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OfflineSkikid16
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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: Evolving]
    #1216610 - 01/14/03 04:45 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Luv and Evolv.


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OfflineDilauded
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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: i am e goldstein]
    #1217620 - 01/14/03 10:06 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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i lost a sister to a drunk driver... drunk drivers suck... very hard 




This girl who was my coach's daughter and close to me, died b/c of a drunk driver...  :frown:

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Offlinemetalchimp
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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: Dilauded]
    #1217921 - 01/14/03 11:43 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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All the drugs that are now illegal will probably become much much cheaper




can you imagine the taxes they would put on them, thats one of the arguments that the governments like

dunno what it's like in america but here in the UK they tax every 'luxury' to fuck!

petrol is 80% tax, yes 80% for every ?10 you spend on it ?8 of that goes straight into the governments pockets, whats even more fucked up is that they spend fuck all on roads

tax on fags is obscene, ditto alcohol etc... they would have a field day!

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Offlineehud
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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: Anonymous]
    #1218870 - 01/14/03 05:27 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

only the ones I want to use.

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Anonymous

Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: Anonymous]
    #1219186 - 01/14/03 06:47 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I believe they should all be legal, as Thomas Jefferson said "Those who give up any liberty for security deserve neither liberty or security." You should be able to do whatever you damn well please as long as youre not hurting anyone else.

Imo, as Christianity slowly dies down, more people will become interested in the mind and in consciousness in general, leading to acceptance of psychedelics in the main-stream. After weed, i think shrooms and peyote will both be legalized at the same time, as with all other soft drugs. I doubt we'll be seeing heroin or crack being legalised any time soon.

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Invisibleluvdemshrooms
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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: ]
    #1219462 - 01/14/03 09:37 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Actually, the quote your thinking of is....
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin


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Anonymous

Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1219816 - 01/15/03 02:58 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

"To throw somebody in prison for 25 years is barbaric."

America is known for its barbarism, Gazzbutt. Being an Englishman I thought you would have realized that "civility" is not our strong suite.

There are people in Texas prisons right now doing a life sentence for possession of a single marijuana ciggarette.

Chills the blood, doesn't it?

The very same thinking incarcerates people for no other reason that they "might" hurt someone if they are intoxicated. This is why we have drunk driving laws. It is the underlying philosophy that I vehemently disagree with. If you do something wrong there should be retribution. Being intoxicated is not wrong.

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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: ]
    #1219845 - 01/15/03 03:16 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

****America is known for its barbarism, Gazzbutt. Being an Englishman I thought you would have realized that "civility" is not our strong suite.****

While i won't defend excessive sentences for drug use i will say that if you think that the US is anywhere near as barbaric as, let's say, the middle east, Africa or Russia then you might want to rethink your definition of barbaric. I have no problem throwing someone who commits a serious crime into jail for life (like murder etc.)



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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1219858 - 01/15/03 03:29 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Barbarism is a relative term and there will be those less barbaric and more barbaric than America. These things change over time. When the Crown executed William Wallace I wouldn't exactly say that was civil.

But in reference to America I am thinking along the lines of the broken treaties with Natives that would have made Hitler proud and the genocide of Native peoples. Couple that with things like the Salem witch trials where women were burned at the stake. And add in the fact that unborn children are systematically murdered by inserting a pair of scissors into the back of their skulls and having their brains sucked out until they are a dead lifeless corpse to be cast aside like so much dog meat and the sad fact that is not only condoned but has full govenment sanction.

You know, stuff like that.

I concluded, America is/has been barbaric.

Also remember that the Middle East is filled with Conservatives. Makes ya think, don't it?

It is relative.

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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: ]
    #1219969 - 01/15/03 04:22 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

true, very true....

****Also remember that the Middle East is filled with Conservatives. Makes ya think, don't it? ****

In name only. It's comparing apples and oranges. If a society believes that women are second class citizens, then their status quo is at a different level. Just like me saying that a libby in Iraq is the same as that of one in Washington, not the same.


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Invisibledeprave
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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1230183 - 01/19/03 12:18 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Marijuana use should be decriminalized and thats it, honestly i want shrooms to be legal of course but there is to many dumn iresponsable people, honestly most of the time people get caught with illegal drugs is because they where being irresponsable/fucking dumb, Pot should be a Civil Infraction and thats it, not legalized, punishments are to harsh, but drugs should definitly not be legal, its important to protect peoiple from things like cocaine but not put them in jail.


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Invisibledeprave
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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: deprave]
    #1230189 - 01/19/03 12:22 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

There is an extreme lack of if any documents out there about drug politics/facts that is completly unbiast, both sides are guilty of being biast one way or another, Honestly do you think your neighbor with a small child and lack of intelligence should start shoting up cause its ez to get and legal, everyone is not like you


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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: deprave]
    #1230539 - 01/19/03 06:03 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

So you're taking the position of protecting people from themselves. So why should weed be legal? I've seen pot fuck more people up than mushrooms; everyone I've seen use shrooms has not only come out of it alive, but a better person. Meanwhile, I have a few unemployed friends who do nothing but smoke pot all day. And what about peyote? Not only is it as safe as mushrooms, but it's part of many Indians' religion. If you think people are too stupid to use mushrooms and such, what makes you think they'd be able to handle mary jane?

And as for the father shooting up, why would he start this habit just because it has become legal? If you're set on leading a healthy life, you're not going to all of a sudden start taking heroin if it becomes legal. And chances are, this guy you speak of already has a drinking problem, because alcohol is easy to get and legal. So he has already fucked over his child.

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Offlinehongomon
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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: Anonymous]
    #1231783 - 01/19/03 04:47 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I'm against prohibition.  I think it creates greater problems, and  I think it should be prohibitted.  :tongue:

But here's a question I have:  If drugs are to be legalized, or decriminalized, does that mean that they can be commercialized?  Cause I don't like that idea really. 

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OfflineJiminiCricket
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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: Anonymous]
    #1231802 - 01/19/03 04:52 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

All narcotics/drugs/mind altering substances should be legal, especially weed and pain killers and tranquilizers and shrooms. Prohibition is unnatural and an infringment of freedom and human rights.


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Offlinerommstein2001
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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: Anonymous]
    #1232709 - 01/20/03 02:28 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Every single drug should be 100% legal. Since when does the government tell you what goes in your body??? Kind of like Social security, They tell you you HAVE TO put back money, and then turn around and take it. If they are going to come out with socialist bullshit like SS than at least they could becmome a full socialism.


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Re: What Drugs Do You Think Should Be Legal? [Re: Anonymous]
    #1238381 - 01/22/03 02:18 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

No drugs would be illegal. Only the act of making or selling hard drugs would be. It should not be a criminal offense to use drugs. If you are not addicted, then you aren't harming anyone and none of the rational anti-drug arguments (drug addicts are a drag on society and commit crimes) apply to you. If you ARE addicted, then your addiction should not make you a criminal. I'm all about harm reduction. I don't think our culture is mature enough to handle completely free trade in hard drugs. Consumer culture is the worst pusher there ever was, and I think there'd be terrible consequences if corporations started advertising and selling smack. Selling refined or processed drugs such as cocaine, heroin, or methamphetamine should be illegal. Buying it shouldn't. "Soft Drugs" should all be completely legal... although, I sure wouldn't want Big Recreational Drug Company, Inc. to be selling us our mushrooms and ganja...

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