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OfflineMushyMay
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Re: Progress Report [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1343214 - 02/28/03 02:14 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I didn't say you can't defend yourself, you just have to do it without firearms :smile: 


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Re: Progress Report [Re: MushyMay]
    #1343218 - 02/28/03 02:15 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

same thing....


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OfflineMushyMay
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Re: Progress Report [Re: MushyMay]
    #1352922 - 03/05/03 02:23 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know what happened to this game, maybe everyone has given up on it??

Here is my second principle anyway:

-The government will not use propaganda to brainwash its own citizens (this fits in with the total transparency of state.)


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Re: Progress Report [Re: MushyMay]
    #1353027 - 03/05/03 03:40 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I am in complete and total control


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Re: Progress Report [Re: ]
    #1353858 - 03/06/03 04:07 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

i'd use my veto power if you try to be in control.. :smirk:


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Re: Progress Report [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1354014 - 03/06/03 05:13 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

aw, come on... i'll do a good job, i promise. trust me.... ?


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Offlinepsilo25
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Re: Progress Report [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1354022 - 03/06/03 05:16 AM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Come on, I don't think mushmaster wouldn't make such a bad leader.  Maybe he'd give us all some of those mushrooms he's got there in his avatar! :wink: 


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Re: Progress Report [Re: ]
    #1432660 - 04/05/03 11:04 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

> I am in complete and total control

Prove it


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Re: Progress Report [Re: Anonymous]
    #1432895 - 04/06/03 01:23 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

In the interest of flexibility for changing times and situations, all laws and amendments shall be reviewed on a regular basis (4 years?) for constitutionality, efficiency, and applicability . Those that are found to be in violation shall be submitted for debate for the purpose of amending or repealing.


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Re: Progress Report [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1432899 - 04/06/03 01:25 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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In the interest of flexibility for changing times and situations, all laws and amendments shall be reviewed on a regular basis (4 years?) for constitutionality, efficiency, and applicability . Those that are found to be in violation shall be submitted for debate for the purpose of amending or repealing.



This would repeal my second amendment RKBA under democrat review at some point. Veto.


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Re: Progress Report [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1432908 - 04/06/03 01:37 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Or it might repeal any laws that infringe on it. How can anything that does not allow for changing times survive.

There should be a second required for new submissions and vetoes to avoid frivolous additions and vetoes.



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Re: Progress Report [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1432944 - 04/06/03 03:06 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

The bill of rights does not need to change over time. My veto was not frivilous.

I propose to adopt the US bill of rights in their entirety along with another amendment to prohibit narcotic prohibition.


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Re: Progress Report [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1432991 - 04/06/03 03:57 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I thought we were creating a constitution and therefor not subject to change. Only subsequent laws and amendments after a ratified constitution. How about if subsequent laws and amendments expire after ten years if not repassed. I'm trying to eliminate clutter without creating too much overhead.

I didn't necessarily mean that your veto was frivolous (although it made me think of it), I just think seconds are a important part of the process.


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Re: Progress Report [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1432993 - 04/06/03 04:01 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Amendments become a ratified part of the constitution. The review process shouldn't apply to the consitution itslf unless you want a whole new constitutional convention every X years.


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Re: Progress Report [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1433012 - 04/06/03 04:37 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

So we will end up with a bunch of old useless law over time the same as we have now. Ok, we'll need lots of lawyers to sort it out.


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Re: Progress Report [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1433015 - 04/06/03 04:40 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

So we will end up with a bunch of old useless law over time the same as we have now. Ok, we'll need lots of lawyers to sort it out.



That would be bad. I have a solution though.

I propose that the lawyers be kept in cages in Cuba.


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Re: Progress Report [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1433022 - 04/06/03 04:50 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

None the less, a constitution that can't evolve is doomed. Ability to change according to the will of the people is important part of democracy. Otherwise you might as well have a dictatorship.


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Re: Progress Report [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1433024 - 04/06/03 04:55 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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None the less, a constitution that can't evolve is doomed. Ability to change according to the will of the people is important part of democracy. Otherwise you might as well have a dictatorship.



Bunk. We're not making a democracy, we're making a constitutional republic.


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Re: Progress Report [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1433033 - 04/06/03 05:44 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Progress Report [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1433422 - 04/06/03 12:17 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

if he doesn't veto it, i will.  :smirk:


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