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moi
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Re: The troof ! [Re: Poid]
#12148670 - 03/05/10 01:24 PM (14 years, 26 days ago) |
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jivjan, it's so easy to tell you're legit with this stuff. to be honest, you're the only one who gives me that feeling ... hope i spark an ego frenzy in you with that, har har.
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roboto212 said: Yes I ate raw food :0, but no I have no foraged my food... Im already pretty good at it though
Yes like I said. Lets wait and see if it all pans out like you imagine. When I traveled overseas nothing ever worked out like I was expecting. sometimes better and some times worse. Sometimes the things I thought I was going to be able to do didn't quite happen or happened much differently.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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roboto212 said: Yes I ate raw food :0, but no I have no foraged my food... Im already pretty good at it though
Yes like I said. Lets wait and see if it all pans out like you imagine. When I traveled overseas nothing ever worked out like I was expecting. sometimes better and some times worse. Sometimes the things I thought I was going to be able to do didn't quite happen or happened much differently.
OK. I will never come to this website again after I leave next thursday... but you are more than welcome to watch my journal online and email me! peace o/
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I'll mark that on my calendar.
Have a great experience. I hope you find what you seek.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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jivjan, what i wanted to say is, it really impresses me how you're able to speak from your own personal truth. it always seems to me everyone is stuck in their habits and reiterations of something. you can speak from that own personal core. and when i started writing on this forum you hit me hard with an answer of yours. it's like other people rather restrain from being too personal. all stays on superficial level. but me too VERY often and i can't help it.
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Re: The troof ! [Re: jivJaN]
#12149399 - 03/05/10 03:35 PM (14 years, 26 days ago) |
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jivJaN said: the whole point of my post really is that we could be doing so much. So much that matters , so much that inspires ... so much of it would be fun and interesting. But we aren't doing those things and i am bored.
Maybe you can find a way to make peace with that .. and props to you.. but me.. i dont want to find peace with it, cause if i did that would stop me from poisoning your minds with this stuff
i dont wish to wholeheartedly adapt to this reality we are co creating - i wish to modify it. i want to put my twist on it.
if i can have more fun in my dream that in waking reality , then, the waking reality is quite boring. its not about objects or fullness or stillness. that is something you learn.. and thats it. you dont need to incorporate it with every aspect of life because that is contradictory.
you speak of a philosophy , a meditation , self inquiry that leads to the core of all existence itself.
But let me ask you something.. do you know we are the same person ? do you see that "core" within me ?
how are we communicating then ? why do you have a body and a brain and a job ???
because it is an experience. one , out of an infinite amount. this whole thing we're involved in.. the world.. humanity.. its a game. all im saying.. is that i am getting bored with the way we play this game. its time for an upgrade.. a new patch !
this place is a place where we learn pleasure and pain. we learn compassion and cruelty. Lies.. and deceit.
But me.. i dont see it that way anymore. I don't care if you die. It wont bring me pain.
All those seemingly different aspects of what this experience here has to offer has turned into a very different dichotomy for me - fun or boring.
and i dont want to have fun by getting drunk and having sex. its cool.. i had my fun with that.. but thats boring now. i want something new.
if i lock you in a room .. tie you up to the bed, and play one song for hours. are you going to sit there and find a way for it not to bother you , or will try to change your situation ?
we stay present.. we dont run away from what is. we accept it.. and then.. we can say : hey.. i dont really like this. im gonna change it.
thats what im doing. im not in pain.. im not suffering. im bored.
i want us to build a spaceship and go visit some other place in the universe. i want to see what its like to have sex a green woman. i want to sit on clouds and get high instead of being in your room watching some funny show i've prolly already seen.
i've gotten to the point where my compassion is being numbed down by the repetition of problems people have. i now find it , actually boring to listen to people.
you have a girlfriend ? ask her everyday , what her day was like. you will probably leave her after a couple weeks of that.
ask yourself everyday.. what was my day like ? you will want to leave .. your life.
i have left it. and im waiting for some more amusing. more entertaining , more intriguing... and im very much alone. not because there is no one around me..
people call me.. but i stay home. during the summer.. id rather go and walk around the woods alone than bring someone with me (except my dog)
i actually feel more comfortable hanging out with my dog than other people. maybe he doesn't have a sophisticated brain like we do.. but he has that spark in him..
he sees another dog he barks ! he goes toward him. he wants connection. he wants the experience. Then they run.. they bite each other.. they play.
WE.. we walk by each other every day.. like its nothing. all imprisoned in our own brains .. thinking about what it will be like when we get wherever we're walking to. how much the cigarettes are when i get to the store or how much your day is gonna suck because its saturday.. and you're on your way to work.
we're not playing anymore. do you understand what im saying ? see my dog is fine with staying inside too.. he's that kind of being. the kind of being you speak about that incorporates matters of the spirit into every experience. he wont suffer or say that hes bored. he finds a way to fully enjoy every moment.
But we , dont have to do that. WE have the power to change it.
So lets do it ?
Lets not make peace with this boarded room and broken record.. lets fuck up the room , and play our own music.
because this is getting BORING
I see that core in everything, especially beings like you that explode when they express I love that you inspire change that pushes life to fulfill its immense potential rather than just stagnate & make do, and i irrefuteably feel that when you consciously live direct from the core, then the most incredible change happens, its not so much a roundabout process of the mind, its direct & instantanious creation.
You know how to live from there, you can reach your centre so you can sense the limitless potential of expression that comes from there, but most beings still haven't got the first step of waking up down pat just yet
It has to be wake up first, then create change, then fulfill potential, otherwise the change only comes out of ignorance, so never reaches true potential When the power is returned to its correct location then naturally wonderful things manifest But there is NO attachment to them, if there is attachment then is not gonna happen so sweetly
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deff said: there's other lives than human ones
and there's a lot of suffering
you say you're getting bored - but boredom is suffering in this case caused by your desire for experience
i understand where you're coming from though
i don't mean to seem glum, but i really don't think there's something more
there's higher heaven realms where beings can instantly manifest any object at will and share it with one another - basking in the beauty of things (so i hear)
but those lives end when the merit which placed one there does, and that loss is said to be very unpleasant
even if you don't believe in different realms - i don't see how one can find any lasting happiness in conditioned existenc
this post probably sounds pretty glum
Not at all, it sounds like perfection to me! How could it be any other way? Would this universe be so unkind as to let us delusionally enjoy phenomena for eternity? No, it gets its zen stick out and makes us wake up to the ever pure, perfect and blissfull nature of our Self
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Kickle
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Re: The troof ! [Re: jivJaN]
#12150785 - 03/05/10 08:36 PM (14 years, 26 days ago) |
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jiv you remind me of a coworker. He makes films for a living But he's too poor to just do what makes him happy all day long So he has to work an entry level job, just like me
And this drives him batty. He can't just do the same thing over and over again day in and day out The irritation with it drives him to creative action. He's always trying to spice it up. Doing creative little things here and there, dicking around, getting yelled at. Engaging customers in bizarre conversations Getting coworkers involved in silly schemes Always at the expense of doing real labor. Always getting in trouble by management.
Conversely, I'm very content with the job. The routine is the best part. I know what to expect. That way, I know just what I need to do. I can gauge how much time for creativity I will have. To go hog wild when the work is done.
Just the other day, I got a manager to stuff a co-worker into the overhead storage all while customers were in the store. Creativity can happen whether you fight what is or not. If you work with the system, you can find the opportunities and make them work for you.
But then again, maybe that's the whole point, you don't want them to work for ya you want others to make it happen and that's why you push against the structure The structure that holds others down, not you
Still, I find that working with the structure, finding its weak points-- and then BOOM bursting with creativity... that's the way to get others to see
to let others get involved without feeling guilty about it to let others see how much fun it really can be
My workplace has gone from serious business to seriously fun. We pool money nightly to get some good food we sit in an office eating and bullshitting, working when there is work to be done pulling pranks when the time is right breaking all the corporate rules, without getting caught
I really don't mind structure. I don't need it to be MY structure to enjoy it. Creativity is great, and I very much appreciate my coworker for his. But, for me, there are ways to be creative without rebelling so hard. I am content to work hard when there is work to do. Building up creativity during, waiting for the opportune time.
In holding that creativity, one needn't even feel it pressing. Just an awareness that it's always there, ready to be used. And also being aware of the other aspects of life -- the need for shit to get done
-------------------- Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
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Re: The troof ! [Re: jivJaN]
#12160042 - 03/07/10 04:47 PM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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jivJaN said:
i want us to build a spaceship and go visit some other place in the universe. i want to see what its like to have sex a green woman. i want to sit on clouds and get high instead of being in your room watching some funny show i've prolly already seen.
i wanna teach myself how to teleport, and have sex in Zero-g
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-------------------- --------------------- All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional. They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively. I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal. If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Re: The troof ! [Re: jivJaN]
#12160190 - 03/07/10 05:12 PM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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-------------------- We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
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Re: The troof ! [Re: moi]
#12160196 - 03/07/10 05:14 PM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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thnx man
-------------------- --------------------- All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional. They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively. I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal. If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..
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Re: The troof ! [Re: jivJaN]
#12160299 - 03/07/10 05:36 PM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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im gonna figure out how to reverse the polarity of huge stones and levitate them and im gonna built a perpetual motion holder, free energy machine, and an anti-gravity craft. hah!
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Re: The troof ! [Re: Kickle]
#12160377 - 03/07/10 05:51 PM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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hey.. sry for not replying earlier.
i haven't felt any urgency when it comes to you lately. i feel like we are always in sort of an understanding with each other even though we come from different perspectives. so sometimes.. i dont reply.
you are going really fast. i noticed the point when you started 'going' and you've been accelerating ever since.
the little light bulb above your head has been flickering on and off but you never give us one or the other. a perfect mix ..
every time you address me , i feel as if you teach me something , while expressing your own curiosity and eagerness to learn as well.
the same applies to your post. you share a perspective with me , that i can acknowledge , but unfortunately, describe circumstances that were never my own in the so called 'workplace'.
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In holding that creativity, one needn't even feel it pressing. Just an awareness that it's always there, ready to be used. And also being aware of the other aspects of life -- the need for shit to get done
hehe
what if all the shit got done ?
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Re: The troof ! [Re: jivJaN]
#12161003 - 03/07/10 07:58 PM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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i feel like we are always in sort of an understanding with each other even though we come from different perspectives.
perhaps we're after the same thing
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what if all the shit got done ?
I dunno... The stillness would be eerie I think. But I do like micro-managing.
Just yesterday, I set two people to work. They helped me clean up around the apartments I'm living in. And they're very selfish people.
I do not own the apartments and have no reason to invest my time in cleaning up. That's the job of the property management company. But they've been lax... And... it was a great opportunity to give these selfish people a reason to feel good. To feel good about themselves, for real reasons. For putting in effort, even if it means nothing in "reality".
They knew they were getting something out of it, even if it wasn't visible on the surface.
-------------------- Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
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Re: The troof ! [Re: Kickle]
#12161615 - 03/07/10 09:45 PM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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see.. that was one of the main reasons i made this post. i dont like getting shit done , when there's more shit to be done after. there always is and that never makes me feel good.
i am annoyed by the fact that when i brush my teeth , i will have to do it again in a couple hours. It makes me not want to do it. and if i dont.. then they get cavities... and then i have to go to the dentist , and i need money for that ..blablabla
i am just sick and tired of all this bullshit.. im not going to work and im going to do the bare minimum that life and my body expects , as to not endure any further frustrations.
dono.. i just feel like we've been given a coloring book , and we're all coloring and coloring.. sometimes it does end up looking pretty.. but there were conditions to it ! and the best we can do is color a bit outside the lines and call it our own. but its NOT. and that pisses me off. and there is no way im going to find a way to be cool with it. i dont even want to.
i want a blank piece of paper..
fuck it. dont even give me the paper. ill find something to paint WITH , and ill find something to paint ON... IF I FEEL LIKE PAINTING
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Re: The troof ! [Re: jivJaN]
#12161882 - 03/07/10 10:38 PM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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jivJaN said: see.. that was one of the main reasons i made this post. i dont like getting shit done , when there's more shit to be done after. there always is and that never makes me feel good.
i am annoyed by the fact that when i brush my teeth , i will have to do it again in a couple hours. It makes me not want to do it. and if i dont.. then they get cavities... and then i have to go to the dentist , and i need money for that ..blablabla
i am just sick and tired of all this bullshit.. im not going to work and im going to do the bare minimum that life and my body expects , as to not endure any further frustrations.
dono.. i just feel like we've been given a coloring book , and we're all coloring and coloring.. sometimes it does end up looking pretty.. but there were conditions to it ! and the best we can do is color a bit outside the lines and call it our own. but its NOT. and that pisses me off. and there is no way im going to find a way to be cool with it. i dont even want to.
i want a blank piece of paper..
fuck it. dont even give me the paper. ill find something to paint WITH , and ill find something to paint ON... IF I FEEL LIKE PAINTING
You know apples are a natural Toothbrush.
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Re: The troof ! [Re: jivJaN]
#12161889 - 03/07/10 10:39 PM (14 years, 24 days ago) |
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Yeah, you do take your signature seriously can't say I don't feel similarly.
I've just found it best to pick my battles, so I can live to fight another day
-------------------- Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
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