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Re: Freedom is a joke [Re: ]
    #1220543 - 01/15/03 09:44 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

We strive to live as free as we possibly can.Being bound to nature is not the same as being bound to man.We can never truly break our bonds with nature, but mans bonds?They can be broken!


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I see what everyone is saying. It is so hard to form an opinion when you see both sides so clearly!


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    #1220566 - 01/15/03 09:51 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Freedom is a joke [Re: ]
    #1221026 - 01/15/03 12:10 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I know that we are never really free but whats this country coming to. If your arabic you can be locked up in solitary confinment(spellings wrong I know) for years for shit like not having your green card on you at the time they confront you. They don't just lock up men either. They put entire families in. Even babies. And if there were another terrorists act locking up a couple thousand families isn't going to stop it. You lock up one of there terrorist they send another to get the job done. And I heard something on the news about two u.s. pilots bombing a canadian base after being told for like 20 minutes to turn around since they left the u.s. air space. They said they thought arabs were firing on them but they knowingly flew over a canadian shooting range and were told to turn around long before that. They are going to trial but I would bet my life they get away with it.


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Re: Freedom is a joke [Re: Dr. Slavic]
    #1221422 - 01/15/03 02:20 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

If you fought it,at least you may have felt better about yourself.Don't blame the founding fathers because you have not the courage to stand up for yourself.Educate yourself,cause that cop played you like a cheap fiddle.Saying no is not probale cause,an although you would have probally lost in court,at least make em earn that donut.


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Re: Freedom is a joke [Re: Dr. Slavic]
    #1221705 - 01/15/03 04:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Asked if he can search me so I said no i haven't done anything to deserve it. By me saying no was resonable cause for a search.




Nooo you musta been up to something  :smirk:...saying no to a search is definatly not reasonable cause to search..trust me, I've said no my fair share of times and never been searched!  Dude if you really wern't doing anything wrong you shoulda sued the pants off thelittle piggies.  Lawsuits...The AMERICAN way!!!  :grin: 

edit: nevermind, ater some thought I realized that you CAN be searched and arrested now, and not read your rights till after being put into holding.  thanks to the PATRIOT act!! God bless America!!


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Re: Freedom is a joke [Re: FatNug]
    #1222289 - 01/15/03 11:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Whats wrong with the people here?? COPS GET AWAY WITH MURDER!! I couldn't do a thing but go to jail if I tried anything. Thats not b.s. either. I asked many lawyers about it and every one of them said I was screwed. My friend was arrested with me and got the best lawyer in this county and he got a year of probation for 28 grams. He spent around 7 thousand on his lawyer and was told the same as me. If you fight it you without a doubt will go to jail. Probations not bad but still all we were doing is walking though a parking lot at 9 p.m. The first cop to arrive said some cars had been broken into lately(total B.S.) and that was his first reason for search. But the only other car in the parking lot was in front of the most lit open store in this town. On the main road too so noone would be stupid enough to think about breaking in a car. He then asked me if I was the brother of **** and I said I am remaining silent and will give him only the info to who I am. He then called for backup and when it arrived they search us all and took me and one of my friends off to jail. Cops can search for any reason and in this state they now have the right and permission to lie without any consequences. TO LIE ABOUT ANYTHING!!! NOT B.S. like i'm sure many of you are thinking. THE ONLY REASON THEY SEARCH ME IS BECAUSE OF MY BROTHER. Who I don't even talk to anymore since his habits ruined all his friendships. Anyway he hadn't been in trouble since about ten years ago and only for small stuff like curfew. Never drugs or theft and he doesn't even live around here anymore but when the cop saw that he was my brother he was determined to search me.


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Re: Freedom is a joke [Re: Dr. Slavic]
    #1222300 - 01/15/03 11:11 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Read these Steppenwolf lyrics slowly and carefully and maybe you will realize this country is not the great land of freedom but the land of greed and selfishness.

Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And 'til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

The blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hog

And though the past has it's share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it's protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey

The spirit was freedom and justice
And it's keepers seem generous and kind
It's leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin'

Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching

(America)
America where are you now?
Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster



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Re: Freedom is a joke [Re: Dr. Slavic]
    #1222303 - 01/15/03 11:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

" nevermind, ater some thought I realized that you CAN be searched and arrested now, and not read your rights till after being put into holding. thanks to the PATRIOT act!! God bless America!! "

Thank you very very much for posting that and also realizing the facts.


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