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#12127811 - 03/02/10 01:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, but I trust the good advice I've gotten from all of you and wanted to ask about something that happened last night.
My husband and I forgot to lock the door to our apartment last night, and while we were sleeping someone came in and left the door open. They didn't take anything, just aparently came in and left. Totally random. This prompted someone else to call the cops, and they woke us up at 5:30 this morning to see what was going on. Now, because we never do anything that would prompt cops to show up and because we only have one person who ever comes over, I had my shotgun fc (with 2 almost spent b+ poo cakes), mini mono, and oyster log in the front dining area, where the cops were when they came in. They thought that the door being open meant that we had opened it for them, and they came into the living room. I was still upstairs, but I heard them ask my husband about our pets that we have in that room, then ask him what was in the tubs. He told them that I'm perfecting my oyster mushroom growing technique so I can sell at the farmers market, which is true. They seemed to accept that, and after I talked to them for a sec they went about their business. Luckily my oyster log was there and none of the cubes were fruiting. However, I didn't have time to clean up my grain jars after my last spawn, and those were in that room as well.
I'm just wondering how worried I should be about this. I got rid of the almost spent cakes and moved the mini mono upstairs. If the cops were in any way knowledgeable about growing mushrooms it would have been obvious to them what was going on, but I'm not sure how much the average cop would know about that, and if it would look suspicious to them. Do you think this is something they'll make a note of, or keep in mind as possible drug growing? Or am I being paranoid?
As always, thanks for your advice.

 
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Sanguine]
#12127826 - 03/02/10 01:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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i would argue that without seeing any illegal species of fruiting mushrooms the police have nothing they can go off of even if they wanted to obtain a warrant. just my thoughts..
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Re: Cop questions [Re: prismism]
#12127860 - 03/02/10 01:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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That would have me paranoid. I would get rid of any active myc or mushrooms containing psilocin or psilocybin at least for a little while. Better to be safe than sorry. I would give it a few months.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: prismism]
#12127894 - 03/02/10 01:52 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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It sounds like they had no idea that anything illegal was happening, especially since you had oysters going at the same time and your husband provided a reasonable explanation. I wouldn't worry about it.
Also, if push does come to shove (and, like I said above, I really don't think you'll ever hear about this again), there were some legal issues with their entry and "search".
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Crushed] 1
#12127923 - 03/02/10 01:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would probably be more paranoid about someone coming in while I was sleeping. Better get rid of your toothbrush and don't forget about those ass pennies they may have left behind.
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CycleThoughts said: I would probably be more paranoid about someone coming in while I was sleeping. Better get rid of your toothbrush and don't forget about those ass pennies they may have left behind.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: prismism]
#12127956 - 03/02/10 02:04 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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It also depends on what impression you and your husband left. Were the cops down to earth, or were they suspicious? I would be paranoid myself but I'm not sure if you'd have a reason to be worried. You could always build a secret door in your closet or something?
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Crushed]
#12127957 - 03/02/10 02:04 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know a few cops around my town, and if they hear "growing mushrooms", they automatically assume it's hallucinogenic. I told one that I grew legal mushrooms, and he very sternly advised me to stop, because I could get in big trouble just from the confusion. And he's probably right. Regardless of what the law says, cops can still get sticks up their asses and take you to jail. You'll be released when they find out you haven't done anything illegal, but it might cost you some lawyer fees in the meantime. I mean... how often do you meet mushroom growers at the mall? I live in a decent sized town, and even though there's only one store that sells rye berries, buyers are still extremely uncommon there, and I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn that I'm the only buyer growing mushrooms. The cops I know wouldn't have just said, "oh, oysters, we'll leave you alone, then." They would have automatically assumed you were either lying and trying to cover up for illegal mushrooms, or growing both, using the one as a front. I don't want to speak for all cops, but knowing that these all feel the same way, I would assume there are a few others with similar minds. That being the case, better to be safe than sorry. Can you drop the mushrooms for a couple months? Can you have someone else take over your cubes, or something?
Btw, I should also add, that these cops can't distinguish between illegal mushrooms and conks. If it's a fungus, they're suspicious. That said, I also know a couple cops who regularly let potheads they catch go, as long as they aren't driving. I dunno what they'd do about someone with mushrooms, if they aren't selling and aren't driving, they probably wouldn't mind.
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humm personnaly I would too get rid of everything suspicious, on the other hand I think that if they suspected anyhing they would have took care of it on the spot or take a small sample.
it's also very odd that cops would not be educated to recognise a dope growing op.
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Personally i think it all depended on the situation.... how you dealt with it, how much interest they showed, how they reacted and their attitude etc..... however i would probably still be cautious for at least a couple of weeks and as many other people have suggested get rid of any obvious incriminating evidence.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: dicky21]
#12128149 - 03/02/10 02:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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dam i would ahve bugged the fuck out dam that sucks at least they didnt get to into it
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Re: Cop questions [Re: dicky21]
#12128163 - 03/02/10 02:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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If they were going to do anything about it you probably would have known by their reaction at the time. If they were like "Oh, Ok...just wondering what those tubs were for" then went on to another subject after your husband explained what they were I would not worry. I really don't think they would go and ask for a warrant because they saw two tubs that maybe had illegal mushrooms in them. But if you want to play it safe get rid of all your questionable items for the next month or two.
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Thanks for the replies so far. The cops didn't really seem to give a shit, they just seemed confused as to why the door was open and wanted to make sure that everything was ok before they left. They didn't act suspicious, but they weren't all that friendly either and seemed like they just wanted to go. We were pretty worried and alarmed that someone had just come into our house and they seemed more focused on that than anything else, and making sure we weren't lying about being drunk or causing a scene that resulted in the open door and phone call from the neighbor.
I'm definitely paranoid about why someone came into our apartment, too. No one who lives in the complex knows I grow, although we have 2 friends who are neighbors that have eaten some of my mushrooms (they think I know someone who has them). Apparently some kids were skateboarding on the roof of the complex office overnight as well, so I'm hoping it was just some fucked up kids causing trouble and not anyone targeting my place specifically. I will definitely watch out for those ass pennies, lmao
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I would say you're good. If a cop sees zig zags in your house but no bud, and you tell him they are for rolling cigs, you think he is gonna come back with a warrant looking for weed? Doubtful.
You had no illegal fruits, he only saw the tubs, and heard they were oysters. They are not going to get a warrant to look for illegal mushies.
There are processes they would have to go through to get a warrant. In your case, I see them getting that warrant being very difficult.
I'd say you're good.
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i suppose it would be safe to get rid of anything illegal for a few months. just to be safe not sorry. for all you know the cop could have known exactly what he was looking at and just played it off as if he didn't know. and in another scenario maybe they saw your little personal grow and knew it was illegal and flat out didn't give a shit.
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if it were me, i'd be paranoid too... but hearing it from someone else, i actually think it will be alright, otherwise i think you wouldnt be home right now. hope all is good.
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wow dude im glad i lock my door
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thats crazy they had no right to enter
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Sanguine]
#12128410 - 03/02/10 03:06 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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CycleThoughts said: That would have me paranoid. I would get rid of any active myc or mushrooms containing psilocin or psilocybin at least for a little while. Better to be safe than sorry. I would give it a few months.
I agree. Tho they will probably forget about it you would be nothing less than a fool to grow illegal shrooms there for at least the next 6 months. If one of those cops happens to take some cop class on cultivation and remembers you your fucked. At any point if ANY of those cops finds out how they are grown your fucked. Even if they don't have probably cause to search they will make it. You could always risk it, and probably get away with it, but if you had set foot in a federal penitentiary like I have youd know its not something to take lightly. If they come back you and your wife can kiss your assess goodbye. They show no mercy, no forgiveness. They are just as bad as Hitlers SS once they think they can make a dime off you. They will take everything you have, everything you love, and will try their damnedest to make your marriage literally impossible (releasing you to different cities, making it illegal for you to live together because you deal drugs together, etc) Think 1984. Were living it bro. Use caution Anyway in short its MUCH better to be safe than sorry.
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master_silly said: thats crazy they had no right to enter
well someone called them, and the door was open. somebody could have been in danger, cops are also there to protect you
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master_silly said: thats crazy they had no right to enter
youv never been searched by the cops have you? :/
right and warrants are TV movie garbage. In RL they do as they please. They will have a judge get up at 5 in the morning to drive to your damn house to sighn the warrant if they have to. I'v seen it with my own eyes. If they want you they will have you.
also i might add that they dont need your consent to enter an APT just the managers permission whom they usually already have a preexisting arrangement with. Allowing them to enter any APT at any time for any reason.
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+ they were there to help...
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simon418 said: + they were there to help...
Cops don't come to your house to help. EVER. Even if there's a murder. They cone to make money. To arrest someone. Helping people is the last thing on their mind. Trusting them or believing their propaganda is your first step to being caught. It's a sad state of affairs but unfortunately that's what this country has come to.
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for the most part i agree, but there are a FEW good cops out there...they are doing what we pay them to do, so i dont see where bashing them all is doing any good what so ever..
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Re: Cop questions [Re: biologys]
#12128572 - 03/02/10 03:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wouldn't worry bro. If they weren't suspicious at all, then you're good to go. Don't freak yourself out. Maybe as a precautionary, take your grow upstairs and out of the way.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: biologys]
#12128578 - 03/02/10 03:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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biologys said: for the most part i agree, but there are a FEW good cops out there...they are doing what we pay them to do, so i dont see where bashing them all is doing any good what so ever..
Well thats just where our opinions differ. I don't believe there Is such a thing as a good cop. Not in this society. And if they were good when they started they either don't make it or turn evil. Either way I would HATE to see this dude get caught because hes just a hippie like the rest of us tryin to grow some fungus. And I think he should stop till he is sure the heat is off. I mean its only been a day they could be getting a warrant right now. Im rly not trying to be a bummer but man if youv'e ever been on the wrong side of the law you learn not to take chances. Nothings worth being thrown thru the grinder. NOTHING
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i agree with that for the most part as well, done my time, pulled two 6 month periods in jail, which sucked bad..but the way i look at it is, i knew what i was doing was illegal and thats the chance i took, so they just did their jobs
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Re: Cop questions [Re: biologys]
#12128671 - 03/02/10 03:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hmmmm? A few small charges spaced evenly around the door frame should give you some piece of mind! MWAHAHAHAHA! Just kidding!
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Grumpyorc said: also i might add that they dont need your consent to enter an APT just the managers permission whom they usually already have a preexisting arrangement with. Allowing them to enter any APT at any time for any reason.
Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit!
Read the 4th amendment. Rights aren't bullshit, the 4th amendment has saved me from prosecution on numerous occasions, its my favorite amendment next to the 2nd.
A renter of an apartment has the same rights as a home owner. A landlord cannot allow cops into your place, the cops require the RENTER'S permission.
The agreement between a landlord and a renter is just that, between them. It is illegal for a landlord to say otherwise in a lease agreement because they can't dictate your legal rights when it comes to police matters. Also, most lease agreements don't allow a landlord to enter when ever they want, they usually require 24 hours notice before they can enter.
In this case, however, since someone else called the police to report a break-in, and the door was wide open, the cops had the right to enter the apartment to see if any crimes had been or were being committed.
They did not have a right to search, and it seems they didn't. The only thing they can "search" is anything that is visible in plain sight (aka not hidden or in a drawer etc).
Since they saw the FCs and mycelium, they had a right to investigate what it was. Since they were not suspicious of it and didn't take anything for evidence, they probably won't be back.
The chances of them getting a warrant, if that wanted to, would be slim since they don't have any probable cause to believe any crime had been committed. Speculation is not a just reason for a warrant.
If they would have seen/found a pot pipe laying on the table or other area, then they would have just reason to search and seize anything they would have wanted. Since that didn't happen I, again, doubt they will be back.
If you are really worried then simply get rid of anything illegal (or hide it very well) for 30 to 60 days. Most of the time that cops return for some reason, is within 30 days. On the off-hand chance they take longer, I highly doubt it will be past the 60 day mark.
If you have dried mushrooms, hide them well, such as in the back of the cupboard or place them in another food box and tuck it away in the back of a cabinet. Cops don't tend to search very hard until they find something illegal. Once they find that one illegal item, they will tear the place apart looking for more.
Stay cool, and stay clean for at least a month.
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Grumpyorc said: also i might add that they dont need your consent to enter an APT just the managers permission whom they usually already have a preexisting arrangement with. Allowing them to enter any APT at any time for any reason.
I don't believe this is true. Just because they "own" the property doesn't mean they can enter or authorize someone to enter without providing proper legal notice, except in emergency circumstances (flood, fire, etc.). This has been my experience both as a tenant and a landlord, though it was a rental house and not an apartment.
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, I have a hunch someone knew exactly what they were looking for,and there was none to take at the moment.Someone who knows what you have/or may have most likely did it.They know what time you usually go to bed (give or take ),and know it was in the living room where they could slide right in and there it is,just waiting.I assume your front door leads into the living room which is connected to the dinning room.If you fed them to your neighbor fresh,they probably have a suspicion.Chances are,they came for some fungus,and they will probably make another attempt when they think it is time to harvest. As for the PO PO , that is a dilemma.I say 50/50.To be safe,as already suggested,quit for a month or two.But , then again, why wouldn't they have just investigated the tubs while they were in the home w/ probable cause.What a shitty situation.I would be paranoid too sweetheart.Be safe.For the next month or two ,be perceptive w/ everything and everybody around your place.Try to read the initial body language of the friends who know,and those neighbors who "munched",and also notice out of place vehicles/persons.Just by their body language ,you may be able to tell if it was someone you know.Don't go too crazy w/ the paranoia.I hope you are alright all in all.
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I understand why there's a strong anti-cop vibe on this forum, but it's simply this: cops are asses. It's a side effect of dealing with people on a daily basis who at worst are actively trying to kill you, and at best, simply hate your guts.
It's true, the police business attracts a lot of bullies, but most cops join the force because they want to help people and develop that psychic cop wall because they don't know if that next person they talk to will end up being a criminal/try to kill them.
I've worked out with a number of cops. They're decent guys if you meet them outside of the job, if a little cockier and more clannish than most.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: kiyote]
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In Texas cops get shot for entering houses like that..
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I believe you're fine...cops generally have much larger fish to fry and things to worry about than a couple nice people growing a few mushrooms
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Cops don't really care about anything besides getting off work and going home to wack off to internet porn. And about somebody coming into your apartment, it could have been somebody walking into your home because they thought it was theirs.....
but it's not like I've ever done that....
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Re: Cop questions [Re: ambargh]
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Blimey is correct in this and he put it quite well. Now i know it was a mistake on your part to keep the door unlocked but i really think you should have alittle stealth with the illegals I'm not saying a padlocked hidden room with lasers but not in the living room I'm in no way preaching but i would hate to hear a horror story about a fellow shroomerite getting in trouble just for having something out in the open.So just keep yourself and your husband safe I wish you good vibes
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Sanguine]
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You never tell the cops ANYTHING, PERIOD. If they have to ask about something, it's because they don't know and them not knowing is what you want.
Watch this:
"Don't Talk to Cops, Part 2"
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Re: Cop questions [Re: sansa]
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sansa said: You never tell the cops ANYTHING, PERIOD. If they have to ask about something, it's because they don't know and them not knowing is what you want.
Watch this:
"Don't Talk to Cops, Part 2"
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CycleThoughts said: That would have me paranoid. I would get rid of any active myc or mushrooms containing psilocin or psilocybin at least for a little while. Better to be safe than sorry. I would give it a few months.
I agree. Tho they will probably forget about it you would be nothing less than a fool to grow illegal shrooms there for at least the next 6 months. If one of those cops happens to take some cop class on cultivation and remembers you your fucked. At any point if ANY of those cops finds out how they are grown your fucked. Even if they don't have probably cause to search they will make it. You could always risk it, and probably get away with it, but if you had set foot in a federal penitentiary like I have youd know its not something to take lightly. If they come back you and your wife can kiss your assess goodbye. They show no mercy, no forgiveness. They are just as bad as Hitlers SS once they think they can make a dime off you. They will take everything you have, everything you love, and will try their damnedest to make your marriage literally impossible (releasing you to different cities, making it illegal for you to live together because you deal drugs together, etc) Think 1984. Were living it bro. Use caution Anyway in short its MUCH better to be safe than sorry.
True. They don't give a fuck about ruining your life over a few ounces of mushrooms you're going to consume yourself. Yet a woman sent a man to jail for 4 years over phony rape charges and she gets 1-3 years in prison. It's amazing how brainwashed police are over drugs. They'll gladly drive drunk though, even on duty, which happened near me recently. The cop crashed into another person and sent their car off the road. Luckily he's been suspended without pay.
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There are so many point to touch on. First off I'll preface by saying I know a thing or two about jail time, with that in mind I am a realist and more than a few cops do that job because they want to help in one way or another. Not that it really applies to this situation. However if they cam in to your apt to find you and the misses held at gun point being robbed by someone you would have sure been happy they did show up. I doubt they saw the open door and thought, oh look an opening to fuck with someone. But, sure there is a large mass or kids that got picked on, became cops and now fuck with everyne they can.
The biggest thing is who was in your house. If it was someone looking for your grow, they will definately be back.
As for the cop situation, holy fuck what an akward moment! I would definately be safe about it and chill out fr the next couple of months. Just in case. I think the word mushroom does in general raise eyebrows and maybe they didn't know exactly what it was but they do have to fill out reports about what they saw and waht happened.
I hope all your problems turn out ok. In the mean time, grow outside of your home and lock the door!
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Id be much more paranoid about the people that I didnt know coming into my house than those cops. The cops obviously showed very little interest, but what about the person(s) that came in? I hate to make you paranoid, but its what id personally be thinking about.
Most cops in my area arent very anti-drug, though they tend to make exceptions for meth and prescription medication =P. But as far as pot and other soft shit, I cant even recall seeing someone arrested for it in the newspapers in the last 6 months. Sometimes people get shit for driving stoned, but thats to be expected =P Maybe its the rural area though *shrug*
I know some cops, most are friendly, a few are rambo hardasses who go home a masturbate to cop movies though lol. The biggest assholes around here tend to be the state guys, most of the county cops are chill as fuck. But I would atleast move everything to a better location considering your circumstances, not because of the cops, but because of the people.
If the cops truely believed you were growing illegal drugs, they would have said something right then and there. You would have been interrogated, and some of your mycelium (if not all of it) would have been sent off to labs. Fuck your rights, anyone who believes that load of garbage is naive. Yes your rights can protect you, if you can afford some expensive ass lawyer who will actually give a rats ass about your case. Other than that, kiss your rights goodbye =P.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Kysmoker]
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To point out the obvious, the cops were already there and saw what was going on and didnt have any clue, the door was open and the neighbors called the cops beause there was a strange person entering your house, they came the door was opened, that WILL fly in court as lawfull entry, if they wanted to bust you or had any concept of what was going on you wouldn'nt be typing this right now, on the other hand they also saw you growing mushrooms, depending on your priors or your husbands priors they might take note of it and might harrass you a bit more, depending on large your town/city is, warrants take minutes to seconds, not days, and its well known info that they can and do lie all the time, to get around a warrant or reason to pull someone over, hell, watch the TV show DEA on spike tv, they very openly admit on many episodes that they make up false reasons for entering a home or pulling a car over, so to end my rant you'll be fine, lock your doors, and dont drive dirty for a couple months to years, youll be alright.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Montock]
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Hey sorry to hear that man, i know having paranoia ,while trying to further this hobby, really sucks, but i think if they were suspicious of anything they would have been more aggressive and pressed the issue when they were at your home.(andve probably started acting like assholes) if these guys were just run of the mill cops id think you would have noticed if they were suspicious of you. (pending on where you live) id also think the cops would have better things to do then over thinking about some jars and some shit in plastic Tupperware.
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i think someone tried to rob ur tubs . if your telling the wrong people, word will get around to the wrong people. the worst that could have happened is that he checked to see what was growing and even if the cop saw some magic mushrooms growing. u could tell him they are edible and not hallucinogenic and ask him if he is a mushroom expert and has time to take it to court.unless you would rather break down and confess. but you said you had nothing fruiting so thats good.
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shroomhelp13 said: i think someone tried to rob ur tubs . if your telling the wrong people, word will get around to the wrong people. the worst that could have happened is that he checked to see what was growing and even if the cop saw some magic mushrooms growing. u could tell him they are edible and not hallucinogenic and ask him if he is a mushroom expert and has time to take it to court.unless you would rather break down and confess. but you said you had nothing fruiting so thats good.
why you would be telling ANYONE about this hobby is complete fail.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Montock]
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shroomhelp13 said: i think someone tried to rob ur tubs . if your telling the wrong people, word will get around to the wrong people. the worst that could have happened is that he checked to see what was growing and even if the cop saw some magic mushrooms growing. u could tell him they are edible and not hallucinogenic and ask him if he is a mushroom expert and has time to take it to court.unless you would rather break down and confess. but you said you had nothing fruiting so thats good.
why you would be telling ANYONE about this hobby is complete fail.
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I'd be pretty paranoid man..
But cops aren't mushroom cultivators. And when my friends talk to me about my oysters and shiitakes they seem totally clueless and would have no idea what a white cake would be. Mycellium ect is not commmon knowledge and unless your home looks anything like a drug abuser paradise I don't think they thought anything about it.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Jiggle]
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Thanks for all the replies. We're hoping that our friend who was over that night didn't close the door all the way and we were just too high to notice, and that the wind blew it open which prompted someone to call the cops just in case... The ONE time I forgot to check the door since we move in and something like that happens. Sheesh. I'm really hoping it wasn't someone after my grow, my neighbors that I've given mushrooms to have always been decent and I'd like to think they wouldn't bust in, but you just never know. I've hidden all my stuff upstairs, but I haven't actually gotten rid of anything. I've been feeling paranoid about the number of prints I've gotten in the mail recently... I know they're legal but I get all worried that the envelopes look suspicious and postmen are noticing and corraborating (sp?) with the cops, lol. Kinda far fetched I know, especially considering that the cops didn't care, but having the police in my house with my grow will do that.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Sanguine]
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Sanguine said: Thanks for all the replies. We're hoping that our friend who was over that night didn't close the door all the way and we were just too high to notice, and that the wind blew it open which prompted someone to call the cops just in case... The ONE time I forgot to check the door since we move in and something like that happens. Sheesh. I'm really hoping it wasn't someone after my grow, my neighbors that I've given mushrooms to have always been decent and I'd like to think they wouldn't bust in, but you just never know. I've hidden all my stuff upstairs, but I haven't actually gotten rid of anything. I've been feeling paranoid about the number of prints I've gotten in the mail recently... I know they're legal but I get all worried that the envelopes look suspicious and postmen are noticing and corraborating (sp?) with the cops, lol. Kinda far fetched I know, especially considering that the cops didn't care, but having the police in my house with my grow will do that.
id feeel teh exact same way just play it safe for awhile but i wouldnt lose sleep over. and your grows look amazing., im about to grow some b+ as well as hopefully start some pink oyster and shiitake for "home remedy" care.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Sanguine]
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I can't believe that anyone would fail to lock their doors at night.
I may be paranoid but I lock the doors every single night and I keep them locked when I'm home.
There was a story in the news about a woman who was attacked in her sleep when the neighbors pit bull pushed her unlocked door open.
I know people that leave their doors unlocked and even leave their keys in their cars. I know one dude who had his car keys stolen by a gang of teens.
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i always lock my dooor. and keep lots of weapons !
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I only keep a weapon when I go to the city, in rural areas theyre arent too many crazies lol (contrary to popular belief)
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I can't beleive anyone thinks locks keep anybody out.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Doc_T]
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the only thing a lock stops is an honest theif..
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Re: Cop questions [Re: biologys]
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dead bolts do a good job
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shotgunssssssss 
Lol, that's what I was thinking right after it happened: "Aw shit, now I'm gonna have to go buy me a gun."
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Sanguine]
#12144940 - 03/04/10 08:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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shotgun won't keep anybody out.
A dog- that will keep people out.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Doc_T]
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Agreed. I really want to get a dog soon anyway.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Sanguine]
#12144987 - 03/04/10 09:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is no problem, only if you want a problem.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Sanguine]
#12144992 - 03/04/10 09:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Had a friend who lived in a bad neighborhood in columbus once. Had a picture of a gun and a sign that sais "I support the second amendment". No one broke into his house *shrug*
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Sanguine]
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Sanguine said: Thanks for all the replies. We're hoping that our friend who was over that night didn't close the door all the way and we were just too high to notice, and that the wind blew it open which prompted someone to call the cops just in case... The ONE time I forgot to check the door since we move in and something like that happens. Sheesh. I'm really hoping it wasn't someone after my grow, my neighbors that I've given mushrooms to have always been decent and I'd like to think they wouldn't bust in, but you just never know. I've hidden all my stuff upstairs, but I haven't actually gotten rid of anything. I've been feeling paranoid about the number of prints I've gotten in the mail recently... I know they're legal but I get all worried that the envelopes look suspicious and postmen are noticing and corraborating (sp?) with the cops, lol. Kinda far fetched I know, especially considering that the cops didn't care, but having the police in my house with my grow will do that.
It was probably your friend but I would like to add here: NEVER let your neighbors know what your doing. A neighbor IMO is twice as likely to rob you or call the cops on you. Also if they are chatterboxes and a friend is over there they can just point and tell them where your growing shrooms. If they live far away they can't tell them EXACTLY unless they wana turn over an addy which is unlikely. Everyone you tell your growing shrooms will tell someone. Everyone has that one person they tell everything to, and you certainly don't know is you can trust them. The only people that know about my grow are my mother and the person I trip with. If you find out someone walked into your house i would move. All these people talk about locks and dogs and guns and blah blah cuz they think they are rambo. If IM going to rob you I'm going to poison the dog and break a window when your not there. Not that I rob people or kill dogs but theres people that will. And if they walked into your house while you ARE there then its some dumbass kid on drugs or someone WITH a weapon. The fact that they left means to me it was your friend who just didn't close the door right.
I know I sound like a paranoid maniac and maybe I am but I also live in perfect safety. Good luck!
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Sanguine]
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Sanguine said: Agreed. I really want to get a dog soon anyway.
i have a 140 lbs pitbull you can borrow, he does wonderful job..if you dont know the dog you think he will eat you...fact is he's all bark and soon as you get close he'll lick ya to death
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Sanguine said: Agreed. I really want to get a dog soon anyway.
i have a 140 lbs pitbull you can borrow, he does wonderful job..if you dont know the dog you think he will eat you...fact is he's all bark and soon as you get close he'll lick ya to death
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Re: Cop questions [Re: biologys]
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Sanguine said: Agreed. I really want to get a dog soon anyway.
i have a 140 lbs pitbull you can borrow, he does wonderful job..if you dont know the dog you think he will eat you...fact is he's all bark and soon as you get close he'll lick ya to death
I <3 dogs like that. lol.
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Re: Cop questions (moved) [Re: Sanguine]
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Re: Cop questions (moved) [Re: Kysmoker]
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where did this thread get moved?
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Sanguine]
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sounds like you were stoned and forgot to close your door. cops probably went back to the station, then talked about the weird mushroom set up they found. then the drug squad probably heard about it and is now preparing to raid your house.
i would clear everything out, and wait 2months to see if there's a surprise raid. then resume as usual
i would NOT recommend a pitbull since you're a typical terrible dog owner (somebody who leaves their doors open). enjoy your prison sentence when you do this again, and your pitbull is roaming the halls looking for children to eat.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Kysmoker]
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Kysmoker said: Had a friend who lived in a bad neighborhood in columbus once. Had a picture of a gun and a sign that sais "I support the second amendment". No one broke into his house *shrug*
urban myth. putting up that sign let's everybody know you have a gun in the house which they can steal when they watch you going to work/grocery store everyday. if i'm a typical ex con looking to rip off a place, i'm going to choose the house with the gun after scoping it out and making sure nobody is home.
unless you're some crazy paranoid american who can conceal carry it everywhere.
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Anonymous said: sounds like you were stoned and forgot to close your door. cops probably went back to the station, then talked about the weird mushroom set up they found. then the drug squad probably heard about it and is now preparing to raid your house.
They can't ASSUME what they saw was illegal. If they thought that it was they should have taken it at the time to get it tested. If they come back later, because they ASSUMED the setup was illegal, it won't hold up in court.
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unless you're some crazy paranoid american who can conceal carry it everywhere.
Any smart gun owner will have the gun locked up.
Any smart gun owner that has a CCW permit SHOULD carry it everywhere with them.
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i thought cops could come back even a month later if they spotted something suspicious. i was even watching some cop reality show on A&E and the police were looking thru crimescene photos of bloody footprints (somebody had broken into a house, ran through it and escaped), and noticed a bag of pills that could be illegal xanax bars. they saddled up and went back to raid the house and question the guy who's name was on the lease.
also i would worry about whoever was walking around your place in the night and left the door open (unless OP was stoned and left his/her own door open).
maybe that person saw everything and is putting together a home invasion or robbery plan together. just my paranoid $0.02
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Kysmoker said: Had a friend who lived in a bad neighborhood in columbus once. Had a picture of a gun and a sign that sais "I support the second amendment". No one broke into his house *shrug*
urban myth. putting up that sign let's everybody know you have a gun in the house which they can steal when they watch you going to work/grocery store everyday. if i'm a typical ex con looking to rip off a place, i'm going to choose the house with the gun after scoping it out and making sure nobody is home.
unless you're some crazy paranoid american who can conceal carry it everywhere.
He had a weapons permit, and he did carry it with him. I suppose a place that has a gun sign would be good to rob for the gun, but then again youd have to be pretty ballsy.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Kysmoker]
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It's not my #1, but in the top ten for sure.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: Doc_T]
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the "king of the castle" mindset
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What happened was that you pulled the door shut but it didn't quite latch. Then the wind blew it open later.
Cops will come by if they see a door swinging in the breeze. But you should have had things locked up, with multiple doors between the outside and the room.
You should know if you think the cops are coming back. If they didn't give two shits and you didn't blabber like a nervous retard then you should be fine.
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Re: Cop questions [Re: fastfred]
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exactly very well said
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