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Dealing with intense rage * 1
    #12212690 - 03/16/10 01:21 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

My blood is pumping so fast, my heart is racing and all I can see is red.


There is nothing that could cool, soothe or put out this fire now. Every grain of my being is burning.

I feel like unleashing it on the people who made me feel this way.
Whats a healthy way of dealing with these feelings?

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #12212699 - 03/16/10 01:25 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Bonghit.  I mean, i know it sounds shallow and short-sighted, but they always work for me.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: memes]
    #12212713 - 03/16/10 01:27 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Try looking at that slug in your picture, Thats flippin awesome.


Try taking deep deep breaths the "high" from the extra oxygen should calm you.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Skurfy]
    #12212722 - 03/16/10 01:28 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Punching bag or running always works for me.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Tangich]
    #12212758 - 03/16/10 01:34 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

I dont even want drugs or anything to numb it, I want to bask in it, let it grow and make them pay.

Ill try my best to convey it to them just in words and not take any retaliation...very opinionated words.

I feel sick to my stomach. I feel like breaking something. I feel like punching someone really hard.

Edited by MisterMuscaria (03/16/10 01:41 PM)

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #12212825 - 03/16/10 01:48 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

get a constructive hobby. you have too much energy

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #12212930 - 03/16/10 02:06 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

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MisterMuscaria said:
Whats a healthy way of dealing with these feelings?



Quote:

MisterMuscaria said:
I dont even want drugs or anything to numb it, I want to bask in it, let it grow and make them pay.




Step 1:  Make up your mind.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: memes]
    #12212965 - 03/16/10 02:12 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Care to elaborate what is making you so angry?

My advice is to take a second and just start meditating, try and clear your thoughts and just focus on breathing until you finally feel relaxed. Either deal with the feelings and let them calm or act on them. It is your choice.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: memes] * 1
    #12212973 - 03/16/10 02:14 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Anger can be a tool, although not a great one. Vengenance can be allconsuming. Been there, done that. let it go, unless its easier to choke someone!

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: feifen]
    #12212993 - 03/16/10 02:17 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

I love how when people have an emotional issue people automatically say meditation. I think when a person has severe emotional issues the last thing that will help them an advanced practice of calming the mind. That's like asking someone to go from 100km/h to 0 instantly. First they need to take their mind off their anger, once their mind isn't angry and relatively calm then they can try sitting quietly.

Maybe marijuana would be good, but I wouldn't start relying on it to help with your problem. It could make things worse.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Titus_Pullo] * 1
    #12213025 - 03/16/10 02:22 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Its not a common issue for me, I dont have anger problems.

Im just very angry right now due to circumstances beyond my control.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #12213116 - 03/16/10 02:39 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Then just say you want to vent, not that you're looking for a way to suppress your rage (which you obviously aren't, since y0u  told us as much)

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Titus_Pullo]
    #12213396 - 03/16/10 03:22 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

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Titus_Pullo said:
I love how when people have an emotional issue people automatically say meditation. I think when a person has severe emotional issues the last thing that will help them an advanced practice of calming the mind. That's like asking someone to go from 100km/h to 0 instantly. First they need to take their mind off their anger, once their mind isn't angry and relatively calm then they can try sitting quietly.

Maybe marijuana would be good, but I wouldn't start relying on it to help with your problem. It could make things worse.




I don't ever meditate often, but if you ever have tried it is very relaxing. are you kidding? Advanced practice..? Just sit down, stop thinking and focus on your breathing and just relax.. I understand he is angry... and the best way to calm the situation in your head is to try and relax it :shrug: Especially if you can't do anything about it.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: feifen] * 2
    #12213411 - 03/16/10 03:24 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Yeah, his post didn't make any sense whatsoever. :lol:


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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MushroomTrip] * 1
    #12213497 - 03/16/10 03:34 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

If you're too stupid to make any sense of it, it's not my problem.

Sorry I'm not some guru/stoner/hippie that finds meditation easy. I've tried it, I don't find it easy at all, clearing your mind completely seems somewhat impossible to me, although you can calm your mind down significantly. Just try to think if you were a very angry person, your mind is racing, your heart is beating rapidly due to intense emotions...You really think sitting down trying to relax is going to help? These people need help immediately, they need to keep their mind occupied on something other than what is making them angry. They should go for a run, bike ride, swim, gym, movie, something to take their mind off the anger. Afterward they can sit down, relax and try meditation.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Titus_Pullo] * 1
    #12213525 - 03/16/10 03:38 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

when you get mad..just :whacker:

just kiddin'..find ways to deal with it, such as punching the shit out of a punching bag

-exercise

-drawing severly violent pictures that get you sent to the nearest psychologist

-going postal

-taking three triple shots of 151 and then confronting those who made you enraged

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Titus_Pullo] * 1
    #12213646 - 03/16/10 03:56 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

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Titus_Pullo said:
If you're too stupid to make any sense of it, it's not my problem.

Sorry I'm not some guru/stoner/hippie that finds meditation easy. I've tried it, I don't find it easy at all, clearing your mind completely seems somewhat impossible to me, although you can calm your mind down significantly.




Good for you, seems to me you're the unskillful one over here. And since the advice was not addressed to you, can you stfu now. :tongue2:


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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #12213987 - 03/16/10 04:51 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

half-way reading through the thread, i realized the title is "dealing with intense rage" - not what i originally thought, "dealing with intense rape." the responses made me re-read the title! i guess i read rape because i'm pretty tired now, but also because i've been dealing with a traumatizing experience when i was threatened by it or perceived to be... anyway, about the rage, i dunno, go hit some heavy weights in the gym! if you don't have access, go get a membership then :smile:

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MushroomTrip] * 1
    #12214014 - 03/16/10 04:59 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Hey man, I can definitely relate about the intense anger
I have occasionally had luck dealing w rage using the following techniques:
Drumming is the most surefire technique I've found; the physical catharsis of beating on drums and the satisfaction of rage being transferred directly in to some thing constructive is SO GOOD
To a lesser extent (when drums aren't available) chanting a simple mantra can help dissipate the emotions, keeping in mind that the emotions are transient regardless how well-founded the reason for them may be; I've never meditated, but I imagine that this is similar to meditation

Any more suggestions, folks?


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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #12214459 - 03/16/10 06:09 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

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MisterMuscaria said:
My blood is pumping so fast, my heart is racing and all I can see is red.


There is nothing that could cool, soothe or put out this fire now. Every grain of my being is burning.

I feel like unleashing it on the people who made me feel this way.
Whats a healthy way of dealing with these feelings?





By realizing that nobody made you feel any way. You are doing all of it.


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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #12214496 - 03/16/10 06:14 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

I thought about that a few minutes ago...I know I need to just detach. I feel betrayed but it was my fault I feel betrayed and has nothing to do with them. People are animals.

Perhaps I slipped up in being too trusting.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #12214707 - 03/16/10 06:43 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

No flaming.

Edited by WhiskeyClone (03/19/10 02:45 AM)

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Titus_Pullo]
    #12214760 - 03/16/10 06:52 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

You're the one calling my advice bad when you can't even do it properly.. so how can you knock meditation?

You should probably stop posting BTW, you're making yourself look arrogantly stupid.  :cheers:

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: feifen]
    #12214819 - 03/16/10 07:04 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

No flaming.

Edited by WhiskeyClone (03/19/10 02:45 AM)

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Titus_Pullo] * 1
    #12215221 - 03/16/10 08:11 PM (14 years, 16 days ago)

I like the  :cheers: dude...


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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MisterMuscaria] * 1
    #12216574 - 03/17/10 12:37 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

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MisterMuscaria said:
I feel like unleashing it on the people who made me feel this way.
Whats a healthy way of dealing with these feelings?




The healthy way is to recognize that your anger is something you're doing. Nobody made you angry. Somebody did something you didn't like and you reacted with anger. It is your reaction that sucks. That's what you need to work on.

My advice is don't indulge in fantasies about revenge or hurting people, because that will only fuel your shitty feelings. And don't expect other people to act in ways that make you feel good, that's not their responsibility. People are animals, like you say. Forgive them for being human, and rage will not be a problem for you.


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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #12216692 - 03/17/10 01:13 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Ive loosened up since I posted the OP, now Im no longer angry. I realize it's not worth getting bent out of shape for.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #12216705 - 03/17/10 01:19 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

pain is inevitable suffering is optional.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Titus_Pullo]
    #12217400 - 03/17/10 08:06 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

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Titus_Pullo said:
Quote:

MushroomTrip said:
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Titus_Pullo said:
If you're too stupid to make any sense of it, it's not my problem.

Sorry I'm not some guru/stoner/hippie that finds meditation easy. I've tried it, I don't find it easy at all, clearing your mind completely seems somewhat impossible to me, although you can calm your mind down significantly.




Good for you, seems to me you're the unskillful one over here. And since the advice was not addressed to you, can you stfu now. :tongue2:




Lol, calling me unskillful because I don't find meditation easy. You must be a very enlightened cunt. Seems to me the only thing your good at is being a bitch on the forum.





What's the point in all the name calling? That just looks like sour grapes.

But I do agree with your POV on meditation. It's quite difficult at times and people make it sound like some magic pill which it obviously is not.

Must be especially hard for people like us who are hard asses though.:satansmoking:


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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Titus_Pullo]
    #12217430 - 03/17/10 08:15 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

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Titus_Pullo said:
Quote:

MushroomTrip said:
Quote:

Titus_Pullo said:
If you're too stupid to make any sense of it, it's not my problem.

Sorry I'm not some guru/stoner/hippie that finds meditation easy. I've tried it, I don't find it easy at all, clearing your mind completely seems somewhat impossible to me, although you can calm your mind down significantly.




Good for you, seems to me you're the unskillful one over here. And since the advice was not addressed to you, can you stfu now. :tongue2:




Lol, calling me unskillful because I don't find meditation easy. You must be a very enlightened cunt. Seems to me the only thing your good at is being a bitch on the forum.



Wow, seems that you're dealing with quite the rage yourself. Funny that you should call me all these names, but that I am still the one who's being a bitch. I didn't even address you, you're the one who decided to go all stupid ape on me.  :crazymonkey:


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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #12217467 - 03/17/10 08:27 AM (14 years, 16 days ago)

Quote:

WhiskeyClone said:
Quote:

MisterMuscaria said:
I feel like unleashing it on the people who made me feel this way.
Whats a healthy way of dealing with these feelings?




The healthy way is to recognize that your anger is something you're doing. Nobody made you angry. Somebody did something you didn't like and you reacted with anger. It is your reaction that sucks. That's what you need to work on.

My advice is don't indulge in fantasies about revenge or hurting people, because that will only fuel your shitty feelings. And don't expect other people to act in ways that make you feel good, that's not their responsibility. People are animals, like you say. Forgive them for being human, and rage will not be a problem for you.




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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Society]
    #12218522 - 03/17/10 12:48 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Yah, problem is all taken care of, I dont feel the rage anymore.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Icelander]
    #12218823 - 03/17/10 01:41 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

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What's the point in all the name calling? That just looks like sour grapes.

But I do agree with your POV on meditation. It's quite difficult at times and people make it sound like some magic pill which it obviously is not.

Must be especially hard for people like us who are hard asses though.:satansmoking:




Yes, I suppose I got a bit carried away, I apologize.

Quote:

Wow, seems that you're dealing with quite the rage yourself. Funny that you should call me all these names, but that I am still the one who's being a bitch. I didn't even address you, you're the one who decided to go all stupid ape on me.




You could have made it more clear to who you were addressing in your post though, if you look back it seems like it is directed to me, at least that is how I see it. Yes, I have anger problems as well, hence the reason for me being in this thread. Honestly, if anyone is posting in here who does not have anger problems you are just wasting everyone's time.

I've been dealing with anger and anxiety for a long time and at first I tried to meditate but it actually made things worse. Everyone is going to deal with it differently, so what works for one person may not work for others. I still think that meditation should not be promoted as if it were some "magic pill" as Icelander put it.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Titus_Pullo] * 1
    #12218893 - 03/17/10 01:52 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

did you get ripped off or what?


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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Titus_Pullo]
    #12218968 - 03/17/10 02:05 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

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I've been dealing with anger and anxiety for a long time and at first I tried to meditate but it actually made things worse. Everyone is going to deal with it differently, so what works for one person may not work for others. I still think that meditation should not be promoted as if it were some "magic pill" as Icelander put it.




I was replying to feifen, not to you.
Anyways, I never said it is a magic pill.
You just seemed to have kind of an absolute view on this advice, and I thought that it didn't make much sense. Coincidentally, I think that usually meditation doesn't even work so well, especially on its own, when it comes to deep emotional issues. However, in certain cases, the little change it can produce on one's mindset could be extremely helpful, mostly because through this one can become aware that they are the ones who are in control of their emotions and that they can do even more to help themselves though various techniques.


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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #12219542 - 03/17/10 03:47 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Talk about a derailed thread. Im not even angry anymore.
Meditation actually helped me through most of it ironically.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #12219907 - 03/17/10 04:58 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Well see, you didn't even need to follow any advice given here cause you managed it on your own. :lol:


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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Titus_Pullo] * 1
    #12220231 - 03/17/10 06:24 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

I've been dealing with anger and anxiety for a long time and at first I tried to meditate but it actually made things worse.

I've seen this happen before. I've seen it happen with all kinds of shit that's supposed to be infallible. Like you said,nothing works for everyone and when your back is really against the wall, usually you have to work out your own salvation. And there is no guarantee  you will. I certainly haven't been able to.


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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: Icelander]
    #12220359 - 03/17/10 06:57 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Yep I agree. It's good to take advice from people who have experienced it, but ultimately you need to find your own way. Everyone's mind and body is different.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MisterMuscaria] * 1
    #12222079 - 03/18/10 12:18 AM (14 years, 15 days ago)

I have this problem alot.

In the past few months I have almost done something to end up in prison like 5 times.

What I generally do is freak out and break things in order to prevent myself from ending up in jail for assault or manslaughter.

Also opiates help alot IMO, if it werent for opiates I would be in jail right now.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #12222102 - 03/18/10 12:22 AM (14 years, 15 days ago)

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The healthy way is to recognize that your anger is something you're doing. Nobody made you angry. Somebody did something you didn't like and you reacted with anger. It is your reaction that sucks. That's what you need to work on.






You dont know anything about his situation other than what he posted.

What if he has some condition beyond his control and it makes his life miserable, then some asshole does something like exploit it or ridicule him about it?

His reaction sucks if he gets angry?

Ridiculous.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: The Bastard] * 1
    #12222238 - 03/18/10 12:44 AM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Please let this thread die already. Ive already worked out the situation.

MODS: please delete this thread, unless you think the answers therein could help someone else.

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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #12222541 - 03/18/10 03:27 AM (14 years, 15 days ago)

I generally take opiates to help relieve my rage issues.


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Re: Dealing with intense rage [Re: The Bastard]
    #12228946 - 03/19/10 03:00 AM (14 years, 14 days ago)

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The Bastard said:
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WhiskeyClone said:
The healthy way is to recognize that your anger is something you're doing. Nobody made you angry. Somebody did something you didn't like and you reacted with anger. It is your reaction that sucks. That's what you need to work on.






You dont know anything about his situation other than what he posted.

What if he has some condition beyond his control and it makes his life miserable, then some asshole does something like exploit it or ridicule him about it?

His reaction sucks if he gets angry?

Ridiculous.




Not what I meant dude. I mean the part that sucks in these situations is the reaction, not the stimulus. In all these situations "beyond his control" his response to it is still up to him. Anger is just one way of responding, but it usually doesn't do a lot of good. With some skill and intention you can skip the whole useless anger phase and get right to either accepting the problem or fixing the problem. Fantasizing about cracking skulls is a painful and useless way to respond to problems.


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