms.  The knots are less than 1mm in diameter.  Primordia are starting to look like mushrooms as they elongate.  Pins have stipes and caps forming.  Mushrooms are. . . .mushrooms.
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Ive seen this pic before on here how did you grow that on money and also why lol. Its awsome looking but I never would of though of it.

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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: ShaneOmack]
    #12255801 - 03/23/10 02:45 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

the money was a casing i assume


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    #12255892 - 03/23/10 02:56 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

It was a casing layer..he stuffed grain into just about anything he could think of I think to get mushies on it just to say he could, I think :smirk:.


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #12256229 - 03/23/10 03:40 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I use this picture so people can easily see hyphal knots, primordia, pins, and mushrooms.  The knots are less than 1mm in diameter.  Primordia are starting to look like mushrooms as they elongate.  Pins have stipes and caps forming.  Mushrooms are. . . .mushrooms.
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Only a wasteful Americans could use $20 dollar bills as bulk sub. LOL I love it.

Seriously though the amount of 20s you used could have feed a small African family for a year. I shit you not.


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: ronjohn7779]
    #12256487 - 03/23/10 04:13 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Ah, you can just dig 'em out and redeem them for new - all you need is >50% of the bill or 2 legible serial #s.  Don't know about the yen, though. :lol:

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Im fairly sure he washed off the money and used it.


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #12260287 - 03/24/10 02:42 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I'd hope so. That would be one of the most expensive batch of mushrooms on earth.


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    #12261575 - 03/24/10 10:25 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Im fairly sure he washed off the money and used it.



I'd hope so. That would be one of the most expensive batch of mushrooms on earth.




Actually I would imagine this white widow he grew on would be worth more then the money


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    #12261646 - 03/24/10 10:40 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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    #12262982 - 03/24/10 02:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Progress :geicogecko:





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    #12263163 - 03/24/10 02:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

looking pretty awesome man :grin::thumbup: good work


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    #12275393 - 03/26/10 09:06 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: emptyvessal]
    #12275481 - 03/26/10 09:23 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: rsinatra13]
    #12275620 - 03/26/10 09:56 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i think you might have worried prematurely lol looks real good man

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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: andymc]
    #12275925 - 03/26/10 10:53 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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that is just wrong




Don't MAKE me have to post the non-cropped version of this picture. :shocked:
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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #12275951 - 03/26/10 10:57 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

:laugh2: It must get weird up in those mountains during the long, cold winter months.


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #12275988 - 03/26/10 11:04 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Now THAT is just wrong..

I just noticed he has spore prints for eyes heh.

hey empty vessel..in both of those pics almost dead center in the first and dead center in the second, in the areas with no pins..I see hyphal knots..they'll be pins next flush.


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #12276606 - 03/26/10 12:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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that is just wrong




Don't MAKE me have to post the non-cropped version of this picture. :shocked:
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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: drewb149]
    #12276626 - 03/26/10 12:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Yep i always worry a bit before i see anything :smile:  Prob due to being new at all this :harhar:


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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: emptyvessal]
    #12276667 - 03/26/10 12:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah you deffinatly did something right very nice flush.

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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: ShaneOmack]
    #12282887 - 03/27/10 01:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Harvest Time/First Flush 1416 Grams    :fearandloathing::awedance::brucelee:




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    #12285403 - 03/27/10 10:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Harvest Time/First Flush 1416 Grams    :fearandloathing::awedance::brucelee:







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Re: Hyphal Knots or Knot ? [Re: rsinatra13]
    #12285480 - 03/27/10 10:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Nice harvest.

But I came to ask RR...

I was looking through your gallery.

Impressive.

But why you holding out,

On the un un cropped version?







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