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What God Is * 1
    #1215090 - 01/13/03 03:07 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

The Will, the desire, the thirst to exist, to continue, to become more and more... This tremendous force moves whole lives, whole existences, the entire universe.

It continues to manifest itself in infinite forms, infinite vantage points of perception to experience every aspect of itself. It does this through the process of rebirth or 'shedding skin', which is a symbol for the destruction of itself. This process is proof to me of a perpetual rebirth of the universe, some would call reincarnation. But that term is widely misunderstood, I think... Reincarnation is merely the infinite expression of God... There is no soul but the All. Anything else is a projection of the ego, or 'false self'.

Do you want to know what this force looks like?
Well, we see it as Light.
We hear it as Sound.
We feel it pulsing in all areas of our bodies, but centered in our Hearts...

This is God.


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist] * 1
    #1215094 - 01/13/03 03:08 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Oh, and I forgot to mention The Void... Silly me.

The Void is the Great Sustainer.


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist] * 1
    #1215111 - 01/13/03 03:16 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist] * 1
    #1215223 - 01/13/03 03:56 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

To clarify a bit: post number 1 is Hadit, post number 2 is Nuit.

Hadit also goes by the label Lucifer, the originator of Time itself..
Nuit is what is known as Space. She is the Void, the Tao, the Way, The Abyss...

These archetypes of this Universe together is 'All That Is'... not just existence, but un-existence as well. The male and the female, as the collective consciousness of the human race is starting to realize once again. We were alienated from Death as a society for a long time because it was hidden by Materialism, but the Archaic Revival is now speaking, and we are shedding our collective skin to realize that Death is a transition, not an end. Your Body Is Not You.

You cannot worship life without worshiping death. Silly fundamentalists.


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist] * 1
    #1215237 - 01/13/03 04:01 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Old Turtle would say, "God is."

I think that just about sums it up.


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist] * 1
    #1215371 - 01/13/03 04:55 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I experienced God as I read that.  Thank you.  :grin: 

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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist] * 1
    #1215393 - 01/13/03 05:03 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I've recently started understanding that God is the collective scource of all the energy in the universe. Since everything contains traces of energy, especially living things, we all are a part of our "God". Since energy cannot be created nor destroyed, we are all eternal and God is eternal. Light is energy and god has often been described as a devine light. When our bodies decease, I believe that we rejoin this collective light and live eternal. That's just what I think anyways.


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Re: What God Is *DELETED* [Re: Adamist] * 1
    #1215398 - 01/13/03 05:05 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist] * 1
    #1215402 - 01/13/03 05:07 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

God, in my aquired understanding,is a creator.That is the nature of God.That is why we are driven to create.I believe we were created in Gods image.But believing that does not neccasarily mean I am religious!When God spoke things into existance,Faith was needed. We have an opportunity to aquire God like faith by believing in something we cannot see.Then we can move on to become creators.


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist] * 1
    #1215407 - 01/13/03 05:09 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: What God Is [Re: sirreal] * 1
    #1215408 - 01/13/03 05:09 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

When you understand the nature of light, I think you gain insights into the nature of God.


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Re: What God Is [Re: OkEyToKeY] * 1
    #1215415 - 01/13/03 05:11 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

The Archaic Revival is not an 'Age of Enlightenment', nor is such an age even possible by traditional definitions of the word "enlightenment". There is no absolute enlightenment... The only thing close would be in The Void, which by definition does not exist. In the world of Light (and thus Time), however, "enlightenment" is an eternal process in which we each play a role in.

Hope that clarifies my meaning a bit. :smile: 


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Re: What God Is [Re: sirreal] * 1
    #1215423 - 01/13/03 05:14 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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We have an opportunity to aquire God like faith by believing in something we cannot see.Then we can move on to become creators.



We ARE creators. :smile: 


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist] * 1
    #1215431 - 01/13/03 05:15 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

We are God


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Re: What God Is [Re: bluesky] * 1
    #1215465 - 01/13/03 05:26 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

we like the rain


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist] * 1
    #1216197 - 01/13/03 11:35 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

In a very limited sense. Actually , we are more like manipulaters than creators at this point.We have the potential! :smile:


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist] * 1
    #1216239 - 01/14/03 12:28 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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In the world of Light (and thus Time),





In the world of light time does not exist.


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Re: What God Is [Re: sirreal] * 1
    #1216267 - 01/14/03 12:57 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

But in the world of Light making love to Dark... that is Time.


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist] * 1
    #1216268 - 01/14/03 01:00 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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But in the world of Light making love to Dark... that is Time.





In the world of good and evil?Yes, time is a factor there!


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Re: What God Is [Re: World Spirit] * 1
    #1216506 - 01/14/03 03:54 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

If you can't picture God in a human body

Why should we picture God in a human body?

The only "body" that I can picture for God is the universe itself.

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    #1216524 - 01/14/03 04:07 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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I wouldn't quite yet say the masses of humanity are nearing a so called "Age of Enlightenment"




"Masses" will never near anything...

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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist]
    #1217280 - 01/14/03 08:37 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Shakti. The Power aspect of God, according to classical Hinduism. Not the Whole picture. Definately not the God of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist]
    #1217292 - 01/14/03 08:40 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

You would do well to reframe God as 'Thou,' rather than 'It' in Buber's terms. 'Who God Is' is far more than 'What God Is.' God is at least personal, and then, utterly transcends personality. God is not impersonal - we are personal - and we did not originate from That which is less than us, but from One Who is Infinitely Beyond our comprehension.


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Re: What God Is [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #1217340 - 01/14/03 08:51 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

If God utterly transcends personality and is infinitely beyond our comprehension, why get caught up in individual, subjective perceptions of Who/What He/She Is? :wink: 


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist]
    #1217784 - 01/14/03 11:06 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

God ... well that is a hard word to sum up. God is neither male or female, light nor dark, evil or good. As one person put it god just "is" I like to personify god as I am sure most do. (by the way I am not a relgious person so none of this is bias. )
I like to see god as a woman because being a woman it is more peronal and in touch with my own spirit. I see god as a creator and we are ment to take on the image of this great creator. God is like light. Everywhere, time does not apply, space has no meaning... I guess this is the best way I can put this...

"If I was god, I'd cry, I'd be like... oh, my god..." ~ Accidentally my new qoute


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Re: What God Is [Re: DaughterOfTheMoon]
    #1218036 - 01/14/03 12:18 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)


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"If I was god, I'd cry, I'd be like... oh, my god..."





Bin there done that. \=]



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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist]
    #1218093 - 01/14/03 12:44 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah!

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Re: What God Is [Re: DaughterOfTheMoon]
    #1218509 - 01/14/03 03:45 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Hi! Welcome to the Shroomery and SPS! :smile:

Please read the "Be Nice" policy if you haven't done so already.

Nice to see you in here.  Your uncle is cool! :cool:

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Re: What God Is [Re: DaughterOfTheMoon]
    #1219072 - 01/14/03 06:20 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

God ... well that is a hard word to sum up. God is neither male or female, light nor dark, evil or good.

You got that right! Good post by the way, I hope to see you around here more often.

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Re: What God Is [Re: Murex]
    #1219116 - 01/14/03 06:32 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

If you look at my 3rd post I try to explain that existence is made up of both 'The Power' and 'The Void'. It is not just either one... not just male, or female. Light, or dark.

To attempt to clarify, I will say that imperfection is the architect of evolution. 'The Void' limits 'The Power' so that it may constantly grow. This constant dissonance between these 2 "forces" is what we call existence.


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist]
    #1219279 - 01/14/03 07:11 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

god is stuff

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Re: What God Is [Re: deep_umbra]
    #1220182 - 01/15/03 05:48 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

god is MacGyver


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist]
    #1220191 - 01/15/03 05:53 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Do all of you folks really think this controversy over language using ambiguous words that mean different things to different people is an effective way to describe God?

                I know of no better way to share God then to instruct one to just go out and find a patch of woods (anything really) and just let the mind chatter be taken over by your senses.  If the chatter honestly subsides God will be seen, heard, felt, smelled, and tasted (if you so desire  :smirk:).  The sensuous world we live in without a doubt defeats our individual ability in expressing God. 
 


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Re: What God Is [Re: followingApath]
    #1220203 - 01/15/03 06:04 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

It seems to me that you are describing a very sensual experience.Kind of hard to escape sensuality.Maybe I misunderstand what you are saying.I agree totally that an understanding of God is hard to relate!!!


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Re: What God Is [Re: followingApath]
    #1220297 - 01/15/03 06:39 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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The sensuous world we live in without a doubt defeats our individual ability in expressing God.




gGod is. The material world is simply the part of Heaven that we can touch.


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Re: What God Is [Re: sirreal]
    #1220299 - 01/15/03 06:39 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I am trying to relate that as real as we can get is the sensuous and if god is "the ultimate real" than our world of senses is as close as we can to god. It sounds like you think i am over emphasizing the important of the sensuous but i think everyone can become closer to god by getting more in touch with the only world around them. Therefore i don't think the sensuous can be downplayed.



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Re: What God Is [Re: followingApath]
    #1220517 - 01/15/03 07:38 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I do not mean to sound to "christian" here, but I believe that our sensuality can and usually does interfere with our spiritual search and understanding.The only purpose I can see for this existance is faith. Love is noble and important but has no spiritual implications other than creating an environment that is peaceful and conducive to faith and spirituality.Through faith we become true creators! I believe the created is seperate from the creator!And getting to know the created is not the same as getting to know the creator.Through faith you understand God.Through experience you understand the world around you.That is not to say that God cannot be seen and felt in the natural world.


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Re: What God Is [Re: Adamist]
    #1220634 - 01/15/03 08:20 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Because God does have a 'face,' a personality, a Logos through which we are created and can remain in comm[union]. To forget this is the treat God as an 'object,' when [S]He is THE Subject - the Infinite "I AM."

We are as God's thoughts, to use a comparison with ourselves and the relativity of what we consider to be real. We can conceive thoughts, and bring them into physical existence. Not all at once, as say, a time machine. But lasers, nuclear fission/fusion, etc. were ideas long before we were capable of manifesting them, because we are caught in time, and accrue knowledge in time. God is the Creator of Existence, which is a set that contains everything that we can conceive and bring to manifestation.

Aside from God as Creator, but as Savior - the aspect which both guides and transmutes us so that we do not merely perish meaninglessly in the immensity of Creation - God can be communed with, and we will never reach the zenith of human development if this axis, this line of communication is not established. Of course, I am approaching this as a Theist, and God as Pure Being from which I derive my beinghood. For me, no matter how fascinating the metaphysics of Buddhism gets, the infinite complexity of creation, of a human body alone, points to Intelligent Design, to Purpose. I want to Know the Designer, not merely liberation from the cycle of recycled existence.


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Re: What God Is [Re: Murex]
    #1220924 - 01/15/03 09:37 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I am glad to see I am so welcomed here!! :smile: I am a very spiritual person and will be posting here ALOT! By the way does anyone know about the Celts?


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Re: What God Is [Re: DaughterOfTheMoon]
    #1220950 - 01/15/03 09:44 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

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I am glad to see I am so welcomed here!! :smile: I am a very spiritual person and will be posting here ALOT! By the way does anyone know about the Celts? 




My ancestors fought alongside William Wallace.

Does that count?

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Re: What God Is [Re: the_Landotter]
    #1221240 - 01/15/03 11:09 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

My full name is Irish yeh :wink: . fathers side were the irishmen. but what about the celts man?


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