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Marketing a website for cheap
#12194065 - 03/13/10 06:09 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Looking for suggestions for advertising my website without paying loads of money for a banner ad.
Also does anyone have advice on how to get your site up there on google searches?
Is there a way of getting google or similar to advertise your site without paying them? Do they do a % sales based system or something like that?
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: nice1]
#12194083 - 03/13/10 06:22 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Use google adsense for the ads.
Use google webmaster tools to "suggest" your site. Use <meta> tags to make your website more noticeable.
You can submit your site to a lot of websites directly. It takes time, and a lot submitting to her your site out there. Maybe add a blog, where you can use linkbacks and such to get your site pinging other sites, which then may link back to you, etc.
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: nice1]
#12194087 - 03/13/10 06:25 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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P.S. I misunderstood, I thought you were asking about getting ads on your site. Adwords, is the advertising arm of google. Paid advertising on google is expensive, you pay either by impressions per 1,000 or per click. It's called "paid SEO" (search engine optimization), but I think organic SEO will be better for you.
What's your site about? Are you selling a product or service? Something tangible? Or are you looking for advertising revenue off the content on the site? Maybe add a link here and I'll definitely look at it.
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: Groovy Grant]
#12194091 - 03/13/10 06:29 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the advice, I'm looking into it.
Its a webshop selling goods.
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: nice1]
#12194122 - 03/13/10 06:43 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah definitely. Good luck to you!
It's a lot of work, and there isn't much response initially. It seems for what it's worth, it takes a ton of effort to create something, and takes nothing but a few moments time from someone to check it out, however to get people to make that effort is huge.
Once you get on google, you'll start to get random people coming to the site. I don't get many, maybe 4-5 a day from google searches, but considering I'd have to pay almost $1.25 for a click through rate, that saves money. It's slow, but hopefully it will find it's place in the interwebs and be there and easy for the people who need it to find.
Are you using a hosting company? They have a lot of programs to help you get started.
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: Groovy Grant]
#12194942 - 03/13/10 12:35 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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The forum below shares a lot of methods for SEO(search engine optimization) and advertising. with craigslist, ewhoring and a lot of other methods that will get people to your website.
Good Luck.
http://www.blackhatworld.com
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If you are using a hosting company could you tell me which it is. I have been looking into them and would like to find out which is the best, for the least amount of course. Are there any to steer away from? How difficult is it open an e-commerce website/business with no programming knowledge?
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: FNFAL]
#12195267 - 03/13/10 01:27 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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FNFAL said: If you are using a hosting company could you tell me which it is. I have been looking into them and would like to find out which is the best, for the least amount of course. Are there any to steer away from? How difficult is it open an e-commerce website/business with no programming knowledge?
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FNFAL said: If you are using a hosting company could you tell me which it is. I have been looking into them and would like to find out which is the best, for the least amount of course. Are there any to steer away from? How difficult is it open an e-commerce website/business with no programming knowledge?
If you're in America I can recommend a good host for you called www.made2own.com
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: FNFAL]
#12195287 - 03/13/10 01:30 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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I use godaddy to host, since it was easy to migrate to their server when purchasing domains. Although, I didn't do much research I pay about $65 a year for 1,500,000 megs of bandwidth a month and unlimited domains hosted. It's actually been pretty nice.
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: Groovy Grant]
#12195319 - 03/13/10 01:33 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Large places like godaddy screw a lot of people out of customer service and they'll just cut your service off all together if they get a single complaint, without investigation. Sometimes big corporations arent so great, well most of the time actually.
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I've had the service for a few months, they called me and set everything up, and never had any issues. But that may have been a different story for you.
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: Groovy Grant]
#12216917 - 03/17/10 02:55 AM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Go daddy has awesome customer service, or else they wouldnt be so successful. The site u recommended, www.made2own.com , has a very low alexa rank , which means that it does very little business despite being around for the past 9 years.
Godaddy, on the other hand, has been around for 11 years but is in the top 100 sites of the world, and obviously they got there by not fucking people over and with good customer service.
For hosting, go w/ go daddy, especially if you have a small site. Hosting is just $5/month or so, so there isn't really any money lost if you don't go with someone cheaper. w/ go daddy you get really good customer service so you should go with them
Marketing wise, obviously going straight to an advertiser like google adwords is really risky. Obviously the best advertising solution for you would be google adwords, but there is a risk free, more cost effective solution, which is Search Engine Optimization...
For SEO of a webshop you are better off doing it yourself (as in do not hire anybody to create the meta tags for your webpages etc., just do the research on how to do it correctly yourself)
If you ever want to be succesful with a webshop, organic traffic is key...
For more traffic, you will need a good google page rank. (yahoo search engine and others use similar system to rank where your site appears in search) The higher your page rank, the higher ur results are on google ( as in they will appear closer to the first page ).
How do you raise your pagerank? You raise it by submitting to directories, and having people link to your site. It is tedious, boring, time consuming, etc.
So how do u get around it? If you have repetitive jobs may I suggest:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/forumdisplay.php?f=24
you can outsource it to ppl in India and pay them next to nothing... its really awesome. Just post a thread asking for SEO services, and you will get tons of reply's.
You will need to know what you are doing tho. You can check ur pagerank w/ google toolbar. anyways, I hope I helped and good luck.
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: nice1]
#12271711 - 03/25/10 06:25 PM (13 years, 10 months ago) |
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Let's comment and take a look at the site...
PM if needed.
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: xtokex]
#12287418 - 03/28/10 12:06 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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xtokex said: Go daddy has awesome customer service, or else they wouldnt be so successful. The site u recommended, www.made2own.com , has a very low alexa rank , which means that it does very little business despite being around for the past 9 years.
Godaddy, on the other hand, has been around for 11 years but is in the top 100 sites of the world, and obviously they got there by not fucking people over and with good customer service.
godaddy is successful because they spend so much on advertising, nothing more. they are terrible as a registar and terrible as a hosting company. i can't think of one person involved in internet marketing/business that uses them for either domain registration or hosting. if this is your first website, go for it. but if you're at all serious about making money online, you need to find better choices. do some research.
and you're basing a companies worth on their alexa ranking, is that some sort of joke? what does a companies alexa ranking have to do with how many customers they have or how reputable they are? for the record made2own is ran by great people who are very approachable and, unlike godaddy, are involved in affiliate marketing. they are real people, not a giant faceless corporation.
some people man..
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: pH_]
#12287674 - 03/28/10 01:05 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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What makes you say they are terrible as a registar and as a hosting company? Godaddy has great customer service/ tech support
A companies alexa ranking is designed for how popular/dependable something is. It tells you how many people visit it/ how popular it is. I mean, it gets at least 15 million hits a day while made to own gets hardly 10K hits a day, despite both being around for a similar time of 9-11 years. Godaddy wouldnt be so huge if they had lots of people with shitty experiences.
I heard of a few horror stories with them(godaddy) in a few forums, but the posting dates on the those stories were from like 06-07 with new services they had By now it seems they got all the kinks worked out with their services
Bottom line, in my experience with godaddy any tech problems I've had (i use go daddy as hosting) I easily got around by calling their support, and after like a 5-6 min wait time the tech support rep told me in detail how to easily fix my problems.
BTW Theres a bunch of coupon codes out there w/ godaddy, just google godaddy coupon codes and you can get like 25% off ur order.
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: xtokex]
#12291219 - 03/29/10 07:04 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm with xtokex. Big fan of godaddy. I've got a few domains registered and hosted through them and have never had any problems in 5+ years. I would rate their tech support as outstanding based on my personal experiences. Despite being a large corporation, I get more of a small company vibe when I deal with them. I'm never on hold for long (if at all), the reps speak clear English (no dealing with "Bob" in India) and I even get periodic calls from them to make sure I'm satisfied with their service and to offer suggestions on how they could improve.
No complaints here
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: nice1]
#12298053 - 03/30/10 09:50 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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When I had my own message board at a time, the absolute most successful way of bringing in traffic was having a link to it in my signature on OTHER boards that I posted on.
This thread for example, you've avoided posting a link to your site for the obvious reasons. But had you had it, I bet everyone who posted in this thread plus every lurker would have clicked on it.
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yea but, ur looking for real traffic not like 10 or 20 hits a day from some forum sig, all of which would be junk
Like, normally its .8-$1 per each 1K pageviews u get with banner ads
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: xtokex]
#12300319 - 03/30/10 03:56 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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for one godaddy doesn't offer free whois protection as other registars do (namecheap for example). privacy protection is pretty damn important when it comes to marketing, especially if you are playing in the grey/black spectrum of things.
check out http://nodaddy.com/ and http://www.webhostingjury.com/reviews/Go_Daddy
i still fail to see how an alexa ranking is relevant at all to how good/reputable a hosting company is. you do know how easily those rankings are manipulated right?
all i'm saying is that there are much better companies out there to work with if you're running any serious, substantial web business. godaddy and the like are great for beginners, people making their first website..
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: pH_]
#12300621 - 03/30/10 04:50 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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One other good site to get content built and such is : rapidworkers.com . I ran into at digitalforums which I think was posted above. Also thefreeadforum.com lets you post links and such, and may an alright place to market. Good luck
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: pH_]
#12301754 - 03/30/10 08:16 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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pH_ said: for one godaddy doesn't offer free whois protection as other registars do (namecheap for example). privacy protection is pretty damn important when it comes to marketing, especially if you are playing in the grey/black spectrum of things.
check out http://nodaddy.com/ and http://www.webhostingjury.com/reviews/Go_Daddy
i still fail to see how an alexa ranking is relevant at all to how good/reputable a hosting company is. you do know how easily those rankings are manipulated right?
all i'm saying is that there are much better companies out there to work with if you're running any serious, substantial web business. godaddy and the like are great for beginners, people making their first website..
Dude r you stupid? that whois protection runs $9 a year with godaddy.... $9!! ur complaining about that?
U know what alexa rankings are rite? they tell u how popular a site is in the world.
Alexa rankings are not easily manipulated anymore (they fixd all that)
Godaddy gets like 15 million hits a day... do u think they got there with shitty service, or with good service?
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: xtokex]
#12305395 - 03/31/10 12:40 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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namecheap provides free whois protection for a year while godaddy doesn't. not to mention namecheaps protection is less than $3 a year per domain. but godaddy is the best right??
i have been doing internet marketing for 9-10 years man.. i'm not going to argue with you anymore, this is pointless. think what you want, it doesn't matter to me. it's your money and your business.
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: pH_]
#12307017 - 03/31/10 04:56 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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pH_ said: i'm not going to argue with you anymore, this is pointless.

You know what they say about opinions...
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: FooMan]
#12310273 - 04/01/10 05:52 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the advice guys,
I got this today, they e-mailed me, I'm not sure to join or not?
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Hi,
I'm going to be brief and straight to the point.
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As part of this program, I will also track your site's ranking and traffic and generate reports, so you always know how your website is ranked in every search engine for every search term.
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This program is provided free of charge, not some limited time free trial, so you can take advantage of it for as long as you wish. Why free? We have other programs that involve payments. We've calculated that about 5% of our Analytics users engage in those, so while the program I described is free, we gain you as a potential client in the future.
Here are some screen shots and demo:
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For detailed setup instructions you can refer to our documentation: http://expo-max.com/documentation/analytics/setup/
Once your site is being tracked, it will start appearing in our search results as soon as enough information is gathered.
Please let me know how it works out or if you need my help.
Is this a trick or something useful to me?
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: nice1]
#12316421 - 04/02/10 07:40 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's all about backlinks and shit. I wouldnt fuck around with that cuz your site might be left out of google's index because they ignore link farming things like these
I never got into backlinks and link exchanging cuz its boring and a waste of time, but You should only exchange backlinks with sites you personaly look over, with a high google Page Rank so yours will get higher.
Generally, the point is that people find your content useful, and will post it on things like social bookmarks like Digg, or forums which will direct people to your site without any effort from you at all. Google recognizes links to your site from websites with a high Page Rank, and assigns your site a page rank based on a formula of the number of sites and page ranks of said sites which link to your site. The page rank determines the order in which your site appears in searches.
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Re: Marketing a website for cheap [Re: nice1]
#12358297 - 04/08/10 09:26 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://www.thirtydaychallenge.com/
Subscribe to this guy and listen to what he says, he'll teach you seo from the ground up
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