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OfflineMickyFinn
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Jar Success Rates
    #1207215 - 01/10/03 03:23 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I was just curious, over the last couple of months, ive gotten back into this hobby again.  the thing ive noticed that ive had a problem with is the last 24 jars ive done, ive lost 8.  thats roughly 1/3 of wasted time and energy.  none of these have been lost to mean green.  none of these jars ever started growing, they just sat there and continue to do so, stalled out.  the only thing i can imagine is that they did not get enough solution.  ive made my own syringes, but never to the point where the syringe is purple with spores.  could it be that im running out of spores towards the end on innoculation?  i do shake the syringe in between knock ups, and i have not had this problem when i first started this hobby. why now? :confused: 


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: MickyFinn]
    #1207258 - 01/10/03 03:41 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

maybe your like one of my friends and got too stoned....and forgot to inoculate a few jars.  :smirk:

 


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: Roadkill]
    #1207261 - 01/10/03 03:42 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Have an incubator?


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: SixCee]
    #1207265 - 01/10/03 03:44 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

yeah I have 4 incubators?
why?


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: Roadkill]
    #1207272 - 01/10/03 03:48 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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maybe your like one of my friends and got too stoned....and forgot to inoculate a few jars. 



lol Road, i do admit to a habit, but ive never been motivated to mess with fungus during a session :wink:


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: MickyFinn]
    #1207277 - 01/10/03 03:49 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Lol Roadkill I bet you have hundreds of incubators. I was asking micky. Incubators really decrease full colonization time.


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: SixCee]
    #1207290 - 01/10/03 03:53 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

come on 6 why wouldnt i?... hold on incubators decreasing colonization? what are you talking about?


Edited by MickyFinn (01/10/03 03:54 PM)


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: MickyFinn]
    #1207297 - 01/10/03 03:56 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I am saying how without an incubator you have to wait a lot longer to see signs of growth as compared to with a incubator. And I said it decreases the time from innoc. to full colonization.


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: SixCee]
    #1207309 - 01/10/03 04:01 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

im aware that without an incubator colonization takes longer. i dont think the incubator is the problem. i have one. and what decreases? im not following you on that?


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: MickyFinn]
    #1207320 - 01/10/03 04:06 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Ok I wont use the word decrease anymore its kind of saying not not which means the opposite of not....

This happened to me once and many others. Usually you just throw it out and try again. You might have a contam in there, I did once and it didnt smell at all until I tried to case the 'stalled' jar...


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Edited by SixCee (01/10/03 04:06 PM)


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: MickyFinn]
    #1207345 - 01/10/03 04:26 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Mickey,

I was thinking...maybe you got a bacterial contam in those jars.
Maybe crack one open and see if you have a nasty sour smell.



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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: Roadkill]
    #1207356 - 01/10/03 04:31 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)


:grin: 


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #1207358 - 01/10/03 04:32 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

What does your substrate look like? Nothing growing at all and no visible contamination might mean your mix is all wrong.


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: Roadkill]
    #1207360 - 01/10/03 04:33 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

oh i know those jars are gone, im not going to risk a whiff,  :grin:, im just trying to figure out what could have been the cause.


Edited by MickyFinn (01/10/03 04:34 PM)


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: MickyFinn]
    #1207371 - 01/10/03 04:39 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

k

better safe than sorry...your correct.
but I would have opened and felt the substrate and smelled it though.



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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: Roadkill]
    #1207403 - 01/10/03 04:54 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)



  i also have 2 jars out of ten that are doing nothing, the rest are about ready to go. ( yes i will let them sit for a while longer ) but i was wondering if when i got to the bottom of the syringe if my solution wasnt as strong ? i know it only takes 1 spore but it seems strange that 2 jars are doing nothing when all were done the exact same way at the same time. actually im happy :laugh: that the other 8 are doing so well (10 days ) 


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: DSD]
    #1207411 - 01/10/03 04:57 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)



P.S. - i incubated mine on top of the hot water tank, working out great so far !


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: MickyFinn]
    #1207412 - 01/10/03 04:57 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Hey did u mix all the stuff in one big bowl, I did that one time and all the flour kind of goes to the bottom. its usually bad cause u get the wrong amounts in each jar and sometimes they dont grow.


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: SubGen1us]
    #1207423 - 01/10/03 05:04 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)



Sub
  actually i mixed them 2 jars at a time, obviously my recipe was a little off on one of the mixes,but i was carefull to try and keep each mix the same. im hoping that they are just late bloomers ! :grin: 


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Re: Jar Success Rates [Re: SubGen1us]
    #1207436 - 01/10/03 05:10 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

now there's an interesting explanation. i do deviate from the recommended formula. i usually use 1/2 cup verm, 1 cup of brf 1/2 cup water. but there is a possibility that my formula did not mix correctly, but i am kinda leaning towards not enough spore solution.


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