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We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind * 3
    #12150314 - 03/05/10 06:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I just thought of this idea. and I'm not on drugs either (well except jwh&caffeine. but that doesn't count)

just as the brain is thought of as "1 entity" made of cells/tissues - has a consciousness/ operates the body through neurotransmitters.

well I was thinking, each individual "consciousness", if you will, is like a separate neurotransmitter. and the collective of all this consciousness, well is the ALL mind - the universal consciousness, of "god", if you will. or it in itself is the definition of a "god".

maybe each planet has one. maybe each universe has one, I don't know (*but if each individual has one, then logic will tell you that since everything is fractal, there will be higher forms of this same thing). I thought it was a cool idea though and wanted to share it with you

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12150350 - 03/05/10 06:56 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

This is always a cute one.

I think the analogy holds up a little better if you consider humans as the analogue to neurons instead of neurotransmitters, and instead consider human actions as the neurotransmitters.


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12150383 - 03/05/10 07:05 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, another good analogy that I like, I think Chinacat said it first, is that we're all droplets of rain falling toward an ocean.  We all think we're individual droplets, but when we hit the ocean we become one.











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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Learyfan]
    #12150406 - 03/05/10 07:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

well yeah it's all the same idea. i've had the idea for years, but just came up with a new metaphor

..so to speak :getstoned:


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12150414 - 03/05/10 07:10 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

jwh deffo counts!!

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Spiderbaby]
    #12150429 - 03/05/10 07:13 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

makes sense.

sorta.


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Spiderbaby]
    #12150438 - 03/05/10 07:14 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yeah I get some awesome ideas with jwh :blazed:


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12150441 - 03/05/10 07:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Envix said:
I just thought of this idea. and I'm not on drugs either (well except jwh&caffeine. but that doesn't count)

just as the brain is thought of as "1 entity" made of cells/tissues - has a consciousness/ operates the body through neurotransmitters.

well I was thinking, each individual "consciousness", if you will, is like a separate neurotransmitter. and the collective of all this consciousness, well is the ALL mind - the universal consciousness, of "god", if you will. or it in itself is the definition of a "god".

maybe each planet has one. maybe each universe has one, I don't know (*but if each individual has one, then logic will tell you that since everything is fractal, there will be higher forms of this same thing). I thought it was a cool idea though and wanted to share it with you

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didn't understand OP.


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Neuron]
    #12150450 - 03/05/10 07:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

c'mon, Neuron. I'm comparing the brain to collective consciousness (the sum of all consciousness).


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Neuron] * 1
    #12150454 - 03/05/10 07:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

:haha:


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12150467 - 03/05/10 07:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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c'mon, Neuron. I'm comparing the brain to collective consciousness (the sum of all consciousness).




your OP was poorly written, couldn't understand it.


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Neuron]
    #12150513 - 03/05/10 07:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

how can you listen to michio kaku constantly and not have already heard of this?

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: morrowasted]
    #12150532 - 03/05/10 07:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12150542 - 03/05/10 07:40 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
how can you listen to michio kaku constantly and not have already heard of this?




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well i've had the idea for years, but just came up with a new metaphor

..so to speak :getstoned:




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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12150726 - 03/05/10 08:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I just thought of this idea. and I'm not on drugs either (well except jwh&caffeine. but that doesn't count)

just as the brain is thought of as "1 entity" made of cells/tissues - has a consciousness/ operates the body through neurotransmitters.

well I was thinking, each individual "consciousness", if you will, is like a separate neurotransmitter. and the collective of all this consciousness, well is the ALL mind - the universal consciousness, of "god", if you will. or it in itself is the definition of a "god".

maybe each planet has one. maybe each universe has one, I don't know (*but if each individual has one, then logic will tell you that since everything is fractal, there will be higher forms of this same thing). I thought it was a cool idea though and wanted to share it with you

:happyweed:



I thought of this when I was 15. No offense. :shrug:


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: twihigh]
    #12150738 - 03/05/10 08:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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twihigh said:
Quote:

Envix said:
I just thought of this idea. and I'm not on drugs either (well except jwh&caffeine. but that doesn't count)

just as the brain is thought of as "1 entity" made of cells/tissues - has a consciousness/ operates the body through neurotransmitters.

well I was thinking, each individual "consciousness", if you will, is like a separate neurotransmitter. and the collective of all this consciousness, well is the ALL mind - the universal consciousness, of "god", if you will. or it in itself is the definition of a "god".

maybe each planet has one. maybe each universe has one, I don't know (*but if each individual has one, then logic will tell you that since everything is fractal, there will be higher forms of this same thing). I thought it was a cool idea though and wanted to share it with you

:happyweed:



I thought of this when I was 15. No offense. :shrug:




He just said TWICE that this thought came about years ago. Ya nut
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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: DeadHearts]
    #12150748 - 03/05/10 08:30 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

twihigh said:
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Envix said:
I just thought of this idea. and I'm not on drugs either (well except jwh&caffeine. but that doesn't count)

just as the brain is thought of as "1 entity" made of cells/tissues - has a consciousness/ operates the body through neurotransmitters.

well I was thinking, each individual "consciousness", if you will, is like a separate neurotransmitter. and the collective of all this consciousness, well is the ALL mind - the universal consciousness, of "god", if you will. or it in itself is the definition of a "god".

maybe each planet has one. maybe each universe has one, I don't know (*but if each individual has one, then logic will tell you that since everything is fractal, there will be higher forms of this same thing). I thought it was a cool idea though and wanted to share it with you

:happyweed:



I thought of this when I was 15. No offense. :shrug:




He just said TWICE that this thought came about years ago. Ya nut
sack.



Sorry. I am slow. It is brilliant- I think of this everyday. :awesomenod:


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: twihigh]
    #12150751 - 03/05/10 08:30 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yeah it was more about the comparison to a human brain than the underlying concept


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12150763 - 03/05/10 08:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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yeah it was more about the comparison to a human brain than the underlying concept



The mind is just your own universe- the universe is just another mind.


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: twihigh]
    #12150781 - 03/05/10 08:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

or that each planet is a separate mind.
the ones with no life are dead planets. or unborn planets. etc.


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12150788 - 03/05/10 08:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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or that each planet is a separate mind.
the ones with no life are dead planets. or unborn planets. etc.




But when we die we become part of the universal mind?

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: DeadHearts]
    #12150816 - 03/05/10 08:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

or the planetary mind. or the galactic mind :awecid:


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12150831 - 03/05/10 08:44 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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or the planetary mind. or the galactic mind :awecid:




But what happens when the planets cease to exist?

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12150836 - 03/05/10 08:45 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i believe - in this metaphore when you die you are nonfunctional.
A neuron or transmitter does not continue in any meaningful way after it dies.

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: DeadHearts]
    #12150837 - 03/05/10 08:45 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

humans die and return to the planetary mind. planets die and return to the galactic mind. galaxies die and return to the universal mind :awecid:

let me go do more drugs. and I'll come back with some more cool ideas


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: flugelizor]
    #12150849 - 03/05/10 08:49 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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i believe - in this metaphore when you die you are nonfunctional.
A neuron or transmitter does not continue in any meaningful way after it dies.




This has crossed my mind as well. Its a rough pill to swallow
but if theres nothing it does not matter anyways. So all I can
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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: DeadHearts]
    #12150870 - 03/05/10 08:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I don't want to start any heavy debate here, but I have always found it strange that most people think of death as a higher state of conciousness than sleep

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: flugelizor]
    #12150892 - 03/05/10 09:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

of course your 3rd dimensional body dies.

but how much knowledge have you of higher dimensions?

I think of the body as having multiple dimension.
mostly in part by our ability to comprehend time and thangs that have happened in time.

scientists have no idea how memory works.
maybe higher dimensions are the key to this.


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12150896 - 03/05/10 09:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Envix said:
I just thought of this idea. and I'm not on drugs either (well except jwh&caffeine. but that doesn't count)

just as the brain is thought of as "1 entity" made of cells/tissues - has a consciousness/ operates the body through neurotransmitters.

well I was thinking, each individual "consciousness", if you will, is like a separate neurotransmitter. and the collective of all this consciousness, well is the ALL mind - the universal consciousness, of "god", if you will. or it in itself is the definition of a "god".

maybe each planet has one. maybe each universe has one, I don't know (*but if each individual has one, then logic will tell you that since everything is fractal, there will be higher forms of this same thing). I thought it was a cool idea though and wanted to share it with you

:happyweed:




You are the "I".

There is no "I".

The "I" has many variables it can play, but the I can never go beyond itself.

the "I" is always subject to change. There is no "our" in "I"

Once the "I" is gone, the only thing is left is......

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: feifen]
    #12150907 - 03/05/10 09:04 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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feifen said:the I can never go beyond itself



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feifen said:
Once the "I" is gone, the only thing is left is......



would you say this in a dream?


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12150913 - 03/05/10 09:06 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Envix said:
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feifen said:
Once the "I" is gone, the only thing is left is......



would you say this in a dream?




I can't tell you what this is.

I can't tell you what I know

All I can tell you is I REALLY WANT SOME HAMBURGERS MAN :kingcrankey:

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12151724 - 03/06/10 12:00 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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scientists have no idea how memory works.
maybe higher dimensions are the key to this.




:facepalm: Just because you're not educated nor up to date with current science on memory; we know the fundamentals of how memory works. Lols I love how ppl with a community college education have the highest of egos.


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12151727 - 03/06/10 12:02 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Envix said:

scientists have no idea how memory works.
maybe higher dimensions are the key to this.




:facepalm: Just because you're not educated nor up to date with current science on memory doesn't make it nonexistant; Lols I love how ppl with a community college education have the highest of egos.


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Neuron]
    #12151737 - 03/06/10 12:09 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

we have large egos, what can I say :shrug:

:lol: chillax bro i don't actually believe any of this.
you didn't read the disclaimer, did you  :nonono:

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12151742 - 03/06/10 12:12 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, whatever.


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Neuron]
    #12151750 - 03/06/10 12:16 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

so, neuron, i havent read the thread but i am curious

do you believe consciousness originates somewhere inside of the brain or as a result of brain function?

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: morrowasted]
    #12151756 - 03/06/10 12:18 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

it's all around you


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: morrowasted]
    #12151760 - 03/06/10 12:19 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I believe that consciousness is directly correlated with brain function. I haven't studied animal cognition yet, so I don't have enough knowledge to speak more on this.


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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Neuron]
    #12151761 - 03/06/10 12:19 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I was just thinkin about this subject. Its like the evolution of consciousness when we started off thousands, and thousands of years ago there was no collective consciousness to speak off.

We were all seperate entities there was nothing connecting us. Then language started to develop, and as it evolved to connect us more and more certian ideals and mannerism's start to take root in this collective pool of thoughts, and ideas, and it all snowballs into this seperate yet universally connected entity.

Now with the advent of things like cellphones and the internet we can contact and swap ideas and thoughts with almost anyone in the world at anytime about anything, and the collective whole is becoming more, and more defined, and real so much so that its starting to change the world as a whole.

Its got to the point where the collective consciousness makes you. Our minds all run of the blueprint of culture. This culture is a collective entity that makes you who you are in a sense it is you. It creates all your thinking processes and thought patterns. Yet you create it or add to it at the same time how every miniscule your addition may be it does have a effect on it.

If that makes any sense at all :shrug:

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Neuron]
    #12151767 - 03/06/10 12:21 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

lern2use commas. But besides grammar, that was well written for being high :P. EDIT: It made perfect sense, though, some comma usage would have prevented eye strain when reading it.


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    #12151769 - 03/06/10 12:22 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I just thought of this idea. and I'm not on drugs either (well except jwh&caffeine. but that doesn't count)

just as the brain is thought of as "1 entity" made of cells/tissues - has a consciousness/ operates the body through neurotransmitters.

well I was thinking, each individual "consciousness", if you will, is like a separate neurotransmitter. and the collective of all this consciousness, well is the ALL mind - the universal consciousness, of "god", if you will. or it in itself is the definition of a "god".

maybe each planet has one. maybe each universe has one, I don't know (*but if each individual has one, then logic will tell you that since everything is fractal, there will be higher forms of this same thing). I thought it was a cool idea though and wanted to share it with you

:happyweed:




didn't understand OP.




what's not to understand?

I understood it just by the title of the thread


there's nothing to think about really. I guess that's why I understand it; I didn't even think about it.

In fact, I only skimmed through the post; He could have just said "dude" and I probably would have gotten the point.


Everything is lost in translation when you focus too much on the details.

Even on the :seriousbusiness:, sometimes you can just see past the words, to what a person is really saying.


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    #12151774 - 03/06/10 12:24 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I try to stay as far from philosophy as possible- the subject matter pisses me off.

I'm into hard science, and the OP made zero sense through my mindset.


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    #12151780 - 03/06/10 12:26 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

the body dies= the brain dies= the mind dies= consciousness dies.

or

the body dies=the brain dies= the mind is of another dimension

the mind is the sum of all, concentrated. into one observer.

I'm on drugs.

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Everything is lost in translation when you focus too much on the details.



this is exactly the message i got when i took mescaline. like freakin' verbatim.

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the bizzle said:Even on the :seriousbusiness:, sometimes you can just see past the words, to what a person is really saying.



and that is called telepathy :mckenna:


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    #12151788 - 03/06/10 12:29 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I believe the ancient wisdom traditions and the most cutting edge theoretical sciences all point to consciousness being the origin of reality, and not vice versa

Look around you. Look at the computer in front of you. Do you think that computer is still there the same way it was when you are not looking at it?

The answer is no. There is no definite reality outside of what is being consciously observed or brought in front of consciousness.

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    #12151789 - 03/06/10 12:31 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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the mind is the sum of all, concentrated. into one observer.





Lay off the drugs brah. You place WAY too much value on the human mind. There is much that the human mind doesn't know, and therefore, "the sum of all" is impossible.


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    #12151794 - 03/06/10 12:32 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

perhaps you're right :poshdance:


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    #12151801 - 03/06/10 12:35 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I like to to think of humans as no different than animals. The only thing that really distinguishes us is our intelligence.

Culture and society are by-products of our intelligence. We are no greater than animals, and weak enough to need religion to "keep us in check"--the majority, I mean.

oh and lol, I'm not a vegetarian. I just think it's important for one to be self-critical of his/her environment/species/self, etc. in order to better understand ourselves. Our ego is good at throwing a curtain over what really is.


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    #12151847 - 03/06/10 12:51 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Well, considering that the Universe is H U G E! Like, trillions of lightyears wide HUGE and if we are indeed the Nuerotransmitters of the Great Beyond, that means the Universe is just barely as smart as a worm....

I mean, considering how little matter is in the Universe, and how infinitely infinitisal our physical prescence is in the Incompressihensible Universe, the Universe doesn't look so smart....

But it is interesting that the nueral network looks like those theorical models of the Universe (its impossible to map the entire Universe, its just too damn big). I seen you post those photos, and they are pretty cool, but I think its a stretch because our knowledge of the Universe beyond our tiny planet is so limited.....

But if I was tripping on Mushrooms, I would be like "Whoa! I understand the Universe/Mind metaphor now! Its so crazy! Its God's Metaphor of the Universe in our Brain maN! W H O A!". But since I'm sober, I think its a stretch, but interesting....

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Neuron]
    #12151851 - 03/06/10 12:52 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Well, I try to stay as far from philosophy as possible- the subject matter pisses me off.

I'm into hard science, and the OP made zero sense through my mindset.




you see, that's the thang. It's not philosophy, really...it's just doin thangs


I also dislike philosophy, it's just a bunch of :deepman: debating with :deepman:


all complex concepts derived from the ego, in one way or another


but ultimately, it's too strange to be explained




hard science, you say? I guess I'm more into gut feelings, doin thangs, :etbig:, :awetrippie:, and

but you say it made zero sense? as in, divide by zero sense?


No hard science or philosophy can make the universe happen. And no hard science or philosophy can witness its beauty




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the mind is the sum of all, concentrated. into one observer.





Lay off the drugs brah. You place WAY too much value on the human mind. There is much that the human mind doesn't know, and therefore, "the sum of all" is impossible.




And yet you don't understand what he means, because you are thinking about it far too logically. Of course there is much the human mind doesn't know


Don't listen to him Envix, I was going to post about how you bring much needed doin thangs around here.



Use hard science to explain what i mean by "doin thangs is doin thangs."

you might think that is stupid in one way or another, but



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    #12151852 - 03/06/10 12:52 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Well, considering that the Universe is H U G E! Like, trillions of lightyears wide HUGE and if we are indeed the Nuerotransmitters of the Great Beyond, that means the Universe is just barely as smart as a worm....

I mean, considering how little matter is in the Universe, and how infinitely infinitisal our physical prescence is in the Incompressihensible Universe, the Universe doesn't look so smart....

But it is interesting that the nueral network looks like those theorical models of the Universe (its impossible to map the entire Universe, its just too damn big). I seen you post those photos, and they are pretty cool, but I think its a stretch because our knowledge of the Universe beyond our tiny planet is so limited.....

But if I was tripping on Mushrooms, I would be like "Whoa! I understand the Universe/Mind metaphor now! Its so crazy! Its God's Metaphor of the Universe in our Brain maN! W H O A!". But since I'm sober, I think its a stretch, but interesting....

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Neuron]
    #12151856 - 03/06/10 12:54 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I like to to think of humans as no different than animals. The only thing that really distinguishes us is our intelligence.

Culture and society are by-products of our intelligence. We are no greater than animals, and weak enough to need religion to "keep us in check"--the majority, I mean.

oh and lol, I'm not a vegetarian. I just think it's important for one to be self-critical of his/her environment/species/self, etc. in order to better understand ourselves. Our ego is good at throwing a curtain over what really is.



kind of sad that this is the state of intellectualism today

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    #12151857 - 03/06/10 12:54 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I love how everyone copied IAMSWIM's style of posting, or "DOIN' THANGS" under their "title".

cuz it's SO hard to be original, lulz


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    #12151887 - 03/06/10 01:01 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Fail.




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    #12151890 - 03/06/10 01:02 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I love how everyone copied IAMSWIM's style of posting, or "DOIN' THANGS" under their "title".

cuz it's SO hard to be original, lulz




I guess it's much easier to separate yourself from what you are, which is everything that isn't you


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    #12151909 - 03/06/10 01:05 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Fail.




Explain.

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Because your post doesn't make any sense, and you're assuming that life beyond earth is nonexistant. You also can't spell for shit(e.g. neurotransmitter, presence, incomprehensible) and you're pointlessly redundant with what you say.

Anyways...........I'm clocking out for the night. I forgot how "unseriosussness the shroomery realy was n i thank i was poasitng with intent for intelectual convursatin but clearly is impossibel


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    #12151946 - 03/06/10 01:12 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

You what the best part of that post is?........Your name is Neuron!

And your sig has a photo of a conceptual X-rayed Human Brain!!  :ilold:

Doesn't get better than that! :awesome::thumbup: 

Thanks for the laugh Mr. Neuron,
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    #12151981 - 03/06/10 01:22 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Neuron said:
Fail.




Explain.

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Because your post doesn't make any sense, and you're assuming that life beyond earth is nonexistant. You also can't spell for shit(e.g. neurotransmitter, presence, incomprehensible) and you're pointlessly redundant with what you say.

Anyways...........I'm clocking out for the night. I forgot how "unseriosussness the shroomery realy was n i thank i was poasitng with intent for intelectual convursatin but clearly is impossibel




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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Neuron]
    #12151987 - 03/06/10 01:24 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

actually Neuron gave me the idea for this thread :wink:


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I like to to think of humans as no different than animals. The only thing that really distinguishes us is our intelligence.



define "intelligence" plz. (also, i agree with you)


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I mean, considering how little PERCIEVED matter there is in the Universe this dimension, and how infinitely infinitisal our physical prescence is in the Incompressihensible Universe, the Universe doesn't look so smart the universe is unknown....




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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: Envix]
    #12152009 - 03/06/10 01:33 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Well, if you're going that route, than this is a philosopical debate, because what can't be observed is neither provable or disprovable with science, but with thought-experiments, its so easy! What we can't see is actually there, we just can't see! That's was easy, wasn't it?

The Universe is just a big Mind! That's easy. But to say that planets (including the ones without life, like the ones *very* close to Red Giant Stars), nebulas and stars have their own intelligence, and are all interconnected to make a "Universal Mind", how would you explain that?

But I like Philosophy, even if its all just "in the mind" and unprovable. So, what was the reason why planets have their own mind? And how do you explain "dark matter", which is both non-observable and theorical in science...is that the fluid that the "Universe's brain" floats in?

And what is gravity in this brain metaphor? The force that pulls all together and crashes things into eachother?

And what about gamma rays, heat, or any part of the electromagnetic specturm? Where does that fit in this metaphor?

And if planets are actually "living with a brain", what does that mean for us? Are we just another planet, or does our planet have a "Collective conscious" that is possible of being self-aware of the Universe around it? How can we measure the Earth's intelligence, the combined "smartness" of people and animals then plus the Earth's "Mind"? 

How far does it go?
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    #12152031 - 03/06/10 01:41 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

it's really quite simple:

doin thangs is doin thangs


the night will live forever, but must die before the morning

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    #12152036 - 03/06/10 01:43 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

oh. I forgot to add this picture :facepalm3:



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    #12152074 - 03/06/10 01:54 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Edit wow now that im sober THIS makes no sense at all :lmafo:
                      \/  \/  \/  \/



Now each planet has its collective consciousness of the native lifeforms, Combine that with every other planet or source of life in the universe. And the way they are all connected is through the common experience of there existance really the collective consciousness of the universe is the life that pulses in every sentient aware being that exists. We are all living breathing thinking all at the same time every second of every day of every year collectivly we all experience this universe as one, and its this experience of our own existance that is the collective consciousness.


Its all memories mang.































Oh and im really stoned and was just tryin to come up with a answer to your question :rofl:
the last part anyways.

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    #12152728 - 03/06/10 08:48 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Well, considering that the Universe is H U G E! Like, trillions of lightyears wide HUGE and if we are indeed the Nuerotransmitters of the Great Beyond, that means the Universe is just barely as smart as a worm....

I mean, considering how little matter is in the Universe, and how infinitely infinitisal our physical prescence is in the Incompressihensible Universe, the Universe doesn't look so smart....

But it is interesting that the nueral network looks like those theorical models of the Universe (its impossible to map the entire Universe, its just too damn big). I seen you post those photos, and they are pretty cool, but I think its a stretch because our knowledge of the Universe beyond our tiny planet is so limited.....

But if I was tripping on Mushrooms, I would be like "Whoa! I understand the Universe/Mind metaphor now! Its so crazy! Its God's Metaphor of the Universe in our Brain maN! W H O A!". But since I'm sober, I think its a stretch, but interesting....

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What about the unconceivable amount of other universes :awesomenod:
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I believe the ancient wisdom traditions and the most cutting edge theoretical sciences all point to consciousness being the origin of reality, and not vice versa

Look around you. Look at the computer in front of you. Do you think that computer is still there the same way it was when you are not looking at it?

The answer is no. There is no definite reality outside of what is being consciously observed or brought in front of consciousness.



I'm actually using a laptop. :shrug:
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oh. I forgot to add this picture :facepalm3:





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    #12154071 - 03/06/10 01:55 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Or:

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/vs_ramachandran_the_neurons_that_shaped_civilization.html
(same video)




Thanks for this post, I finally understand this thread and what it's about. If only this was posted on page one by OP, :P.


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Or:

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/vs_ramachandran_the_neurons_that_shaped_civilization.html
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Thanks for this post, I finally understand this thread and what it's about. If only this was posted on page one by OP, :P.




I really dont see how you could have missed the point :shrug:

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Re: We Are All Neurotransmitters - in the Universal Mind [Re: DeadHearts]
    #12154636 - 03/06/10 03:56 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I guess I'm just not much of an abstract thinker :P.


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