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Why do wet pins abort?
    #10016069 - 03/21/09 07:13 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I read in a collection of RR's notes that if you leave your pins wet after misting, and just shut them away in your FC they are likely to abort. Why is this?


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Re: Why do wet pins abort? [Re: DeadDog]
    #10016337 - 03/21/09 08:00 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

They don't if you're using a shotgun terrarium.  However, wet pins in still, stale air is a recipe for aborts.  Given enough fresh air, they won't abort after misting.
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Re: Why do wet pins abort? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #12116595 - 02/28/10 09:15 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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They don't if you're using a shotgun terrarium.  However, wet pins in still, stale air is a recipe for aborts.  Given enough fresh air, they won't abort after misting.
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Would the air in my room surrounding my closet be considered fresh air? I have my fc in my closet i try to keep the door open when i am home but i do not have any kind of fan in the room. Mostly all my many little pins seem to be turning a darker color then others, so i assume they are aborts.
For some reason one cake did really well and grew way ahead of the others.I just harvested a dry first flush of 7.2 grams. The others started pinning then aborted some time today when i was at work. Seems like they abort fast!


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Re: Why do wet pins abort? [Re: Mushymush420]
    #12116636 - 02/28/10 09:22 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

yes sg terrariums will have enough air locked in a closet for a week.... maybe longer but i have done a week several times.


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Re: Why do wet pins abort? [Re: Mushymush420]
    #12117939 - 03/01/10 01:10 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Closets are horrible places to grow.  They don't have circulation and the air gets stale really fast.  Find a place in an open room for your shotgun terrarium to function properly.
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Re: Why do wet pins abort? [Re: wattballasts]
    #12118997 - 03/01/10 09:53 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
Closets are horrible places to grow.  They don't have circulation and the air gets stale really fast.  Find a place in an open room for your shotgun terrarium to function properly.
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Yeah thats what i figured i moved them out in the open room. I just harvested my first cake weighing at 6.2 grams. I am happy about it being it is my first grow.

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yes sg terrariums will have enough air locked in a closet for a week.... maybe longer but i have done a week several times.




That does not seem right to me. You cant just leave the door closed on a closet for a week and get good results...You are at least opening it up to fan and mist everyday right? That exchanges the air.


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Re: Why do wet pins abort? [Re: Mushymush420]
    #12119066 - 03/01/10 10:05 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
Closets are horrible places to grow.  They don't have circulation and the air gets stale really fast.  Find a place in an open room for your shotgun terrarium to function properly.
RR




Yeah thats what i figured i moved them out in the open room. I just harvested my first cake weighing at 6.2 grams. I am happy about it being it is my first grow.

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yes sg terrariums will have enough air locked in a closet for a week.... maybe longer but i have done a week several times.




That does not seem right to me. You cant just leave the door closed on a closet for a week and get good results...You are at least opening it up to fan and mist everyday right? That exchanges the air.




no! i have an automated system. i have ran it for almost a year. i connect an ultrasonic to a sg terrarium. it runs for 15 min of every 2 hours. i refill every week and a half. i NEVER fan and NEVER mist. i have left the closet shut for 5-8 days numerous times. i have posted this several times...but ppl dont believe me i guess. o well. i harvest about a pound every 2 weeks from 2 SG that i NEVER maintain.


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Re: Why do wet pins abort? [Re: wattballasts]
    #12119223 - 03/01/10 10:27 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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yes sg terrariums will have enough air locked in a closet for a week.... maybe longer but i have done a week several times.




Thats cool man. Id like to have a setup like that sometime. I believe ya its just that when you posted that to a post of a new(me) i could have assumed that you simply meant the closet itself with the sgfc and figured, "oh he does it so its cool" and all my pins could have aborted! Haha its all good though.

Could you give me some more details on your setup. Do you use trays of substrate and place in a standard FC...I am interested how you achieve such great results


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Re: Why do wet pins abort? [Re: Mushymush420]
    #12119304 - 03/01/10 10:41 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

its multispore from the hawks eye. ill rep them all day. i use rye as spawn. and cow manure and coir as substrate.(sometimes i add verm, hydrated lime, and/or light malt extract) i colonize in 12 quart dish tubs that i cover with foil, cut a square out in the center, and cover with tyvek and duct tape. i let colonize for 14 days, remove from dish tub and rinse. i place 2 side by side in each SG. i let fruit for 12-14 days then replace with new cakes. no second flushes unless ive been out of town and got behind a week or so.


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Re: Why do wet pins abort? [Re: wattballasts]
    #12119438 - 03/01/10 11:04 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Looks great. So you set the cakes directly on the perlite? What is an automated system anyway. A coolmist? How do you fan in there?


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Re: Why do wet pins abort? [Re: wattballasts]
    #12119511 - 03/01/10 11:16 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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no! i have an automated system. i have ran it for almost a year. i connect an ultrasonic to a sg terrarium. it runs for 15 min of every 2 hours. i refill every week and a half. i NEVER fan and NEVER mist. i have left the closet shut for 5-8 days numerous times. i have posted this several times...but ppl dont believe me i guess. o well. i harvest about a pound every 2 weeks from 2 SG that i NEVER maintain.



How is your ultrasonic connected to the SG terrarium?  I used something similar for a recent grow and it worked wonderfully, but I didn't have a shotgun FC so it wasn't getting as much FAE as it should have. 

Also, did you use a modified timer to get the 15mins/2hrs timing, or something else?


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Re: Why do wet pins abort? [Re: Ubitsa]
    #12120264 - 03/01/10 01:08 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

its an ultrasonic. a pretty big one. i run its through a hose that divides into two and connects to each one. i have the tube raised so the excess water drains back into the US instead of building up in the hose.  the timer has 15 min interval options. 100 lil switches running around it. i click one down every 2 hours. the lights are on a separate timer runnning 12/12. they(cakes) are not sitting directly on the perlite. i have cut pieces of clear plastic for them to sit on. u dont need much perlite. its just to catch the water that drains down the side. the ultrasonic pumps a gallon every week and a half even on its lowest setting. thats a lot of water. they seem to love it. at night the water beads up on the cakes but not the mushrooms. then when the lights are on it evaporates. check out this picture post of mine http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11703659/page/1


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Re: Why do wet pins abort? [Re: wattballasts]
    #12120408 - 03/01/10 01:30 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Nice :smile:


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