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OfflineGrizzly Adams
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questions about police searches in vehicles.
    #12093274 - 02/25/10 02:39 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I just got done reading a bunch of the legal information off of erowid and I was kinda uncertain about a couple of things regarding the law.

1.If an officer of the law cannot tell you to "go" somewhere or "leave" unless you may cause danger...
does this apply when an officer asks you to step out of a vehicle?
can an officer legally get you out of your vehicle if you are not under arrest?

2.Does being pulled over for speeding, running a light, or any other misdemeanor OR being in a road block give the police a right to make you step out of your vehicle?

3.does anyone know if the police are allowed to pat down your bra if your a woman? only curious because I've heard people say police cant touch yer boobs unless your a female cop.

its very strange to me after reading all this information why anyone would ever get caught driving with anything illegal from simply just getting pulled over and I know at least 3 people who it has happened to!

Edited by Grizzly Adams (02/25/10 03:35 AM)

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Re: questions about police searches in vehicles. [Re: Grizzly Adams]
    #12094042 - 02/25/10 09:37 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'd wager that many police are unclear on that law themselves.

I'd also wager that if they tell you to to step out and you outright refuse, you will be pulled out of your vehicle in a very violent and rough manner.

Personally I've mused on this myself and wish someone knew a definitive answer.  The best I can come up with is to ask them directly (supposedly while his camera is recording you two) "Are you requesting that I step out of my vehicle or lawfully ordering me to do so?"

At this point, they may bypass the question, or simply repeat the question at which point you're in a bit of a tricky position.

At the end of the day though, I try to simply avoid carrying anything on me at any time while in a vehicle.

if you can't eat it in the event of emergency, don't bring it along.


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Re: questions about police searches in vehicles. [Re: Humility]
    #12094687 - 02/25/10 11:23 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I would def. ask first if he is demanding or asking.

I ask these questions because the last time I got pulled over(like a year ago) I was pulled over for speeding on the interstate, well my friend was technically(I don't speed) and I was in the passenger seat. me and my friend were fighting as well and I think thats why we were going so fast in the first place.
when the cop came to the window I think he noticed we were angry because he then told me to step out of the vehicle after he took her license and told me to come talk to him. I did because I wasn't aware that he was "asking me to do things" because I was not educated on cop mind fuck games. well I'm sorta glad I did because he ended up letting us go after I talked to him and he decided to not write a ticket to my friend.

It ended nicely this time but I'm certain this was the one good cop out of the whole state. (even though i feel like a ticket should have been wrote since we were going like 90 miles an hour.) good for us bad for the other people in danger. cops make a lot of sense right?

I just found it odd at the time he would ask me to step out. I would have rather not judging by my instinct but i felt i had no choice.

Edited by Grizzly Adams (02/25/10 11:33 AM)

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Re: questions about police searches in vehicles. [Re: Grizzly Adams]
    #12095141 - 02/25/10 12:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

only reason a cop could have a reasonable excuse to search is if there is probably cause like drivin like an asshole, weed smoke whiffin out, slurred speach....etc...

i love when i have nothing on me and they ask to search i let em...fcking pigs think everyones on drugs.

ive been pulled with a bong and an oz....for speeding..gave em the info and off on my way...

DONT SMOKE IN CARS...


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Re: questions about police searches in vehicles. [Re: Grizzly Adams]
    #12102932 - 02/26/10 03:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Grizzly Adams said:
I just got done reading a bunch of the legal information off of erowid and I was kinda uncertain about a couple of things regarding the law.

1.If an officer of the law cannot tell you to "go" somewhere or "leave" unless you may cause danger...
does this apply when an officer asks you to step out of a vehicle?
can an officer legally get you out of your vehicle if you are not under arrest?

2.Does being pulled over for speeding, running a light, or any other misdemeanor OR being in a road block give the police a right to make you step out of your vehicle?

3.does anyone know if the police are allowed to pat down your bra if your a woman? only curious because I've heard people say police cant touch yer boobs unless your a female cop.

its very strange to me after reading all this information why anyone would ever get caught driving with anything illegal from simply just getting pulled over and I know at least 3 people who it has happened to!



when you are pulled over just be respectful and dont consent to any searches of your vehicle. Cops can and will make up shit more often  if you're being ass to them to search your car. So if you have something in your car when a police pulls you over just be nice but dont consent to a search of your car. they can pat you down but i dont think they will check the bra unless they already found some evidence of possesion of drugs or possibly dealing drugs.


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Re: questions about police searches in vehicles. [Re: cyber.g]
    #12113220 - 02/28/10 12:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Cops are going to make you step out if they feel like it.  I can't see any legal grounds why you would have any right to refuse.

In most states routine stops are illegal, so you must have committed a violation in the first place.

There's no advantage I can see to refuse either, except that it sets you up for a pat down.  If you do refuse the cop is just going to think you're hiding something or about to pull a gun, destroy evidence, etc..


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