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InvisibleRoom4Shroom
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    #1223018 - 01/16/03 08:10 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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OfflineCurious_George
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Re: ~~ Quick Opinionated Question ~~ [Re: Room4Shroom]
    #1223023 - 01/16/03 08:13 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

do you have a pressure cooker?

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Re: ~~ Quick Opinionated Question ~~ [Re: Room4Shroom]
    #1223036 - 01/16/03 08:17 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

stick to just perlite for humidification in your grow chamber. I think the pottin soil sounds a little messy. Just fruiting the cakes following the mmgg should get you the results that you want. You could try casing a cake or two using just a plain half inch verm casing layer, but since it is your very first grow, just fruiting the cakes should guarantee 100% success as long as your temps and humidity is right.


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Re: ~~ Quick Opinionated Question ~~ [Re: Room4Shroom]
    #1223044 - 01/16/03 08:19 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds good - thanks a lot for your help burntout.


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Re: ~~ Quick Opinionated Question ~~ [Re: Room4Shroom]
    #1223249 - 01/16/03 09:32 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Well im not that experienced.  But i've read everything you did and was similarly confused.  I used BRFvermiculite substrate as per PF, but when i fruited em the cakes wouldn't pin!  So i crumbled em up and cased with  moist vermiculite and had a bunch of small, but really potent shrooms 2 weeks from birth.  So thats what i would recommend, but hear what others say as well. :laugh:


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    #1223267 - 01/16/03 09:43 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

again, i'm not YET  :smirk:.. experienced... but i could not get cakes to pin either!! they just dried out and died.

My first casing attempt however, was a complete success!! ( until it turned green that is..  :frown:  ) but that was my fault and i know why!!!

i say fuck cakes.... go with casings!
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Re: ~~ Quick Opinionated Question ~~ [Re: Room4Shroom]
    #1223375 - 01/16/03 11:09 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Well, it all depends on how serious you are about this. Cakes are pretty simple (comparitively), and should get you some good results as long as you keep your humidity high (perlite is the shiznit!). My cat has had better luck with casings, though, and reccomends at least trying one. Shultz Cactus Soil is an excellent casing material (wet and microwave for 12 minutes on high to pasteurize).

If you are serious about this hobby, though, I would strongly reccomend getting yourself a good-sized pressure cooker - like 15-16 qt. The All American brand is a little more expensive, but worth it (all metal - no rubber seals to dry out or tear). I would also migrate quickly from BRF/Verm to Rye Berries or some other kind of whole grain. Rye Berries colonize MUCH faster and are easier to work with.

Just be sure to do several cakes at a time - maybe a couple more than will fit into your terrarium. That way you can be assured that at least a few of them will turn out!

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Re: ~~ Quick Opinionated Question ~~ [Re: Room4Shroom]
    #1223461 - 01/16/03 11:51 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not that experienced either, only on my second grow, but I would advise that you start with cakes first.  This may only be because I had, and continue to have good experiences with them.

Don't worry about doing anything too fancy your first time around.  Get to know these magic organisms and their life cycle. 

My first grow was also 6 1/2 pint cakes.  I got a total of 160 wet grams from all of the flushes.  Getting that much amazed me, and, as I'm sure you've seen, that number is dwarfed by everyone elses results on the forum  :smile:

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    #1223479 - 01/16/03 12:00 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

damn! another response from a comparative newbie (3 harvests and loving it):

i'd agree that pftek, jars-cakes-perlite is easily the best way to get into this hobby. i've learnt so much from doing this, i feel sorry for all the mycobag-growers. honestly, there are things that only experience can teach you.

my first grow was B+ 12 jars, mmgg, cakes. i probably got about 200g wet from the lot, but even if i'd only harvested a single fruit, it would have been worth it.

i'd shy away from puertoricans first try, tho i've never tried them myself yet : everything i've read suggests that they're among the hardest strain of cubensis to grow.

you are going to love this hobby.  :grin:

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Re: ~~ Quick Opinionated Question ~~ [Re: Room4Shroom]
    #1223483 - 01/16/03 12:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

oh yeah i forget to mention something that should help with the cakes alot. if you dunk the cakes in water for 12 hours right after birthing it greatly helps the pinning. After dunking i usually get my first pins in 48 hours. helps to increase the yeilds to. you should dunk in between each flush also. Casing always works better for me but I think for a first grow cakes are the way to go. After you got that down I think the hole casing thing will come much easier and the yeilds when compared to the cakes will be much much greater.


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Re: ~~ Quick Opinionated Question ~~ [Re: Room4Shroom]
    #1224063 - 01/16/03 04:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

High !

I recommend doing BOTH cakes AND casings for your first grow just for experience.

I've never had very good results from cakes even after dunking although I've seen some good pics of cakes on this site.

I did both cakes and casings on my first grow and where as I had an average of just 2 or three shrooms per flush on cakes I had a sea of shrooms on my casings.

I've never done cakes since.  :grin:


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