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Locating a Shaman
    #1206529 - 01/10/03 10:12 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I live in Saskatchewan, Canada and am interested in locating a Shaman healer as a source for psychotherapy. I mean a Shaman like Ralph Metzner who would go out in a forest and take ayahuasca with me. If someone could please give me some advice or suggestions on how to contact one let me know.

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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1206535 - 01/10/03 10:15 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Check your classifieds first, then go about contacting others who might know one.


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1206538 - 01/10/03 10:17 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Too bad Terence McKenna isn't alive anymore.  :frown: 


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1206540 - 01/10/03 10:18 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

If you are a little kinky, I know a she-man that might go into a dark forest with you.


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Swami]
    #1206543 - 01/10/03 10:20 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I am very kinky, but not that kinky. Yes, too bad Terence Mckenna isn't a live anymore. Maybe I should give Ralph Metzner an e mail and see if he can help me out.


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1206708 - 01/10/03 11:25 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Come a little ways west to Calgary.  I have been known to act in a shamanic capacity -- make you shit your pants, I will.  But in a good way!  Full panopoly of occult powers: spirit helpers, spontaneous glossolalia, channelled writings, and damn sexy to boot.  Give your soul a nice workout.  Whatever!

Once I hurt my back and a Tsimshian shaman fixed it in minutes by whispering to my spine.  Damndest thing...

... course I still had to go to the chiropractor the next day.  Which just goes to shoe...

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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1206848 - 01/10/03 12:07 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Are you looking for a shaman healer in your area? You have to be very careful with healing of this nature, as most 'Shaman's' are really entrepeneurs full of bullshit. Your own true self is the best teacher you can have. A spiritual guide can only point you in a certain direction, it is up to you to find your own true path. If you put your will into growing the components of your own ayhuasca, and you conquer any fears you might have of performing the ritual alone, than you will learn more than any shaman can ever teach you.


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Remy]
    #1206859 - 01/10/03 12:12 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, I am thinking I should try and obtain my own ayhuasca. I do need some guidance though it seems, and I can't find anyone that can help.


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1206901 - 01/10/03 12:27 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1206969 - 01/10/03 12:52 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I could be wrong but I don't think ayahuasca grows in Saskatchewan.

Good luck!


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: ]
    #1206978 - 01/10/03 12:58 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I was thinking about ordering stuff to make it.


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1206986 - 01/10/03 01:03 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

In that case I would let the Shaman come to me instead of seeking one out.

My experience has been that those who charge are not the ones to consort with.

Good Luck!


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1206998 - 01/10/03 01:10 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Ya, actually by now I should realise that outside help isn't the answer. I have given up on psychiatrists and psychologists, maybe I was just hoping shamans were the answer now, I am not sure. Basically I think I need a monthly dose of LSD, only I can't find any. That seems to have been the best analystical tool, only the effects only seem to last a while after the trip. I have deeply imbedded imprints of obsevving thoughts that I cannot get over no matter what it seems.


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1207008 - 01/10/03 01:21 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Not all Shaman's slap you down on a log in front of a fire, and toss some psychoactive tea in front of you, although they may.  :wink:
When you find your healer, you may not need any substance at all...you may close your eyes, let the Shaman pray, and then feel 100% better. Just wanted to point out not all rituals involve ingesting or smoking sacred plants  :smile:   


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: EthnoJimmy]
    #1207011 - 01/10/03 01:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I understand that. I guess I was saying that, because I know a lot of Shamans want money, and won't do anything to really help. I want the real deal treatment here : (), Terence Mckenna style.


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1207026 - 01/10/03 01:31 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Absolutely...I agree that an experience with someone on that level would blow anyone's head. I honestly hope you find what you're looking for. You're obviously serious about your search, and you appear to idolize McKenna in a sense(likewise), have you considered a trip to the Amazon? If you can't actually talk with McKenna, why not follow in his footsteps? It may take a year or two to save for the trip, but you just may find what you're looking for.


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: EthnoJimmy]
    #1207104 - 01/10/03 02:11 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, I definately would like to go there someday. Terence says after spending a week in the amazon, the cosmic giggle becomes your friend.


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1207190 - 01/10/03 03:03 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Ya, actually by now I should realise that outside help isn't the answer. I have given up on psychiatrists and psychologists, maybe I was just hoping shamans were the answer now, I am not sure. Basically I think I need a monthly dose of LSD, only I can't find any




Judging from your posts it sounds like the only thing you need is not to rely on your needs. A monthly dose of LSD will only make you much worse than you already are. You can learn from psychedelics, but if you want to learn from them, you must first learn self-reliance, and how to stop clinging to matter (and ideas, but not instinctual thought). You can get a lot further without drugs than you can with them. If you want to make a true ayhuasca, you must use plants you have sought out, or you have grown, for then you lend them your spirit, and they lend you yours. And don't expect all the answers, especially if you are relying on the Ayhuasca to provide them. I know of several texts/papers that may help you. I'll send you what I have on the computer, and the names of the others.


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Remy]
    #1207223 - 01/10/03 03:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I understand you are just providing me with advice, but I am more farther on the journey than you probably think, and I know I shouldn't look for answers, or not look for answers. That is the zen way, LSD only ever makes me feel better for about a month after as I reimprint my brain. It rips away my rigid belief system, and I get reborn into a better self.


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Re: Locating a Shaman [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #1207292 - 01/10/03 03:54 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

The Zen way is only the first step. Enlightenment only puts you on the path, it is the beginning. The path is much longer, and just to reach enlightenment, one must give up all drugs (there are exceptions to what can be considered a drug but LSD certaintly is not one). The mushroom has a lot more to teach than any hit of LSD. I find LSD very misleading, although it has helped me to find some truths. These are all just my beliefs, use them or ignore them at your choosing, for I am not trying to lay them upon you, only trying to provide some help.


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