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Hsu
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automated FAE - Fogger or Humidifier?
#12092941 - 02/25/10 12:35 AM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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This is the fogger http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6252361
I will be hooking up some monos and I NEED to automate FAE. there can be no fanning. im not asking to be spoon fed. just asking for some insight from users with more experience than me. I want to start off with the right setup so I do not waste any money.
The humidifier or fogger will be run 10 minutes every 4-6 hours as suggested by agar. Anyone know any more about these 2 and how they comapre to each other?
-------------------- LxWxH in inches then multiply .55 (the amount of fl oz in a square inch) then divide that number by 128 (the amount of fl oz in a gallon) to get an accurate amount of volume for the space.
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Shea25
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Re: automated FAE - Fogger or Humidifier? [Re: Hsu]
#12092952 - 02/25/10 12:37 AM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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Whats the point a mono is a self sufficient system already no need for any of that. It can be a set it and forget type thing already
Edited by Shea25 (02/25/10 12:38 AM)
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Hsu
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Re: automated FAE - Fogger or Humidifier? [Re: Shea25]
#12092985 - 02/25/10 12:44 AM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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Shea25 said: Whats the point a mono is a self sufficient system already no need for any of that. It can be a set it and forget type thing already
i understand that a monotub provides its own RH and FAE. These are not going to have any airflow to give the monos passive fae. so the mono will keep its RH, yes but will have 0 FAE. the monos are being stored under a stairwell.
-------------------- LxWxH in inches then multiply .55 (the amount of fl oz in a square inch) then divide that number by 128 (the amount of fl oz in a gallon) to get an accurate amount of volume for the space.
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Re: automated FAE - Fogger or Humidifier? [Re: Hsu]
#12092996 - 02/25/10 12:46 AM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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Ah is it a really confined stairwell, I have done grows by setting and forgetting in small places with no air flow on them and they turned out okay. Not perfect but alright for me
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Hsu
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Re: automated FAE - Fogger or Humidifier? [Re: Shea25]
#12093011 - 02/25/10 12:51 AM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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Shea25 said: Ah is it a really confined stairwell, I have done grows by setting and forgetting in small places with no air flow on them and they turned out okay. Not perfect but alright for me
yeah its small enough for maybe 4 tubs. I am going to have one for the fogger and 3 full of sub. there is def not enough room for fae even if i left the door open
-------------------- LxWxH in inches then multiply .55 (the amount of fl oz in a square inch) then divide that number by 128 (the amount of fl oz in a gallon) to get an accurate amount of volume for the space.
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avorg
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Re: automated FAE - Fogger or Humidifier? [Re: Hsu]
#12093221 - 02/25/10 02:07 AM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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I would go for an impeller driven cool mist humidifier. It seems like that fogger is way more than you'll need, and will create excess moisture(not good)
I have one(cool mist) in a greenhouse on 15min/off 45min, and it's perfect, so it should be fine for your purposes. Also it's not very large.
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kiyote
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Re: automated FAE - Fogger or Humidifier? [Re: avorg]
#12093727 - 02/25/10 07:54 AM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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I use PC fans with a filter on the side of tubs for FAE. They're connected to a power supply unit which is connected to a timer and run for about five minutes every couple of hours. You can find them at any computer store.
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Re: automated FAE - Fogger or Humidifier? [Re: kiyote]
#12093774 - 02/25/10 08:09 AM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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I have been doing monotubs for awhile now and they seem to do much better with a fogger or humidifer type system. The problem with mono's is that the air gets stagnant around the lower edges and creates a good enviroment for trich. For the first flush you dont have to worry about contams but the second and third flush you do. The trick is to pump in humid air without saturating your substrate with too much water. I have gotten zero contams with monotubs when using a system that pumps in air.
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Re: automated FAE - Fogger or Humidifier? [Re: Cloneufc]
#12093888 - 02/25/10 08:48 AM (14 years, 8 days ago) |
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What good is it going to do once the entire closet gets saturated with CO2? Isn't the air you pump in going to be as CO2 saturated as what's in the tubs? I'd find a place out in the open. RR
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Re: automated FAE - Fogger or Humidifier? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#12094269 - 02/25/10 10:16 AM (14 years, 7 days ago) |
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That is true. Most people only have closets to work with. You can always plumb your closet with 2inch PVC pipe to an outside source like I do. I have mine drill into the attic and then 90 degrees to the outside vent. The easier or ghetto way is to plumb your PVC pipe to a cracked window. Works fine for cubes but for edibles outside is best.
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Re: automated FAE - Fogger or Humidifier? [Re: Cloneufc]
#12094331 - 02/25/10 10:27 AM (14 years, 7 days ago) |
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i would say don't use a fogger for this. ultrasonic units don't have a very long lifespan and are more expensive.
As for your humidifier, for a greenhouse where you want to have maximum rh, an impeller type is good. But if you're just using it for fae on small timed intervals, any humidifier is going to work for you. For that use, the quality of the fan is the more important factor. Also you want a unit that you can easily modify. Some cheap units u can simply duct tape the exhaust shut, drill or burn a hole for your air hose (garden hose, black tubing, pvc, whatever) and shove it in.
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