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18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question.
    #12176054 - 03/10/10 07:04 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I hear to case them. I hear not to case them. I've read to case them. I've read it doesn't matter.
  Would you case them or not. Does it matter? Does it not?


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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: hamloaf]
    #12176076 - 03/10/10 07:14 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

A proper monotub should provide an appropriate environment either way.
What substrate are you using?


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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: Doc_T]
    #12176122 - 03/10/10 07:35 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

IME casing layers are not needed for a mono.  Remember a casing layer is mainly a micro climate at the substrate surface to maintain proper Rh.  So if the mono is made right it will maintain proper Rh anyways.

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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: hamloaf]
    #12176131 - 03/10/10 07:39 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

A casing layer isn't needed for monotubs. I haven't noticed any difference in cased vs uncased tubs. Plus the casing layer adds another vector for contamination. The few times I've had contaminated monos, the contamination was in the casing layer.


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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: Doc_T]
    #12176426 - 03/10/10 09:27 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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A proper monotub should provide an appropriate environment either way.
What substrate are you using?



Straw and cow manure, actually. Fresh manure. From the field. What are you thinking?


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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: hamloaf]
    #12176437 - 03/10/10 09:29 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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A proper monotub should provide an appropriate environment either way.
What substrate are you using?



Straw and cow manure, actually. Fresh manure. From the field. What are you thinking?





Did you let the manure get leached and dried a few times ?? Or was it wet right from the feild

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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: Shea25]
    #12176451 - 03/10/10 09:32 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Leached, not leeched. Just sayin'.


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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: Doc_T]
    #12176457 - 03/10/10 09:34 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Leached, not leeched. Just sayin'.





Its to early :crazy2: need more coffee

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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: Doc_T]
    #12176458 - 03/10/10 09:34 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: Shea25]
    #12176471 - 03/10/10 09:39 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yea Shea25. Fully dried manure(grey). 3 inch straw. Pasteurized properly. 170 degrees boiling water for an hour. The question I was having is concerning casing. TO case or not to case.


What are you thinking Doc T.?


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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: Damion5050]
    #12176477 - 03/10/10 09:40 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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IME casing layers are not needed for a mono.  Remember a casing layer is mainly a micro climate at the substrate surface to maintain proper Rh.  So if the mono is made right it will maintain proper Rh anyways.



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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: hamloaf]
    #12176480 - 03/10/10 09:41 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I would fruit it uncased

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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: hamloaf]
    #12176488 - 03/10/10 09:43 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Coir doesn't need casing as much as some other materials, that's all I was thinking.
Poo/straw, you probably want to case most of the time- but not in a monotub, no need.


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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: Damion5050]
    #12176572 - 03/10/10 09:57 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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IME casing layers are not needed for a mono.  Remember a casing layer is mainly a micro climate at the substrate surface to maintain proper Rh.  So if the mono is made right it will maintain proper Rh anyways.



:imwithstupid:



I heard you Damien5050 and FooMan too. I just wanted to hear what DocT had to say. I like that dude.
  Thanks for all the useful information on the subject. I have no use for a contamination vector or the extra cost.


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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: hamloaf]
    #12176606 - 03/10/10 10:03 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well, if you ask me, monotubs are contam prone anyway. :shrug:


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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: Doc_T]
    #12176636 - 03/10/10 10:12 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Well, if you ask me, monotubs are contam prone anyway. :shrug:



Well. That's what I wanted to hear. Why do you say monotubs are contam prone anyway? What do you suggest?


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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: hamloaf]
    #12176646 - 03/10/10 10:14 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Hybrid design with open holes has worked better for me. Click the Mini Mono link in my sig block to see what I mean.


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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: Doc_T]
    #12176652 - 03/10/10 10:15 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

clicks link

:shocked: I'mma try that next time doc. Thanks:grin:

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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: JonEveryman88]
    #12176662 - 03/10/10 10:18 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I've been mailing your chicken vid to people, it's a fair trade.


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Re: 18 Gallon MONOTUBS. To Case or Not to Case.That is the question. [Re: Doc_T]
    #12176668 - 03/10/10 10:19 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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I've been mailing your chicken vid to people, it's a fair trade.




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