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Locating a Shaman
#1206529 - 01/10/03 08:12 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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I live in Saskatchewan, Canada and am interested in locating a Shaman healer as a source for psychotherapy. I mean a Shaman like Ralph Metzner who would go out in a forest and take ayahuasca with me. If someone could please give me some advice or suggestions on how to contact one let me know.
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Check your classifieds first, then go about contacting others who might know one.
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Too bad Terence McKenna isn't alive anymore.
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Swami]
#1206543 - 01/10/03 08:20 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am very kinky, but not that kinky. Yes, too bad Terence Mckenna isn't a live anymore. Maybe I should give Ralph Metzner an e mail and see if he can help me out.
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Come a little ways west to Calgary. I have been known to act in a shamanic capacity -- make you shit your pants, I will. But in a good way! Full panopoly of occult powers: spirit helpers, spontaneous glossolalia, channelled writings, and damn sexy to boot. Give your soul a nice workout. Whatever!
Once I hurt my back and a Tsimshian shaman fixed it in minutes by whispering to my spine. Damndest thing...
... course I still had to go to the chiropractor the next day. Which just goes to shoe...

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Are you looking for a shaman healer in your area? You have to be very careful with healing of this nature, as most 'Shaman's' are really entrepeneurs full of bullshit. Your own true self is the best teacher you can have. A spiritual guide can only point you in a certain direction, it is up to you to find your own true path. If you put your will into growing the components of your own ayhuasca, and you conquer any fears you might have of performing the ritual alone, than you will learn more than any shaman can ever teach you.
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Remy]
#1206859 - 01/10/03 10:12 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, I am thinking I should try and obtain my own ayhuasca. I do need some guidance though it seems, and I can't find anyone that can help.
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I could be wrong but I don't think ayahuasca grows in Saskatchewan.
Good luck!
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: ]
#1206978 - 01/10/03 10:58 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was thinking about ordering stuff to make it.
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In that case I would let the Shaman come to me instead of seeking one out.
My experience has been that those who charge are not the ones to consort with.
Good Luck!
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Ya, actually by now I should realise that outside help isn't the answer. I have given up on psychiatrists and psychologists, maybe I was just hoping shamans were the answer now, I am not sure. Basically I think I need a monthly dose of LSD, only I can't find any. That seems to have been the best analystical tool, only the effects only seem to last a while after the trip. I have deeply imbedded imprints of obsevving thoughts that I cannot get over no matter what it seems.
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Not all Shaman's slap you down on a log in front of a fire, and toss some psychoactive tea in front of you, although they may.  When you find your healer, you may not need any substance at all...you may close your eyes, let the Shaman pray, and then feel 100% better. Just wanted to point out not all rituals involve ingesting or smoking sacred plants
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: EthnoJimmy]
#1207011 - 01/10/03 11:23 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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I understand that. I guess I was saying that, because I know a lot of Shamans want money, and won't do anything to really help. I want the real deal treatment here : (), Terence Mckenna style.
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Absolutely...I agree that an experience with someone on that level would blow anyone's head. I honestly hope you find what you're looking for. You're obviously serious about your search, and you appear to idolize McKenna in a sense(likewise), have you considered a trip to the Amazon? If you can't actually talk with McKenna, why not follow in his footsteps? It may take a year or two to save for the trip, but you just may find what you're looking for.
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: EthnoJimmy]
#1207104 - 01/10/03 12:11 PM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes, I definately would like to go there someday. Terence says after spending a week in the amazon, the cosmic giggle becomes your friend.
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Ya, actually by now I should realise that outside help isn't the answer. I have given up on psychiatrists and psychologists, maybe I was just hoping shamans were the answer now, I am not sure. Basically I think I need a monthly dose of LSD, only I can't find any
Judging from your posts it sounds like the only thing you need is not to rely on your needs. A monthly dose of LSD will only make you much worse than you already are. You can learn from psychedelics, but if you want to learn from them, you must first learn self-reliance, and how to stop clinging to matter (and ideas, but not instinctual thought). You can get a lot further without drugs than you can with them. If you want to make a true ayhuasca, you must use plants you have sought out, or you have grown, for then you lend them your spirit, and they lend you yours. And don't expect all the answers, especially if you are relying on the Ayhuasca to provide them. I know of several texts/papers that may help you. I'll send you what I have on the computer, and the names of the others.
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Remy]
#1207223 - 01/10/03 01:25 PM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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I understand you are just providing me with advice, but I am more farther on the journey than you probably think, and I know I shouldn't look for answers, or not look for answers. That is the zen way, LSD only ever makes me feel better for about a month after as I reimprint my brain. It rips away my rigid belief system, and I get reborn into a better self.
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The Zen way is only the first step. Enlightenment only puts you on the path, it is the beginning. The path is much longer, and just to reach enlightenment, one must give up all drugs (there are exceptions to what can be considered a drug but LSD certaintly is not one). The mushroom has a lot more to teach than any hit of LSD. I find LSD very misleading, although it has helped me to find some truths. These are all just my beliefs, use them or ignore them at your choosing, for I am not trying to lay them upon you, only trying to provide some help.
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Maybe you just need a self-emptying - a catharsis. There are easier ways to vomit, and you don't need more than salt-water and your finger - No shaman required! Seems you're looking for a good tripping partner, but is that really what you need?
But seriously, shamen belong to cultures and situations outside your own. Why not consider a soul guide (psychopomp, i.e., a cleric) or caregiver of souls (psychotherapist) - both of which serve the same archetypal purpose in your own culture. Just because one ferrets out an individual with connections to a tribal society, who calls him/herself a shaman, doesn't mean the person is good, or even 'credentialled.' Not all clerics (clearly!) are good, nor are all therapists created equal, but you won't have the ridiculous obstacles of familiarizing yourself with an alien worldview to the extent that would be necessary for healing to occur. Transference works with rattles and feathers as much as with the analyst's couch. Hell, I know a freak who tatooed all kinds of Tibetan stuff on himself, got some Tibetan lama robes, and gives 'initiations' to the gullible. Unless one is really quite connected to a culture, how is one to know the true from the false?
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I'm not even connected to THIS culture, Markos... How do I know the good psychotherapists from the bad? I'm afraid to even look for someone.... I want to be hypnotized and asked questions, but I think it would be dangerous with someone I didn't trust or who didn't know what they were doing.
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Adamist]
#1208524 - 01/11/03 05:01 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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You need to ask people for references, or call up several therapists and ask them questions about their areas of expertise. I, for one, welcome such inquiries, and I'm obliged to tell people what I'm not experienced in treating or not certified to treat. I did this phone work for my Lady when she wanted a therapist. I also called up several lawyers when I needed to divorce my ex-wife. Some were pure a**holes who told me to simply leave. Wrong answer. Others didn't have answers to my simple questions. Wrong again. Hey, if you pick, say, a dentist whom you don't like, you don't go back, you look for another. Same with a mental health practitioner. As to the trust issue, I always offer a free consultation so people can have their fears dismissed. Of course, I can afford the time to do this because my private work is part-time. You can learn quite a bit on the phone - more even than one can learn on a forum like this 'cause you can pick up verbal nuances. Nothing to be afraid of Bud; a hypnotist is not gonna hurt you. If a client isn't ready to remember certain things and begins to abreact emotionally, one stops proceeding. We don't want to re-traumatize the client, and we certainly do not want to be sued for doing that either. One must be gentle.
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How about locating a mystic? I've been meaning to chat with one of them for quite a while. I need to talk with someone whos a mystic and also n lightened. I live in the UK. Next month i'm planning to open up yellow pages and go thorugh whole spiritual community in London. Does anyone know any mystics over here?
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: ]
#1211159 - 01/12/03 04:24 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mystics don't advertise in the phone book. Anyone hanging out a shingle with the word 'mystic,' is not. {S]he is most likely mad. Enlightenment is by degree, it is relative. I am more enlightened now, than I was 25 years ago, and I am more enlightened than some people, but less enlightened than others.
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Yes i would imagine so. What i meant to say was i would contact someone i found in yellow pages and ask THEM if they can help me find the right individual.
Do you think that would work?
Mate if you were me how would you find a proper mystic in the UK?
ps. not necessary a mystic but a magician will do
Edited by Illuminatus Neophilius (01/13/03 01:26 AM)
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: ]
#1213367 - 01/13/03 03:24 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Be careful when looking for mystics, there is a lot of bullshit out there. There is, however, an excellent community of Sufi groups, and several great leaders, who live or visit periodically in the UK.
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Remy]
#1213389 - 01/13/03 03:34 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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"Sufi groups"? What would be my chances of getting in touch with one of them?
I have several businesses. One of them is i got this copy of Neconomicon and i have scheduled summoning ceremonies for early/late spring.
Before i go through it i'd need someone to talk about this and other matters.
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: ]
#1213402 - 01/13/03 03:43 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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What exactly do you need a mystic for? just curious...
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: ]
#1213608 - 01/13/03 05:17 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is it the Avon edition?
Or the more authoritative Wilson/Hay edition put out by Corgi in the late 80's?
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: GazzBut]
#1214182 - 01/13/03 09:18 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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What exactly do you need a mystic for? just curious...
I just said in the previous post.
Landotter, it is a privet Latin translation.
So is anyone going to help me find a mystic? Or a shaman or magician in the UK?
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: ]
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Well, you'll have to make up your mind. When I was in London, I went to the b British Museum and sat down in front of John Dee's pantacles, crystal balls and skrying stones. I suppose, if I'd thought about it, I could have requested ahead of time, a private viewing, as a 'visiting scholar,' of some of his other personal effects. That would've more than sufficed for me. Access 'The Magician Within,' as the book by Moore & Gillette is titled - that is the ONLY way to go
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: ]
#1216392 - 01/14/03 03:01 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Landotter, it is a privet Latin translation.
(the Landotter is now officially rolling on the floor and laughing)
Woohooo! You go, Neo! Good luck with that! Dude, if you couldn't understand my Latin from a previous post, how do you expect to summon a Great Old One properly from your "private Latin translation"? If "Army of Darkness" has taught us anything (and it hasn't) it's that a mispronounced word will get you nice and killed or, in this case, worse. Sounds like you should put the ol' Necronomicon away until you're older and a little wiser and maybe get started with some basic ritual magic.
Just some good-humoured advice - take it or leave it. Unless of course you enjoy getting your consciousness raped, mutated and fed upon by trans-dimensional motherfuckers from the broom-closet of the Abyss. To each his own...
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I never said i knew Latin, it was translated from Latin.
And i meant semi translated. All the chanting is left in original form and i know how to prononce it.
And please keep your reccomendations about puting it away to yourself. If i wanted you opinion regarding demonology or my toporgaphy i would beat it out of you.
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Also i can feel your monkey neophobic fear of the New.
I once said that purpose of neophobes is no greater than the purpose of germs in my anus.
That saying is getting more credible day after day.
Go and leach through you life in fear, without progress or accomplishment. Speaking of fear, i already been in touch with KUTULU a long time ago and boy, has it got some monster plans for you all!
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: ]
#1216512 - 01/14/03 03:59 AM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ladies and gentlemen of the Shroomery, I give you as fine a specimen of unpleasant humanity as possible. Moderators, start your engines...
>Your mama, your mama will enjoy her stinky ass hole raped on a nazi cross.
My mama (bless her dear departed soul) would smile sweetly as she put poison in your tea and we'd all be better off.
>(the Landotter is now officially rolling on the floor and laughing)
(the Landotter is now officially worried for the future)
>And mods dont you tell me about nice policies, he started and i fisnied it.
Indeed. You have fisnied with the v. best.
>Oh and i never said i knew Latin, it was translated from Latin. >And i meant semi translated.
Then you should have said.
>All the chanting is left in original form and i >know how to prononce it.
Though not how to spell it.
>And please keep your reccomendations about puting it away to yourself. If i >wanted you opinion regarding demonology or my toporgaphy i would beat it out of >you.
Well, you could certainly try. But before you do, you should get your "toporgaphy" seen to ... it looks swollen and infected and you don't want that sort of thing to spread.
Ta ta ... thank gGod I never got into Britain if this is the quality resident therein. See you at the Apocalypse, Neo. I'll be the one with the temporal displacement pistol aimed at yer noggin!
(to Moderators - sorry if I got a little carried away, but he said bad things about my departed mom - and I think you'll all agree I kept my temper. Nuff said and no more of this, please and thank you)
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Nuff said and no more of this, please and thank you
Oh no no, thank YOU
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: ]
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Also i can feel your monkey neophobic fear of the New.
Uh huh. There's a reason they're called Great OLD Ones, Neo. Because they're OLD. Old like your hate and old like your ideas. You're in excellent company with Yog-Sothoth and Dagon, my mis-guided friend. Your gods are trapped behind the ancient seals and you are trapped behind your hate. The stars will NEVER come right and you and your gods will be assimilated into the Supercontext as quaint monstrosities, just a little archaic spice to liven up the party.
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Sure. Amongst the members of the New Hitler Youth Club you obviously run.
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Speaking of fear, i already been in touch with KUTULU a long time ago and boy, has it got some monster plans for you all!
And I thought I was delusional. Well, bring it on, Deep One! I like my batrachian sea-devil broiled in butter with a little lemon! Grr!
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Ohh and so that you know. I never said i'll be going hand in hand with evil.
It is sheople like you who fail to recognise noephile thirst for new and condemn us as being on the bad side. Just because i'm studying certain things it doesnt mean that approve them.
And as for star, what the hell a discordian typo like you can know about stars
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Ohh and so that you know. I never said i'll be going hand in hand with evil.
No, I see you more as having your hand half-way up the cold ass of Evil, really.
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It is sheople like you who fail to recognise noephile thirst for new and condemn us as being on the bad side. Just because i'm studying certain things it doesnt mean that approve them.
Incomprehensible. I wonder if you know how to study.
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You can't know your HPLovecraft very well if you don't know that quote, Neo. Here's a primer...
"That is not dead which can eternal lie, Yet with strange aeons even death may die."
and Cthulhu (oh! sorry! KUTULU, pardon me, you Crowley-wannabe) will rise when the stars are once again right ... or some shit like that!
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Landotter, it is a privet Latin translation.
Just some good-humoured advice - take it or leave it. Unless of course you enjoy getting your consciousness raped
Your mama, your mama will enjoy her stinky ass hole raped on a nazi cross.
(the Landotter is now officially rolling on the floor and laughing)
And mods dont you tell me about nice policies, he started and i fisnied it.
Oh and i never said i knew Latin, it was translated from Latin. And i meant semi translated. All the chanting is left in original form and i know how to prononce it.
And please keep your reccomendations about puting it away to yourself. If i wanted you opinion regarding demonology or my toporgaphy i would beat it out of you.
See ya.
See ya.
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IT'S FICTION, FERCRISSAKES!
It is. Now go sleep.
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: ]
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Go on Mr Aristotle. Ban me.
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Go on Mr Aristotle. Ban me.
Done and done. After a calming down period you might regain your membership status.
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Hey, that was pretty good. We rarely see flames in here, so we have to enjoy what little trickles through the omnipresent grasp of Mr Mushrooms. But that was good, really. Quite creative, too. I learned some new words, like trans-dimensional motherfucker and batrachian sea-devil. But what's a necromonomicum? 
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Nomad]
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the necronomicon is a peice of literature supposedly written by a mad arab that gives instructions on how to summon a race of elder gods from outer space.
It doesn't seem to exist in a modern context and was made popular by H.P. Lovecraft and Alastair Crowley. A modern version can be purchased at book stores but I question it's historical and invocational relavance.
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Yes, I think I've heard of that somewhere and then did forget again... So, does the real thing exist or was it invented by Lovecraft?
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Nomad]
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It is possible that the "mad arab" was indeed a real person and it is quite possible he did write a collection of insane ramblings.
But to say that they do work as a grimorie, would be inapproperiate. The actual historical documents are, to the best of my knowledge, lost.
So, to answer your question, no it was not invented by lovecraft, only popularized by him.
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verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Nomad]
#1218415 - 01/14/03 03:14 PM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just doing my work, Nomad.
If he calms down he can come back and play nice.
Otherwise, it's "permaban" as they say in the business.
I am very tolerant of what goes on in here and read every post by every member.
With very few exceptions the people that post here are great.
IN was a newb that didn't realize the gravitas of his remarks.
Cheers
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Nomad
Mad Robot

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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: ]
#1219534 - 01/14/03 11:37 PM (22 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sure. You're doing a great job
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the_Landotter
Gnostic Chaoist

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The Necronomicon (Latin for Book of the Laws of the Dead) COULD be considered as an "astral" book. It is any collection of writing or collected wisdom (accessed however you like - book, dream, disturbing graffiti, bald guy masturbating in the basement) that, when read/accessed, can reduce your mind to paste. It is not a pleasant book. I and some others I know have had opportunity for the merest glance into its "pages" and believe me, to run screaming is the natural, healthy human reaction.
The Necronomicon is a metaphor for all that is forbidden, spiritually dangerous & unholy.
The Necronomicon may also be found in amusing paperback form at any major bookseller. In this form it is simply a collection of Sumerian magic ritual spiced with a little Lovecraftian "things-that-should-not-be" for flavour. the Avon edition is laughable but the Wilson/Hay edition is quite scholarly and was perpetrated by its authors as a serious hoax. Fooled many. Still does. This version cribs more from Crowley and John Dee than Sumerian sources. And as such, some of the rituals (such as the formula for the Angle-Web of Dho-nah) actually do seem to alter perception when performed. But only just.
And, apparently, you can also find a privately owned semi-translated Latin version of it in the hands of a Nazi-Illuminatus illiterate somewhere in the dreary housing tracts of England.
Guys like that bother me because you end up reading about them in the paper after they've ritually slaughtered some poor kid or homeless person, all to appease their dark gods. And they ruin Lovecraft for the rest of us.
Enough outta me.
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Larrythescaryrex
teardrop on the fire


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What are your thoughts on the goetia?
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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011
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Shroomism
Space Travellin


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You don't have to search. The shaman will find you.
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the_Landotter
Gnostic Chaoist

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I have some thoughts but perhaps we should move the subject into a new thread, as the "Locating A Shaman" thing seems to have petered out somwhat?
Sorry bout that EarthDroid, I take responsibility! 
Anyways, question for ya EarthDroid -- have I met you in person? You sound an awful lot like this fellow I met at the Connect Festival outside Regina last summer. Were you there?
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Onethr
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she-man?! ahahaha
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kotik
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Onethr]
#5428870 - 03/22/06 07:34 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
You can get a lot further without drugs than you can with them
a true nugget of knowledge, albeit one that many of us may have problems admitting.
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MystikMushroom
I RULE YOU!
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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Shroomism]
#5430676 - 03/22/06 04:18 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: You don't have to search. The shaman will find you.
I agree to a certain degree. If you put it in your mind you wish for one to enter your path, one just may!
I'd sugest checking out the local native cultures in your area. There's somthing to be learned from everything, even your local native american community. The journey has to start somplace right? Why not check out what the people around your area before trapsing through the Amazon? It'll be cheaper and if anything give you some foundation for dealing with diffrent cultures.
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Akira
CosmicConsciousness


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Earth_Droid said: I understand that. I guess I was saying that, because I know a lot of Shamans want money, and won't do anything to really help. I want the real deal treatment here : (), Terence Mckenna style.
Dude you sound like a catholic yerning for Sunday church. Walk your own path, and if it somehow involves a shaman it will happen on it's own.
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We know that God is good, and so are hamburgers and hot dogs. We know that hamburgers and hot dogs definitely do exist, so then by deduction of logic God too must also exist. Hamburgers + Hot dogs = God.... Duh
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danlennon3
LivingIsEasyWithEyesClosed.....


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Akira]
#5445701 - 03/26/06 11:47 PM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ill be your shaman. you just need to supply the ayahuasca, a plane ticket, and a place to sleep for a couple days
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