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Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or what..
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Here is my other thread with a picture of the 6 strip I bought and a little more information-http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11989319. I bought this for my first time, and payed 70 bucks for it. Now 1 month later I think its about time I tell the shroomery about what happened, and let them decide if this was actual LSD.

I woke up early (approximately 7:30 on a Thursday) and there wasn't any school, so I dropped two tabs which tasted like nothing, just paper. Then I told my mom I was going to go to this ski resort by my house with a friend for the day, and I was going to walk to my friends house and we would leave, my mom fell for it and I threw on my snowboarding gear and grabbed my board and decided to walk to this private school nearby with stores nearby and a beautiful scenery thinking this would be the best place to trip. I was warm, extremely happy, and had Pink Floyd blaring in my ear for the next 1 and a half and it began, I noticed a good amount of euphoria running through me. I then noticed everything seemed more "colorful" and I wrote in my phone that everything looked like I was watching a 3d movie, without the glasses. And I got all excited that I was actually about to witness real LSD visuals. But instead the trip pretty much stayed this way the whole time. I could also close my eyes and see little faint colors floating around. OEV's were nothing but noticeable colors which were kind of standing out.
       
About 2 hours of this I wanted a change of scenery and was sort of cold so I walked to the nearby Dunkin' Donuts, when I walked in I glanced at at this guy and i could of swore I saw a DJ spinning a disc and I quickly looked back only to see a guy sitting there, it was weird. Then I and sat down to really analyze the trip. I then started thinking "ohh, the reason why i'm not hallucinating is because you have to be in the dark to see stuff", I really don't know... But anyways, everything looked so WEIRD, like I was watching people entering and leaving and they just looked SO FUCKING FUNNY, idk why. i just could not help myself laugh at people. I quickly got up to go to the bathroom to look at my eyes and they were big and glossy and my face looked "different", I just cannot explain this feeling of everything looking foreign. This feeling staying with me throughout the trip. I also noted dim but large halos around lights. I then went home and smoke some bud and that really made it more intense, i could just look at my phone and it would pop out at me. If I sat in my room with the lights off, nothing very visually happens except very very very faint patterns, I was mostly imagining them. Then my mom entered my room and was crying and was telling me about how my dad was being an asshole and i thought it would throw me into a bad trip, but instead I just shrugged it off and it didn't effect me. But when my mom looked up at me her face once again set off this feeling that it looked so strange, like i'v never seen her before in my life. Weird. I would like to also add that I was confused most of the time what was going on but could process some things well. I wasn't slurring at all either and i handled talking to my mom no problem at all.

    Next morning was completely normal and when I got in my car I noticed a rainbow out of the corner of my eye, it was cool and when my eyes focused on it, it just disappeared. But it stayed there for awhile and was pretty cool I must say. overall, I was dissapointed by this and i asked the dude who sold it to me and he said "idk what to tell ya dude, it was acid". Idk if I believe him or not because this was my first time ever buying off him and trying it in my life so I have nothing to compare to. But the feeling that overtook this trip the most was this feeling that things look "strange", and "different". I am thinking this could be an RC of some sort, i'm think 2c-i, but I haven't checked out an other RC's besides this and DOB and I don't believe it's DOB since it tasted like paper.It might be weak acid, but my trip closely relates a couple 2c-i trips I have read so idk. But my other 2 trips were exactly the same. I'm buying 8 more off this kid soon for Alice In Wonderland and he's telling me that he's buying off a different kid which makes him trip absolute balls every time. He said that he didn't trip his first time off this kids acid either, but afterwards did. Please Shroomery, help me discover what it was the hell I took because I really wanna know, I just can't figure it out! If it was a normal dose of LSD then that was a COMPLETE let down. I was expecting to get thrown into another world mentally and visually..

Edited by Jvells (02/26/10 05:10 AM)

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or what.. [Re: Jvells]
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Sounds like it was fun, just not enough. Sounds like some really really weak LSD... try a bit more next time.


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: The Psychonaut]
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sounds like acid to me
weak acid, but definitely acid :thumbup:


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: rsinatra13]
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rsinatra13 said:
sounds like acid to me
weak acid, but definitely acid :thumbup:



The Psychonaut said:
Sounds like it was fun, just not enough. Sounds like some really really weak LSD... try a bit more next time.



What did I say that mostly resembles LSD?

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: Jvells]
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well the fact that it just tasted like paper usually will rule out most RC's
and faint patterns/colors are common.
and i ALWAYS get that shift, where things just look different somehow.


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: rsinatra13]
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My first couple trips with acid, I knew something was different but it was hard to exactly place... Black was blacker, green was greener. Etc. Now that I've done so much acid that I lost track, I have come to feel you get what you put in. That is to say, you gotta make yourself trip. Like one time I was like, well I should be able to paint with my eyes, and make ripple effects with my hands... and bam it happened. Closed eye visuals always seem stronger too, unless you take a lot of acid.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: rsinatra13]
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yea sounds like low-dose LSD to me, were things have a slight waterpainting kinda look to them and slight OEVs mild CEVs.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: D.M.T]
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With a medium dose do you have very vivid OEV's and CEV's and big headfuck, or no? Like will everything like warp and morph and turn into patterns and get really intense or am I expecting too much? I just can't see how you can have any type of enlightment by not seeing anything.. I judge the trip by strength of the visuals to how potent it was.

Edited by Jvells (02/25/10 08:26 PM)

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: Jvells]
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you arent expecting too much. acid is perfect. you just need more :awecid:


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: Jvells]
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weak hits. its probably some sub-standard work paper, probably 50 mics or so. you see this type of paper alot in places where there is little supply and bad connections, or at major-type commercial festivals with lots of custies who don't know their shit.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: greenspectral]
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Ok yeah I just gotta get better connects. I mean have you guys ever had enlightment without visuals? I mean I don't see how it's possible without any visuals.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: Jvells]
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Don't expect enlightenment, just let it be and it will come.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: D.M.T]
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I got the same thing man, my first time too. I did one weak WoW blotter. Things were stranger, I felt on the edge of it, but not really. I prefer low dose mushrooms.


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: Jvells]
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Jvells said:
I mean have you guys ever had enlightment without visuals? I mean I don't see how it's possible without any visuals.



No offense, but it sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.

And by the sounds of it, you were definitely getting visuals.

Sounds like an average low dose trip.

Maybe acid isn't for you?:shrug:


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: wildchild68]
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D.M.T said:
Don't expect enlightenment, just let it be and it will come.



wildchild68 said:
Jvells said:
I mean have you guys ever had enlightment without visuals? I mean I don't see how it's possible without any visuals.



No offense, but it sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.

And by the sounds of it, you were definitely getting visuals.

Sounds like an average low dose trip.

Maybe acid isn't for you?:shrug:



yeah lol, odvousely I don't if I'm asking questions about it? And no lol, I wasn't getting any visual that really stood out at me, just the color brightness. But would 5 tabs of this same kind be too much or perfect? I'm 6' 1'' and 180lbs.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: Jvells]
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5 tabs at 50 mics = 250 mics that should be plenty to trip if it actually has any molecule on it at all.

that being said, the first time you experience a real good dosing off some heady, clean L, visuals will be more of a side attraction. the greatest effect will come from the incredibly expanded scope of your perception and of your mind. thought patterns will connect and coalesce, forming vast galaxies of knowledge. it will open up neurological pathways that you've never before utilized, and manifest from mind will be things that you previously thought existed only in the realm of the supernatural.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: Jvells]
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Jvells said:
Ok yeah I just gotta get better connects. I mean have you guys ever had enlightment without visuals? I mean I don't see how it's possible without any visuals.



enlightenment for me happens from within, not from visuals i see.


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: James420]
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James420 said:
Jvells said:
Ok yeah I just gotta get better connects. I mean have you guys ever had enlightment without visuals? I mean I don't see how it's possible without any visuals.



enlightenment for me happens from within, not from visuals i see.



That's what I was getting at. ^^^ 

It is all about the mental clarity. Personally I don't think you are going to get any more enlightened from psychedelics. It is good for freeing the mind into contemplation and addressing life issues. psychedelics are not a practice in themself though in my humble opinion, but rather they are an aid. Relying on psychedelics to achieve enlightenment defeats the purpose. sorta an oxymoron if you will.

This is merely my opinion though and I'm sure there are a few enlightened shamans here who will dispute this.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: D.M.T]
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D.M.T said:
James420 said:
Jvells said:
Ok yeah I just gotta get better connects. I mean have you guys ever had enlightment without visuals? I mean I don't see how it's possible without any visuals.



enlightenment for me happens from within, not from visuals i see.



That's what I was getting at. ^^^ 

It is all about the mental clarity. Personally I don't think you are going to get any more enlightened from psychedelics. It is good for freeing the mind into contemplation and addressing life issues. psychedelics are not a practice in themself though in my humble opinion, but rather they are an aid. Relying on psychedelics to achieve enlightenment defeats the purpose. sorta an oxymoron if you will.

This is merely my opinion though and I'm sure there are a few enlightened shamans here who will dispute this.



I think me and you have different aspects as to what "enlightment" is. I am looking to psycadelics for a better attitude on life, much happier person, spiritual, and just opening my mind to what god gave us. Is enlightment kind of like you end the trip a better person, or does a goddess appear before your eyes and go "do better at work" or something weird like that, that motivates you..?

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: Jvells]
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Sounds like weak LSD to me.

"I was watching people entering and leaving and they just looked SO FUCKING FUNNY"

Once you get into higher doses, they will become disgusting! :smile:

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: Jvells]
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Jvells said:
Ok yeah I just gotta get better connects. I mean have you guys ever had enlightment without visuals? I mean I don't see how it's possible without any visuals.



It's not about the visuals at all.  It's about the feeling it gives you.  Ego loss.  Altered perception of time.  Etc.


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Edited by PsychedelicSpirit (02/26/10 06:16 AM)

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: PsychedelicSpirit]
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yah sounds like weak acid thats why you should Drop the rest of your cid dog youd be trippin balz!


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: 34120060]
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trust me, when u get a good dose of acid there wont be any questioning about it.  The one thing I couldn't stop thinking during my first trip was: "I have never been so fucking high in my life" and "This is what they mean when they say 'high as kite'"

I agree with most people that what u described most closely resembles a threshold dose trip, meaning the LSD was active but not enough for full effects.

either try taking more or find wait for some dank shit to come around

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: phxBoomer]
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I agree with everybody else, it definitely sounds like low dose LSD.
You can't expect the drug to enlighten you.
For a lot of people it changes their perspective to be able to see and appreciate things in a new light and after the trip they might have an "afterglow" that sounds like what you might be looking for.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: bryguy27007]
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low dose LSD... but it seems like your tripping for the wrong reasons my man


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: SummerDaisies]
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SummerDaisies said:
low dose LSD... but it seems like your tripping for the wrong reasons my man



What is the right reason?
By what standards is the right reason right?

I used to let this slide, but now it makes me irritated when people think that they trip for the right reasons and that they have the answers.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: bryguy27007]
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tripping for visuals is the wrong reason IMO


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: SummerDaisies]
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oh and i never said i had the answers man, i just dont think that tripping for visuals is the way to get them


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: SummerDaisies]
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If its worth a fuck at all two should have you flying with some pretty decent visuals. Eat 3 next time, see how you feel, then dose again if necessary. Set and setting is also crucial. Sounds like you were walking around at daytime. While daytrips can be pretty cool. The real shit goes down at night. Its much more mystical/mysterious IMO. Especially when the stars are out. :dizope:


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: Seeker_22]
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If i were you I would test the new stuff ur getting before dosing 5 hits. Would try 2 one weekend and wait till next weekend to do the 5. Sounds like your connect isnt all there. He may be getting different quality stuff from diff people. U don really kno. Anyways, I do think 5 would be a good dose for you to get you off visually and give you the experience your wanting if its the same stuff. And as far as enlightenment, try and track your thought patterns while tripping that is what lead to my most enlightening experiences.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: Polky09]
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Ya take more next time

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: SummerDaisies]
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SummerDaisies said:
tripping for visuals is the wrong reason IMO



That didn't answer my question.

SummerDaisies said:
oh and i never said i had the answers man, i just dont think that tripping for visuals is the way to get them



I also never said that you said that you (wow) had all the answers.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: bryguy27007]
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bryguy27007 said:
SummerDaisies said:
tripping for visuals is the wrong reason IMO



That didn't answer my question.

SummerDaisies said:
oh and i never said i had the answers man, i just dont think that tripping for visuals is the way to get them



I also never said that you said that you (wow) had all the answers.




no i think i did answer your question...


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: SummerDaisies]
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SummerDaisies said:
bryguy27007 said:
SummerDaisies said:
tripping for visuals is the wrong reason IMO



That didn't answer my question.

SummerDaisies said:
oh and i never said i had the answers man, i just dont think that tripping for visuals is the way to get them



I also never said that you said that you (wow) had all the answers.




no i think i did answer your question...



Not quite, I asked what the right reason was and by what standard and you gave one wrong reason and an internet abbreviation as a standard.

By the way, I don't mean to sound snippy or rude.
I'm just interested in some friendly conversation.
Sorry if I came across that way.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: bryguy27007]
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bryguy27007 said:
SummerDaisies said:
bryguy27007 said:
SummerDaisies said:
tripping for visuals is the wrong reason IMO



That didn't answer my question.

SummerDaisies said:
oh and i never said i had the answers man, i just dont think that tripping for visuals is the way to get them



I also never said that you said that you (wow) had all the answers.




no i think i did answer your question...



Not quite, I asked what the right reason was and by what standard and you gave one wrong reason and an internet abbreviation as a standard.

By the way, I don't mean to sound snippy or rude.
I'm just interested in some friendly conversation.
Sorry if I came across that way.



i did take it that way at first, but i am sorry to be rude myself if thats not how you meant it.

i dont know what the right reasons for tripping are man, but in my opinion it should be more for self introspection than visuals, you know?

i mean i dont mean to be rude either but like, i just dont see anything to gain from tripping for visuals... maybe thats just me tho.


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or what.. [Re: Jvells]
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I agree that you probably ate real LSD. Sounds very much like a low dose of LSD. After you get more used to the effects, and have some higher doses under your belt, those 'imagined' visuals on low doses like yours will stand out a lot more. Some people will feel really high and headfucked on a low first dose but get no visuals at all - I feel like this is because they don't know how to look for them yet. Your 'imagined' patterns were probably the real thing...on low doses they can seem transparent and questionable as to whether or not you're imagining them, but higher doses of LSD are more like you described, IE intense patterns that are undeniable and overwhelming. Your LSD was probably pretty weak. Sounds like about half the strength of the stuff I usually deal with, as two is almost always enough for good visuals. Don't worry, you won't be let down on a bigger dose.

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: SummerDaisies]
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SummerDaisies said:
i dont know what the right reasons for tripping are man, but in my opinion it should be more for self introspection than visuals, you know?

i mean i dont mean to be rude either but like, i just dont see anything to gain from tripping for visuals... maybe thats just me tho.



I think visuals are awesome. They're definitely entertaining. Who are you to decide what tripping is for anyway? Some people just like to get high. I don't think LSD is that good for introspection anyway, I reserve mushrooms for that and LSD for getting 'high as a kite'

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: drr]
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drr said:
SummerDaisies said:
i dont know what the right reasons for tripping are man, but in my opinion it should be more for self introspection than visuals, you know?

i mean i dont mean to be rude either but like, i just dont see anything to gain from tripping for visuals... maybe thats just me tho.



I think visuals are awesome. They're definitely entertaining. Who are you to decide what tripping is for anyway? Some people just like to get high. I don't think LSD is that good for introspection anyway, I reserve mushrooms for that and LSD for getting 'high as a kite'




if you could learn how to read you would see i said that I DONT KNOW THE REASON.

but its not visuals, and to say LSD has no depth... wow.


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: SummerDaisies]
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SummerDaisies said:
drr said:
SummerDaisies said:
i dont know what the right reasons for tripping are man, but in my opinion it should be more for self introspection than visuals, you know?

i mean i dont mean to be rude either but like, i just dont see anything to gain from tripping for visuals... maybe thats just me tho.



I think visuals are awesome. They're definitely entertaining. Who are you to decide what tripping is for anyway? Some people just like to get high. I don't think LSD is that good for introspection anyway, I reserve mushrooms for that and LSD for getting 'high as a kite'




if you could learn how to read you would see i said that I DONT KNOW THE REASON.

but its not visuals, and to say LSD has no depth... wow.



Well clearly you think you have the reason..."but in my opinion it should be more for self introspection than visuals, you know?"

and when did I say LSD has no depth? And what does that even mean, anyway? I just said its not as good for an introspective trip as mushrooms are...

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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: drr]
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I think LSD is better for contemplating the world, society, so on and so forth.


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: drr]
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drr said:
SummerDaisies said:
i dont know what the right reasons for tripping are man, but in my opinion it should be more for self introspection than visuals, you know?

i mean i dont mean to be rude either but like, i just dont see anything to gain from tripping for visuals... maybe thats just me tho.



I think visuals are awesome. They're definitely entertaining. Who are you to decide what tripping is for anyway? Some people just like to get high. I don't think LSD is that good for introspection anyway, I reserve mushrooms for that and LSD for getting 'high as a kite'



Argh. I agree there is no "right reason" to trip.

But taking a highly potent psychedelic drug just to see some patterns is a pretty awful idea, IMO.

You're asking for a world of trouble. And let me explain why I think that is: whether you're aware of it or not, there is a massive cognitive catharsis happening in your mind. To completely ignore this, could cause some mental issues.

Just my opinion. I love visuals as much as the next guy. But to tinker around with your brain to just to see visuals seems to sell the whole experience short.

And the OP specifically stated that he's trying to achieve "enlightenment" through visuals, which just really doesn't make a whole lot of sense.


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Re: Dropped my first two tabs of LSD and it was sort of a let down..Im not shore if it was LSD or wh [Re: SummerDaisies]
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SummerDaisies said:
i did take it that way at first, but i am sorry to be rude myself if thats not how you meant it.

i dont know what the right reasons for tripping are man, but in my opinion it should be more for self introspection than visuals, you know?

i mean i dont mean to be rude either but like, i just dont see anything to gain from tripping for visuals... maybe thats just me tho.



Good, I'm glad we got that sorted out peacefully, haha.
Alright, I know exactly what you mean.
People have different ideas of how trips should be spent and used and such.
It's just that though, one person's opinion.

I don't think there is some higher order above us  that we should all strive to achieve while we are tripping. I think if you want to do that, that is great. I also think that if you don't want to do that, that is great to.

I personally use psychedelics for the way they make me think and shift my perception. That doesn't mean that I look down on people for using them for fun (not pointing any fingers).

We are all just living life.

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wildchild68 said:
drr said:
SummerDaisies said:
i dont know what the right reasons for tripping are man, but in my opinion it should be more for self introspection than visuals, you know?

i mean i dont mean to be rude either but like, i just dont see anything to gain from tripping for visuals... maybe thats just me tho.



I think visuals are awesome. They're definitely entertaining. Who are you to decide what tripping is for anyway? Some people just like to get high. I don't think LSD is that good for introspection anyway, I reserve mushrooms for that and LSD for getting 'high as a kite'



Argh. I agree there is no "right reason" to trip.

But taking a highly potent psychedelic drug just to see some patterns is a pretty awful idea, IMO.

You're asking for a world of trouble. And let me explain why I think that is: whether you're aware of it or not, there is a massive cognitive catharsis happening in your mind. To completely ignore this, could cause some mental issues.

Just my opinion. I love visuals as much as the next guy. But to tinker around with your brain to just to see visuals seems to sell the whole experience short.

And the OP specifically stated that he's trying to achieve "enlightenment" through visuals, which just really doesn't make a whole lot of sense.



This is all subjective. Just because one of my favorite things about LSD is the visuals, does not mean that by enjoying them, I am ignoring the 'cognitive catharsis' that is happening. Its impossible to ignore, in fact, and just the fact that I am embracing the visions means that I am not ignoring the whatever. Just think about what you're saying; It would be impossible to ignore the psychological aspect of an LSD trip and only experience the visuals. Its just kinda snooty of people to say that anyone who enjoys the visuals is missing the big picture...No I'm not, period.

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