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sp4cem0nkey
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FlavorWood == wood fuel pellets?
#12103069 - 02/26/10 04:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm going to try noobieshroomie's Sawdust/Woodchip Tek. I found some Cherry Wood Chips at WalMart, but I couldn't find fuel pellets at WM or Lowe's or Home Depot. I did find a canned version of wood pellets called Flavorwood at Sports Authority, oddly enough. The chips come in cans as a variety pack of Alder, Hickory, and Mesquite. The idea is the can has a small hole at the top, and you place the whole can on the grill to add natural smoke flavor. The box says "Produces all natural wood smoke..." I used a can opener to inspect the contents and they look like the pellets in Noobie's tek. Can I use these with the tek? Is it OK to mix the 3 wood varieties together?
Here is a pic of the contents:
 Mmmmmm! Looks good enough to eat! 
ps: I ended up paying about $13 for about 8 cups of pellets this way. How much do wood fuel pellets cost normally?
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frankenstoen

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Re: FlavorWood == wood fuel pellets? [Re: sp4cem0nkey]
#12103616 - 02/26/10 05:19 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Five dollars per fifty pound bag is quite typical.
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sp4cem0nkey
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Re: FlavorWood == wood fuel pellets? [Re: frankenstoen]
#12104335 - 02/26/10 07:21 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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frankenstoen said: Five dollars per fifty pound bag is quite typical.
Ummm... I got ripped off with the Flavorwood then. Where can I find one of these 50lb bags then? Maybe its a seasonal thing cuz I couldn't find them anywhere! What are they typically used for? Smokers? Camp Stoves?
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frankenstoen

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Re: FlavorWood == wood fuel pellets? [Re: sp4cem0nkey]
#12104797 - 02/26/10 08:37 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wood pellets are typically used fuel in pellet stoves in colder climates. I have found them at Lowes, Home Depot, animal feed stores, and lumber stores. In the midwest the pellets are mixed hardwoods, on the west coast they seem to mainly be made from Doug Fir, which while not ideal, works fairly well.
If you live in a warm climate you might have trouble finding them.
You can also find pine pellets used as cat litter in grocery and pet food stores. While pine is generally not recommended, the pelletizing process seems to make it acceptable for growing mushrooms based on several reports by growers on this board.
Save the Flavorwood for the barbecue or smoker.
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Re: FlavorWood == wood fuel pellets? [Re: frankenstoen]
#12105187 - 02/26/10 09:54 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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those should work all the "flavor" comes from the type of wood its self like if you smoked food using hickory,cherry,cedar they will all have different tastes
yea you can mix them they are all hardwoods they should work fine
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sp4cem0nkey
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Re: FlavorWood == wood fuel pellets? [Re: frankenstoen]
#12105440 - 02/26/10 10:59 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info, guys. I guess I'll give it a shot with what I have, since these pellets are scarce in Texas. Wish me luck w/ my Maitakes!
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frankenstoen

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Re: FlavorWood == wood fuel pellets? [Re: sp4cem0nkey]
#12106481 - 02/27/10 07:49 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maitake are one of the more difficult species to grow. You might wish to start with something a little bit easier if you are new to wood-lovers.
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sp4cem0nkey
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Re: FlavorWood == wood fuel pellets? [Re: frankenstoen]
#12107705 - 02/27/10 12:13 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shitake, perhaps? I already have a LC of Maitake from a grocery store clone, and I want to use it before it stalls in the LC. I figure theres a good chance it will fail, but I'd like to give it a try anyway. What special considerations should I take into account? Lower temps? Lower Humidity?
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frankenstoen

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Re: FlavorWood == wood fuel pellets? [Re: sp4cem0nkey]
#12112025 - 02/28/10 08:23 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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While it is possible to go directly to supplemented sawdust from an LC, I think going to grain first, then to sawdust is more likely to succeed.
Did you clone directly to LC? Test the LC on agar, to be sure that it is Maitake mycelium. It's fairly distinctive.
Maitake mycelium is fairly easy to grow, it's getting the temperatures, FAE, and RH right for the fruiting process that can be difficult. You need ABSOLUTE control over these variables for maitake. Oysters will produce mushrooms in constant temps from 40F to over 80F, (and day/night variables even greater than that) while the range for maitake is much, much narrower. I have yet to get past the initial primordia-forming stage.
You can probably find the exact specifications for maitake elsewhere on this site, they are listed in Stamet's Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms, available at most libraries and available from numerous Shroomery sponsors.
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sp4cem0nkey
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Re: FlavorWood == wood fuel pellets? [Re: frankenstoen]
#12115871 - 02/28/10 07:27 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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frankenstoen said: While it is possible to go directly to supplemented sawdust from an LC, I think going to grain first, then to sawdust is more likely to succeed.
Did you clone directly to LC? Test the LC on agar, to be sure that it is Maitake mycelium. It's fairly distinctive.
Maitake mycelium is fairly easy to grow, it's getting the temperatures, FAE, and RH right for the fruiting process that can be difficult. You need ABSOLUTE control over these variables for maitake. Oysters will produce mushrooms in constant temps from 40F to over 80F, (and day/night variables even greater than that) while the range for maitake is much, much narrower. I have yet to get past the initial primordia-forming stage.
You can probably find the exact specifications for maitake elsewhere on this site, they are listed in Stamet's Growing Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms, available at most libraries and available from numerous Shroomery sponsors.
Wow. I didn't know what I was getting into when I cloned the yummy bugger. I had no idea how tricky Maitake were yo fruit. I'm commited to it now, at least for the experience. I caught my mistake just in time, and I sealed my sawdust bags before PCing them. I innoc'ed some rye from the LC today.
Soooo... has anyone here gotten a Maitake clone to fruit???
btw, franken, you've got some gorgeous photos on your flickr site! kudos to you for all those grows! You making any $$ off your grows?
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frankenstoen

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Re: FlavorWood == wood fuel pellets? [Re: sp4cem0nkey]
#12116732 - 02/28/10 09:37 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Soooo... has anyone here gotten a Maitake clone to fruit???
I remember a few different examples on here of various success stories - use the search function, I don't remember who they were or if they are still on the board, but it definitely can be done, if you can get all of the environmental variables under control.
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You making any $$ off your grows?
I'm barely able to grow enough for me to eat at this point. I'm currently only eating fresh mushrooms once per day. I won't give up any of my mushrooms until I'm eating them three meals a day!
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