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Re: OH shit. [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #12108952 - 02/27/10 03:54 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Depends on where you live, but for the most part everything on the internet is circumstantial...unless you're some kind of internet perv, then they'll hunt you down using the net...

Everything somebody posts could be BS, pictures could be much older than they are and just as an example, for all me know RR could be 8 years old and just very articulate, with some books on mycology. Though we know that ain't true, it doesn't mean the popo do.


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Re: OH shit. [Re: Synth Ethics]
    #12109054 - 02/27/10 04:12 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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I would love to know what this kids lawyer would think if he new he put all his case info on the shroomery:facepalm3:



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I would love to know what this kids lawyer would think if he new he put all his case info on the shroomery:facepalm3:




any reported case of someone being charged and have what he said on the shroomery used as an evidence against him???





and you really think they are going to dig up the shroomery:eek:
you guys are overreacting and scaring the poor soul for no reasons.
no one will look here. Stupid pigs don't even know this forum exist,
even if they do it's not understandable for them what are we doing here and why.
So just chill man.
Find some good lawyer and he will find some hole that two of you can use.:bobmarley:


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Re: OH shit. [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #12109297 - 02/27/10 04:59 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

You think that the Police DONT know about the shroomery?


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Re: OH shit. [Re: Cyanesense]
    #12109465 - 02/27/10 05:29 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

LOL type in magic mushrooms in google and the shroomery is top 6 lol

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Re: OH shit. [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #12112084 - 02/28/10 08:47 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)





and you really think they are going to dig up the shroomery:eek:
you guys are overreacting and scaring the poor soul for no reasons.
no one will look here. Stupid pigs don't even know this forum exist,
even if they do it's not understandable for them what are we doing here and why.
So just chill man.
Find some good lawyer and he will find some hole that two of you can use.:bobmarley:




To assume LEO are "stupid pigs" is a mistake. Im sure they know of the shroomery as well as most other drug related communities anyone here remember overgrow.com? one of the largest pot growing communities of the time...you get that big you become a target...ignorance is not bliss dont assume that LEO doesnt use the internet...come on

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Re: OH shit. [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #12112097 - 02/28/10 08:53 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Thank god for LEO. Only in a country where freedom and rights of it's citizens are one of the highest priorities, people can still can arrested and charged for growing mushrooms for personnel use.

I guess that's the problem with law enforment; it can't distinguish between the harmless criminals and the violent ones. Oh well:shrug:

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Re: OH shit. [Re: JonEveryman88]
    #12112113 - 02/28/10 08:57 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Thank god for LEO. Only in a country where freedom and rights of it's citizens are one of the highest priorities, people can still can arrested and charged for growing mushrooms for personnel use.

I guess that's the problem with law enforment; it can't distinguish between the harmless criminals and the violent ones. Oh well:shrug:



I get what you mean Jon, I couldnt not imagine living in the states personally..Iv said many times before I would be in prison within a year lol. In all seriousness tho...just look at the amount of non violent marijuana offenders locked up every year, I don't remember the exact number, but a large percentage of inmates are there for non violent drug charges...Land of the free my ass they need to put there time and effort into something constructive...and don't even get me started on the privatization of the prison systems...sorry for the rant but it is frustrating..I agree with your above statement 100%

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Re: OH shit. [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #12112125 - 02/28/10 09:02 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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JonEveryman88 said:
Thank god for LEO. Only in a country where freedom and rights of it's citizens are one of the highest priorities, people can still can arrested and charged for growing mushrooms for personnel use.

I guess that's the problem with law enforment; it can't distinguish between the harmless criminals and the violent ones. Oh well:shrug:



I get what you mean Jon, I couldnt not imagine living in the states personally..Iv said many times before I would be in prison within a year lol. In all seriousness tho...just look at the amount of non violent marijuana offenders locked up every year, I don't remember the exact number, but a large percentage of inmates are there for non violent drug charges...Land of the free my ass they need to put there time and effort into something constructive...and don't even get me started on the privatization of the prison systems...sorry for the rant but it is frustrating..I agree with your above statement 100%



if we the usa legalized marijuana alone and taxed it we would have an extra 54 billion a year to throw around


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Re: OH shit. [Re: punkrocker292004]
    #12112135 - 02/28/10 09:05 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

yea, fund the war some more:facepalm:


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Re: OH shit. [Re: Pscientist]
    #12112149 - 02/28/10 09:09 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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yea, fund the war some more:facepalm:




yea probably would but i'd be usin that money for health care or green energy:rolleyes:


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Re: OH shit. [Re: Pscientist]
    #12112173 - 02/28/10 09:15 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think marijuana should be legalized by the government to the point where they sell/ tax it, but to the point where it's not illegal to posses it. Hell, I'd even settle for just getting a small fine if you get caught with weed, rather then a criminal record/ jail time.

I've always found it interesting that people impost their laws on what I can and can not do with my body. The average human lives to be around 75 years old, which is a pretty short time if you think about it, and the government thinks they have the right to tell me what I can and can not do with my body, like smoking weed or taking mushrooms for a fun time. They are trying to steal my chance at living my own life experiences because they feel I may harm myself or others.

But I guess that's why we have laws like this; out of the many people who take drugs and do so responsibly, there is still a small percentage out there who do drugs, get stupid and do stupid things which can impose harm onto others. It's kind of a cheat; instead of trying to identify the non-violent offenders who are committing victimless crimes, the justice system would rather it have so all of use easy-going, pot smoking trippers land in jail.

If the government simply imposed a fine, let's say $500, for being caught with weed or some shrooms then the jails would be less crowded, the courts would be quicker, and the justice system would be true and fair. Not to mention that the average cost of sending someone to jail, even for the most minuscule of crimes, costs tens of thousands of dollars a year.

Go figure:shrug:

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Re: OH shit. [Re: JonEveryman88]
    #12112208 - 02/28/10 09:22 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Its a sad sad sight to see so many people affected by a pointless war on drugs. How many peoples lives have been ruined for choosing to grow/injest substances that have no recorded deaths(i.e THC, mushrooms). Its absolute nonsense and makes me cry inside a little bit. I think what it all comes down to is that those who take mind altering substances are dangerous, they do this little thing called thinking for themselves. When you have a mass population the last thing you want is free thought and the exchange of ideas. The government wants us all to be happy little sheep and goto work, smoke ciggys they get taxes on, come home drink a beer smack the wife around and goto bed. Its absolute bull. Anyone who thinks the government is not interested in controlling the masses and keeping us all docile and in line should google "The century of self" on google video and watch away.

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Re: OH shit. [Re: JonEveryman88]
    #12112214 - 02/28/10 09:23 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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I don't think marijuana should be legalized by the government to the point where they sell/ tax it, but to the point where it's not illegal to posses it. Hell, I'd even settle for just getting a small fine if you get caught with weed, rather then a criminal record/ jail time.





Then you still have a black market for large volume from mexico. It creates organized crime. Bad move.

The government regulates alcohol, tobacco, and pharmaceuticals. Why can't it regulate mj?


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Re: OH shit. [Re: anonjon]
    #12112249 - 02/28/10 09:31 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

pharmaceuticals are regulated poorly ,

tobacco is imposed because it is a great cash crop for them

Marijuana, should be what it is, simply nature, not applicable to laws, if you choose to grow crops of marijuana, thats your decision, your not modifying it to make drugs like cocaine or heroin , its simply a plant

if you choose to take your love to the next level and actively cultivate them in your home that  should also be your choice,


In the end we can't lose sight of what marijuana is,

Nature, pure and simple,


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Re: OH shit. [Re: anonjon]
    #12112287 - 02/28/10 09:40 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Then you still have a black market for large volume from mexico. It creates organized crime. Bad move.

The government regulates alcohol, tobacco, and pharmaceuticals. Why can't it regulate mj?




Ok, let's start a hypothetical here.

The government has just legalized marijuana and is setting up stores selling it like the liquor stores do. There are taxes on marijuana and the money attributed from it creates several billion dollars a year, we'll say 40 billion as a yearly average.

Now, take that 40 billion dollars and extract from it the amount of money it'll cost to off-set the effects of legalizing it. Like beefing up the border security between use/canada and use/ mexico. People are coming from both sides, buying weed, and bringing it back. Heck, some people are even buying pounds of the stuff in the USA, bringing it back home to a country where it is still illegal and are making huge profits off of it, profits which could go to crime, making/ acquiring other illicit drugs(eg, cocaine, heroine, etc). Now, we've got a major problem; the USA is getting harrassed by other countries because one of it's once illegal products, now legalized, is being bought, brought to another country and is potentially contributing to an increase in crime rates due to people selling it. So, the international relationships the USA has with certain other countries is going to deteriorate.

Second. Marijuana does have detrimental health effects (which I'm not going to list because I'm sure I'll get flamed by all the I-know-everything pot smokers out there), so now the USA's health care system is going to have an increase in health problems related to smoking marijuana, and likely an increase in traffic accidents/ injuries resulting from irresponsible people smoking and driving. This is going to lead to in increase of pressure of the health care system, increasing the amount of money it costs to take care of these ailing people. So, now we've just taken another chunk of money gained from the profit of legal marijuana.

Third. Stricter laws for marijuana use may be put in place. Laws such as no smoking and driving, similiar to the current no drinking and driving laws in place. This is going to increase the number of individuals charged with impaired driving, potentially off-setting the reduction in charges of people caught with marijuana before it was legalized.

Forth and most important: People WILL be pissed off Not everyone wants marijuana legalized, and there are A LOT of people out there with hardcore ideals such as religious people, or those who think people should take care of themselves, or whatever. This will create pressure on the government to de-legalize marijuana and will likely have a political after-shock as well, seeing how I'm sure eventually someone would run for office "promising" to de-legalize marijuana if elected, people promising to keep marijuana legal if elected, etc.

Sorry for the rant:grin: I'm bored. But yea, that's just my 2 cents, my opinion to which I am entitled.

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Re: OH shit. [Re: Pscientist]
    #12112289 - 02/28/10 09:41 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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In the end we can't lose sight of what marijuana is,

Nature, pure and simple,




are u that naive? cocaine is all natural too, and opium, heroine, etc..

You describing some kind of imaginary lala land talking about love and mother nature and shit.


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Re: OH shit. [Re: anonjon]
    #12112318 - 02/28/10 09:46 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I understand cocaine is natural in a sense too, but in reality everything is natural and must somehow come from the earth in some way,

what Im saying is Marijuana grows like a crop of corn or wheat , its a natural plant and requires no chemical steps to use

Colombians chew coca leaves for a buzz, that is natural in my eyes,

but synthesizing cocaine hcl from the leaves is not a truly natural form of  a drug,

heroin, opium and codeine  all come form poppies ,

when made in a pod tea I can understand that being natural but heroin is extracted as is codeine etc

mushrooms grow naturally, they require no chemical steps to use, therefore they are completely natural

LSD is synthesized from ergot fungus , therefore I would not consider it natural even though it comes from a fungus, it requires chemical steps to become what it is. Or the interruption of man if you like

understand my argument?


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    #12112373 - 02/28/10 09:58 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

''understand my argument?''

Yes!
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Re: OH shit. [Re: Pscientist]
    #12112381 - 02/28/10 10:00 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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I understand cocaine is natural in a sense too, but in reality everything is natural and must somehow come from the earth in some way,

what Im saying is Marijuana grows like a crop of corn or wheat , its a natural plant and requires no chemical steps to use

Colombians chew coca leaves for a buzz, that is natural in my eyes,

but synthesizing cocaine hcl from the leaves is not a truly natural form of  a drug,

heroin, opium and codeine  all come form poppies ,

when made in a pod tea I can understand that being natural but heroin is extracted as is codeine etc

mushrooms grow naturally, they require no chemical steps to use, therefore they are completely natural

LSD is synthesized from ergot fungus , therefore I would not consider it natural even though it comes from a fungus, it requires chemical steps to become what it is. Or the interruption of man if you like

understand my argument?




100% yes. Good point there.

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Re: OH shit. [Re: anti-flag]
    #12112433 - 02/28/10 10:12 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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I would love to know what this kids lawyer would think if he new he put all his case info on the shroomery:facepalm3:




You think local Ohio cops who caught a college kid with a tiny dorm room grow operation with no mushrooms are going to wade through hundreds of thousands of posts on this relatively obscure internet forum to find his post?  You think this case will ever even make it to trial?  I'm sure the DA has a whole team working on this case right now because they don't have fuck else to do besides try to bust a college kid with rich parents who is trying to better himself.

I don't know why you're giving this kid such a hard time.  Yes it's in the wrong forum, boo hoo.  Yes, he did something stupid, almost everyone has done stupid shit when they're young.  Looking back I think most people that grow up can think of a few times when they got fucking lucky and that's why they didn't die or go to prison. The people who can't look back at such times are mostly all pussies who never took any chances anyway.

To the original poster, what everyone above is reacting on is the letter of the law.  Yes, they could weigh out the cakes and probably send you to ass rape prison for twenty years if they really wanted to, but they won't.  These people don't know what the fuck they are talking about, but they are really attached to their opinions so no one can tell them otherwise.  Just post back in a few months after your lawyer cuts a deal and you keep going to school and do a little community service, pay a fine, and spend a year or two on probation. 

Good Luck and don't break any laws until this is resolved (don't even smoke pot).

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