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 First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal 
#12066238 - 02/20/10 03:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm going to be tripping soon, but I just have one question before I do so. I can't decide whether to eat 2 grams normal or lemon tek 1 gram of mushrooms. I'm not looking for an especially long trip so the shortened duration of the lemon tek is not a deciding factor for me. The lemon tek is appealing to me since it can be a huge money saver since shrooms are expensive around here. The only bad thing I've heard about the lemon tek method is that there isn't much tripping, only a come up and come down. Is this true? If so, would it be more beneficial to go without the lemon tek the first time? I know I could always try it later, but I have a feeling it's going to be a while before I can get my hands on some more shrooms and I only have 2 grams at the moment. Basically should I do one regular trip or two lemon tek trips?
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 Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: reset]
#12066251 - 02/20/10 04:00 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have the same question.
A shorter trip might be better for me. 
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: Istigkeit]
#12066326 - 02/20/10 04:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would just take about 3 grams, normal, if its your first time.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: proudeskimo]
#12066341 - 02/20/10 04:14 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm actually looking for a shorter trip and I'm not doing more than 2 grams my first time.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: proudeskimo] 1
#12066367 - 02/20/10 04:18 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I ate my shrooms normally on my first time and recently used the lemon tek for a recent trip. Based on this two i'd recommend you eat them normally, it is way more enjoyable as you peak longer than using the lemon tek and thus get a better grasp of the experience
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: Horsewithnoname]
#12066468 - 02/20/10 04:34 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think eating them normally is better for first time....
Find out what they are like, The way G-d intended.  
Then you have a basis from which to gauge all other prep teks.
I would say, chew and swallow. Go for 2-3g.
For all you know, Shrooms are the worst experience ever...... Or, maybe your one of those people who will end up tripping for 16hrs from lemon tek (read the thread, apparantly some people get longer trips out of it.)
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: Shad0w]
#12066628 - 02/20/10 05:03 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright, I'm going to save the lemon tek for future trips. So should I eat these 2 grams strait up or grind them into a powder, put 'em in some orange juice, and chug it?
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: reset]
#12066708 - 02/20/10 05:20 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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No OJ, just put 1.5-2 g's into like a sandwich or something. Or just pop em and chew then eat a little food after to get your metabolism goin and rid the taste.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: CJCollin37]
#12066988 - 02/20/10 06:13 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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OK, thanks guys.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: reset] 1
#12067003 - 02/20/10 06:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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The lemon tek comes on soo hard that it might scare you and send your trip to hell. A regular dose comes up slower and easier, so you can get used to it.
It doesn't save money though. You use half the mushrooms, but you trip half as long.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: BothHands]
#12067980 - 02/20/10 09:14 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Excellent advice! Thanks
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: reset]
#12068319 - 02/20/10 10:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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eat the fruits whole.
Ive done both, and would reccomend the "regular" way for a beginner, as was said - the quick come up may freak you out a lil.
even making some Tea is alright, but I think eating the whole fruit is the best/natural way to do it.
you get the whole experience that way...
the "Oh shit here it comes" come-up
then "oh this isnt so bad, everything is going to be great"
then the "that was so mentally/spiritually helpful" comedown
Lemon Tek is harder to enjoy for someone who maybe doesnt have alot of experience tripping.
and 2 grams sounds like a great starting dose.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: Cyanesense]
#12068523 - 02/20/10 10:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nothing beats eating them whole.
Best experience, only down side is maybe a bit of stomach discomfort.
I personally hate lemon tek, there is no actual trip, just a comeup and a comedown.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: Tangich]
#12070059 - 02/21/10 09:42 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Tangich said:
Nothing beats eating them whole.
Best experience, only down side is maybe a bit of stomach discomfort.
I personally hate lemon tek, there is no actual trip, just a comeup and a comedown.
You probably aren't lemon-teking enough. With a 6 gram lemon tek, you have a good 4 hour peak. Comeup is extremely anxious though.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: BothHands] 1
#12070184 - 02/21/10 10:08 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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For me, lemon teking is fun, but a normal trip is WAY better. When I lemon teked the come up was swifter and more intense, the peak was shorter and the comedown was quicker. I literally felt myself come up and come down. Despite what some people say, there's definitely a peak with lemon tek, it's simply shorter. And even after I came down I still tripped for a little while, just not peaking.
I say eat 2g normal. You'll love it.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: BothHands]
#12070203 - 02/21/10 10:11 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah now that I think about it, eating em whole is def the way to go cuz when things go "normally" and the comeup lasts an hour or so, its like one of the best parts. As you gradually start tripping you get giggly and really giddy and happy which is a great way to start tripping.
Although, my first time i took close to an eighth whole with no food and for some reason i was pretty much peaking in about 15 mins, TOTALLY not ready for that. I think it had somethin to do with the bong i ripped right before the shrooms started kickin my ass. So no weed homie. And as a semi-experienced tripper, 2 grams is my dose of choice though even that seems like a lot to me at times. I'd go 1.5 if i were u.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: CJCollin37]
#12070319 - 02/21/10 10:38 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm planning on not eating 4 hours before the trip. Should I eat something right after I eat the mushrooms or during the trip?
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: reset]
#12070331 - 02/21/10 10:41 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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You might not feel like eating once you are good and tripping....
But, a piece of fresh fruit is generally easy to eat.
Try to have whatever you are going to eat already prep'd.
SETTING : A bottle of water, a Blanket, Music already to go... And some fresh fruit.
You can do it either way, just keep the meal light.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: reset]
#12070332 - 02/21/10 10:41 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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The more you eat during, or directly after digestion, the slower your absorption. This means a longer, but less intense trip.
When you start coming up, you should be able to eat. So like 30 minutes after ingestion. Probably won't be hungry anymore though.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: BothHands]
#12070390 - 02/21/10 10:57 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lemon tek might get your mental frame bent a little too quick.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: ghost_FL]
#12070438 - 02/21/10 11:10 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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OK, now I'm deciding between eating them whole or powdered.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: reset]
#12070463 - 02/21/10 11:16 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would go with powdered
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: BothHands]
#12073093 - 02/21/10 06:59 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
BothHands said:
The more you eat during, or directly after digestion, the slower your absorption. This means a longer, but less intense trip.
When you start coming up, you should be able to eat. So like 30 minutes after ingestion. Probably won't be hungry anymore though.
I'm not sure about that... I think the absorption is better because the food gets your metabolism going which allows the shrooms to be metabolized faster. I could be wrong though.
Personally I never feel like eating when tripping cause honestly its too much to handle for me. I like being on a half full stomach then eating a little food mixed with my shrooms... That's my suggestion.
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: CJCollin37]
#12073615 - 02/21/10 08:15 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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The food in your stomach gets in the way. Your shrooms become "diluted" to some effect. Your body needs to process 15 times more material to get the same amount of actives. It takes much, much longer to process all that material.
Also, I don't believe you fully understand what metabolism is. An increase in metabolism increases the rate at which calories are burned; an increase in metabolism does not increase the rate at which calories (among other things), are absorbed.
Edited by BothHands (02/22/10 09:10 PM)
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Re: First timer advice: lemon tek vs. normal [Re: BothHands]
#12074656 - 02/21/10 11:07 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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i wouldnt eat during a trip
sure its semi fun and enjoy able but i feel it kills the trip.
just eat em normally dude, that'll show you what trippings like
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