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Anonymous #1

My struggle.
    #12061102 - 02/19/10 05:08 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I have always been intelligent. Always. I learned to read way before my peers. I was reading at a third grade level before I even started kindergarten. My teachers always told me I was destined for great things...and I believed I was. Up through elementary school, I was the most intelligent student in the school. I scored perfect on a state test (one of only 2 people that year), and was always in the accelerated programs.

Starting in about 5th grade...I started thinking for myself. I saw things nobody else saw. I knew all about the political system...I saw the things it was doing to my friends around me who were a bit more slow. I started to withdraw from school...I never understood why I had to do homework, when that was all just preparation for tests that I could get perfect scores on without even cracking the book. I paid attention in school for the most part, but I never had to take notes. I knew that, but the teachers could never understand that I didn't NEED to do those things.

Middle school started, and I really rebelled. It seemed like everyone around me was just following the herd. Obeying the rules. Fitting in. I was too smart for all of this...I didn't even want to finish school, because I knew I could go out and get a job at any point with nothing but my mind. I was in trouble constantly, always getting thrown out of school. I had to lower myself to the level of the people around me...nobody could keep up with me, and in order to relate and make friends, I had to play dumb.

This lasted throughout high school. I spent more time out of school than in school. I started hanging out with other people who were like me - rebels. Free thinkers. I wasn't about to let ANYONE tell me what to do. I am my own man, and don't need anyones help with anything. I struggled my way through, summer school every year. I finally graduated.

Now, I sit here...almost 20 years old. I have become so used to lowering myself to everyone elses level, it is almost what I have become. I can't stand the thought of having a normal job. Paying taxes that will go to things that I couldn't care less about. Paying into a system that couldn't give a fuck less about me. I could go to college...I could do the work. But I won't. I'll sit here, and waste away my hours working a job that I hate that pays minimum wage.

I'll never be like them. I can tell. I can't let myself do that. I have to be this way...I don't know who I am proving a point to anymore. Maybe just myself.

I just don't know.

Is anyone else in a similar situation?


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Anonymous #2

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12061257 - 02/19/10 05:36 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yea, but I'm not a whiney bitch so i can't sympathise with ya.

Sorry cry-baby.


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Anonymous #1

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #12061262 - 02/19/10 05:37 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Yea, but I'm not a whiney bitch so i can't sympathise with ya.

Sorry cry-baby.




I'm hardly whining about my situation.

Just looking for someone to relate :/


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Anonymous #3

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #12061280 - 02/19/10 05:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah. That sounds like being 20.  Man up.  Do whatever it is your going to do.


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Anonymous #2

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12061287 - 02/19/10 05:41 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry I didn't read it. I saw the title and assumer you were bitching.

That's the problem with smart people; most seem to think they are higher above everyone else.

I used to be like this. I'd look at something, realize things I thought other people didn't, then I'd look down on them. Then I realized that most people are not that stupid, and people are just who they are, regardless of their intelligence. I respect everyone I meet, and hold a high prejudice for every new stranger I encounter; that they are as smart as me. Nothing's worse then making yourself look like a douche bag by trying to act smart in front of an actual smart person.

:2cents:


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Anonymous #4

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12061335 - 02/19/10 05:53 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Being smart is not an excuse for laziness.

If you are truly as smart as you say you are, then you will find a way to beat the system....not find a way to let it beat you. Stop being so concerned with the way other people run their lives, and figure out what you want to do with yours. You only got one chance to shine in this life, don't throw it away.

If you are smart....you should go to college man. Get a degree in something that will make you some money. I was like you. In fact, my high school class voted me "Most Likely To Be the Next Einstein". I've struggled in college because I had terrible study habits in high school. Like you said, I never took notes, barely put any effort into homework...and I passed high school with flying colors. I'm 23 now and finally about to graduate college, but i'm graduating with 2.7 GPA....but I'm a smart motha fucka, and I got a degree in engineering.

I know what you mean about the system, the government, etc. Fuck the system. Do what you want. You know what I am going to do? I am going to use my degree in engineering to make some fat money for a few years, live frugally, and then I'm going to take off. I'm going to find myself a hot girlfriend and travel around the world, doing whatever the fuck I want.

If you're smart, you'll find a way to live your dreams.

Otherwise, you're just wasting away waiting to die.


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Anonymous #5

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12061425 - 02/19/10 06:12 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
I have always been intelligent. Always. I learned to read way before my peers. I was reading at a third grade level before I even started kindergarten. My teachers always told me I was destined for great things...and I believed I was. Up through elementary school, I was the most intelligent student in the school. I scored perfect on a state test (one of only 2 people that year), and was always in the accelerated programs.

Starting in about 5th grade...I started thinking for myself. I saw things nobody else saw. I knew all about the political system...I saw the things it was doing to my friends around me who were a bit more slow. I started to withdraw from school...I never understood why I had to do homework, when that was all just preparation for tests that I could get perfect scores on without even cracking the book. I paid attention in school for the most part, but I never had to take notes. I knew that, but the teachers could never understand that I didn't NEED to do those things.

Middle school started, and I really rebelled. It seemed like everyone around me was just following the herd. Obeying the rules. Fitting in. I was too smart for all of this...I didn't even want to finish school, because I knew I could go out and get a job at any point with nothing but my mind. I was in trouble constantly, always getting thrown out of school. I had to lower myself to the level of the people around me...nobody could keep up with me, and in order to relate and make friends, I had to play dumb.

This lasted throughout high school. I spent more time out of school than in school. I started hanging out with other people who were like me - rebels. Free thinkers. I wasn't about to let ANYONE tell me what to do. I am my own man, and don't need anyones help with anything. I struggled my way through, summer school every year. I finally graduated.

Now, I sit here...almost 20 years old. I have become so used to lowering myself to everyone elses level, it is almost what I have become. I can't stand the thought of having a normal job. Paying taxes that will go to things that I couldn't care less about. Paying into a system that couldn't give a fuck less about me. I could go to college...I could do the work. But I won't. I'll sit here, and waste away my hours working a job that I hate that pays minimum wage.

I'll never be like them. I can tell. I can't let myself do that. I have to be this way...I don't know who I am proving a point to anymore. Maybe just myself.

I just don't know.

Is anyone else in a similar situation?




This is avery common thing IMO, i was in an accelerated class for most of my secondary school life. Most of us were in the same class all through high school. And most of us slacked off to a massive degree towards the end of our secondary school education. Our last two years of high school were a waste, we could've done apprenticeships over that time, or university preperation - and developed 'real' skills, but instead did the same crap we did previous years that was just a bit harder...

And from that class only a couple i can confidently say have achieved some high level standard at university or tertiary study or in their workplace. The rest of us, most with at least an undergraduate degree, are working shithouse jobs that do not utilize any of our skills or intelligence. We had no direction, no idea what the fuck we wanted to do, and a high deal of apathy. Some of us, me included, are only now giving things ago no matter the outcome to find our purpose. Oh to be poor graduates job hopping... not good for the CV, but we're an indecisive bunch.

However some of the underachievers at high school, did exceptionally well post school, successful tradesmen and engineering grads etc, and have great careers ahead of them.

Now i feel academic intelligence is such a small part of being successful, and early high levels of achievement do not necessarily translate to the same later in life. Intelligence has more areas than academic, and besides you don't have to be academically intelligent to work out what will make you happy.

I reccommend taking some risks (it is wise to save money from whatever your doing to cover yourself for a few months if you do need a change) to find what it is you want, i'm still searching, but i have a fairly good idea what i want to do which requires me to work something shitty, save, so i can then invest in my future, and make the most important investment any man should make... that is to invest in myself, make my life about me, instead of being a dupe for someone else.

I'm 24, and have given so many things a go, you're almost 20, you have plenty of time.


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Anonymous #1

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #12061449 - 02/19/10 06:16 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Good point! :thumbup:

I know 20 is always a tough age for everyone...its make it or break it, you know?

I guess I could give college a shot. I want to do something I enjoy...but unfortunately, most of what I'm good at is fucking illegal. Street art, growing things, mycology, brewing.

Someday, I'd like to own my own bar I guess. Maybe a brewery. I guess I could work at some bullshit job for a little while until I could make enough paper to do that.

Thanks, that gave me something to think on for sure. I just can't toil away for the rest of my life. I want to do what I fucking want to do.

Thank you too, number five!

I just knew I could find someone who would understand here.


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Anonymous #6

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12061470 - 02/19/10 06:18 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Keep in mind that you cannot experience other's minds. Feeling "special and different" is a consequence: "I realized this, I think that", always forgetting that many people around you are thinking at the same time.

If we look very closely, we are all the same. And if we look from a faraway place, we are also all the same.
We only look different from one another from our human perspective, in a human-sized world.

In the end, if you see life as a struggle or a competition, we could say that you had a good start. But now you're way behind... and still didn't realize you are completely part of the herd, clinging to the past.


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Anonymous #7

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12061493 - 02/19/10 06:24 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Dude every word you wrote could of been from my own life. I dunno what to tell you.. I just turned 25 and I work at fucking Walmart.


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Anonymous #5

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12061514 - 02/19/10 06:29 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Good point! :thumbup:

I know 20 is always a tough age for everyone...its make it or break it, you know?

I guess I could give college a shot. I want to do something I enjoy...but unfortunately, most of what I'm good at is fucking illegal. Street art, growing things, mycology, brewing.

Someday, I'd like to own my own bar I guess. Maybe a brewery. I guess I could work at some bullshit job for a little while until I could make enough paper to do that.

Thanks, that gave me something to think on for sure. I just can't toil away for the rest of my life. I want to do what I fucking want to do.

Thank you too, number five!

I just knew I could find someone who would understand here.




zactly, a small brewery is not hard to set up ( you can do a decent one in your own garage), save up some money from a bullshit job, get a loan and study the skills you need in your own time, get some equipment and licenses etc with that loan (make a decent deposit though, interest fucks a lot of people over, do your math first), keep working that bullshit job pay off as much as you can, get brewing on weekends or whatever days off you have. It will be hard work doing both and will take a while, but eventually you'll aquire the skills and develop the recipes/tastes you want to market. be bold, be aggressive and market the shit out of your limited product when you can. Sell, grow, and you could have a nice boutique brewery within a year or two that could grow to be massive in 20 years time.

Just a suggestion anywho. Keep in mind, we have a lot more opportunity to be who we really are than our forefathers did.

edit: Business is risky, but dreams are allowed, and its horrible to be left wondering 'what if.'


Edited by Anonymous (02/19/10 06:32 PM)


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Anonymous #4

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #12061536 - 02/19/10 06:33 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

I want to do something I enjoy...but unfortunately, most of what I'm good at is fucking illegal. Street art, growing things, mycology, brewing.

Someday, I'd like to own my own bar I guess. Maybe a brewery. I guess I could work at some bullshit job for a little while until I could make enough paper to do that.




Dude there are some brew trade schools that exist. I know my friend is planning on going to one in Oregon. You should seriously look into that, beer is fucking delicious and you know people will always want to drink it.


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Anonymous #8

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12061648 - 02/19/10 06:48 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Smartest kid in Grade 5

Congrats, LoL

If you move out from the safety net that is your parents maybe it'll force you to apply yourself - or you could just keep telling people you were the smartest kid in your grade 5 class and see how far that gets you


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Anonymous #9

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #12061654 - 02/19/10 06:49 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

We've all been through the " I'm smarter than everyone" phase. Best thing you can do is get over it. You are not special or unique. You over value yourself and the end result is an inflated ego.

It's fun to sit around and think of the reasons that you are better than everyone. But eventually you'll realize it's gotten you nowhere.

Somewhere in your mid 20s you'll start to learn a little humility. If you are truly as smart as you seem to think you are you will stop looking for validation and opportunities to tell people how smart you are and get over yourself.

hope this helps with your "problem"

Douchebag...


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Anonymous #4

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #12061717 - 02/19/10 06:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Intelligence does not equal wisdom.

It takes a long long time for some people to realize this. People have always said I'm intelligent...but I think thats a crock of shit. I know so many more intelligent people then me.

But wisdom, I've got that in abundance.  :japsmile:


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Anonymous #1

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #12061740 - 02/19/10 07:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Lol, you guys who are calling me arrogant and ego filled are full of shit.

I might have come off like that in this thread...but I'm really not. I'd never say any of this, in real life. I'm humble as fuck.


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Anonymous #5

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #12061767 - 02/19/10 07:08 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #9 said:
We've all been through the " I'm smarter than everyone" phase. Best thing you can do is get over it. You are not special or unique. You over value yourself and the end result is an inflated ego.

It's fun to sit around and think of the reasons that you are better than everyone. But eventually you'll realize it's gotten you nowhere.

Somewhere in your mid 20s you'll start to learn a little humility. If you are truly as smart as you seem to think you are you will stop looking for validation and opportunities to tell people how smart you are and get over yourself.

hope this helps with your "problem"

Douchebag...




This is all fairly well true, humility is an important lesson as well and you'll be reminded of this lots at this stage of your life if you actually go out there and do something. Heck i've served alcohol to succesful people i knew at school, even knocked on doors of their houses as a salesman. I also knocked on doors of people who have amounted to even less than i have. Sucked, but hell its all the experience and character building.

You are no better than anyone else IMO, but you may be excellent at, have a passion for, or enjoy something that few others do, and i'm guessing you're not sure what that could be, could be many things that might even fit into that category.

There are many way to operate your life. Many hate their high-paying jobs, but the pay is worth it because they can do what they want to with the money outside of work. Others would rather be happy at work, earn less and sacrifice otherwise meaningless extravagance. I think life is short and you might as well do what fits you best, even if you have to be pissed off for a while to make it reality. For some, having kids and being able to support them whichever way is balancing enough (as boring or as sucky as work may be)


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Anonymous #4

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12061769 - 02/19/10 07:08 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Meh...I honestly don't care how arrogant or egotistical someone is. What I care about is: are you thoughtful and respectful?

Theres nothing wrong with a bit of arrogance or egoism. If you have healthy self-esteem, and know what your strengths are, then you are bound to be a little arrogant about it. I think thats ok.

Of course a healthy amount of humility is a good thing too. Gotta find the BALANCE ya know.


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Anonymous #7

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12061782 - 02/19/10 07:10 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I just don't understand why I'm so apathetic.

As #5 wrote: "We had no direction, no idea what the fuck we wanted to do, and a high deal of apathy." That was and is me to a tee.


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Anonymous #10

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #12061905 - 02/19/10 07:35 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

in real life. I'm humble as fuck.




If you actually believe half of the shit you write there is no way you can be that humble.  Man up and do something.  Passing tests in school is nothing and nobody cares about that shit.  It has never made people smart it only means you are good at taking tests.


People who do things in smart ways are smart.  People who pass tests and think that makes them smart are children.  Its understandable, it really is, but the sooner you realize your self-serving pretension the sooner you might actually do something and forget the need to prove to yourself or others that you have a grain of intelligence.


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Anonymous #6

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12061927 - 02/19/10 07:40 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Lol, you guys who are calling me arrogant and ego filled are full of shit.

I might have come off like that in this thread...but I'm really not. I'd never say any of this, in real life. I'm humble as fuck.




"Humble as fuck", that's an odd way to phrase it!

I wasn't referring to arrogance, personnally. Whether you act as a superior being or not, I do not know; what interests me is what you think.

I went through what you're expressing, too. It lasts until you realize you are not "special", and that the most important thing is the present. What matters is not the genius you used to be (especially knowing that so many kids are "geniuses"), but the person you are now. If you rely on the past, you'll never go forward.

There is also a problem with the concept of "intelligence". What is "being smart"? A quick, sharp logic? Knowledge? Memory? Sociability? Adaptation? IQ? Considering the trouble we would have defining intelligence, we could probably conclude that many people could be qualified as somehow "smart", even though it's quite hard to compare them to each other.
If you ever showed an interest in philosophy, some have thought about this. For example, it has been noticed that the IQ merely measures one's conformity to a certain culture, in terms of performance. Marxists even went as far as saying that it was the conformity to the higher classes' culture and demands, leaving the rest aside. Unfortunately, many fall into the trap of extreme ethnocentrism, considering their IQ as their intelligence.

I thought I was a very smart person, since I was told that everyday. But when I started questioning and defining my intelligence, I realized I wasn't smarter... just somehow smart, in some ways, and stupid in some others.


Edited by Anonymous (02/19/10 07:43 PM)


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Anonymous #11

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12062670 - 02/19/10 09:48 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Is anyone else in a similar situation?


I can relate to almost everything that you're saying, except I think you were a bit smarter than I was back in elementary school. I can totally relate to dumbing myself down in order to befriend others, and as a result of doing that, now I behave like a dumbass who nobody understands. How I behave is nothing like how I really am inside, I feel sometimes like I'll never be able to express my true colors, and it gets me down because I feel like a phony when I'm around people that I love.


Don't be too down, you're not the only one. :rockon:


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Anonymous #12

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #12063255 - 02/19/10 11:42 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Read the book ATLAS SHRUGGED by Anne Rand. It's not quite the same thing you are talking about but it came to mind when reading the first post.


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Anonymous #1

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #12064063 - 02/20/10 06:54 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry about this post. I was pretty fucking drunk when I made it, and I'm impressed I didn't spell everything horribly wrong.

I'm not sure what I was getting at here.


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Anonymous #8

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #12064506 - 02/20/10 10:24 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Like this grade school 'genus' has the ability to or will power to attempt that


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Anonymous #13

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #12064557 - 02/20/10 10:38 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Starting in about 5th grade...I started thinking for myself. I saw things nobody else saw. I knew all about the political system...I saw the things it was doing to my friends around me who were a bit more slow.




This quote is just funny.


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Anonymous #1

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #12064632 - 02/20/10 10:56 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #13 said:
Quote:

Starting in about 5th grade...I started thinking for myself. I saw things nobody else saw. I knew all about the political system...I saw the things it was doing to my friends around me who were a bit more slow.




This quote is just funny.




You might think so, but only I can understand how it was.

Or, someone who has been through something similar.


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Anonymous #14

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #12064989 - 02/20/10 12:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
Keep in mind that you cannot experience others minds. Feeling "special and different" is a consequence: "I realized this, I think that", always forgetting that many people around you are thinking at the same time.

If we look very closely, we are all the same. And if we look from a faraway place, we are also all the same.
We only look different from one another from our human perspective, in a human-sized world.

In the end, if you see life as a struggle or a competition, we could say that you had a good start. But now you're way behind... and still didn't realize you are completely part of the herd, clinging to the past.




Not necessarily way behind. Were you to google for forums about disillusioned middle-agers, many successful doctors and lawyers and politicians, it ain't that happy.

We always wear masks. This MIGHT be the most honest sub-forum on this forum, but even with 'anonymous' you see a lot of mask everywhere.

It's easy to make a philosophical sewage here, but the question is moot. If you waste the first 79-years of your eighty-year life doing what you thought was right, or lost the middle-years of your eighty-year life doing what you thought was wrong it STILL won't be what's on your mind on your deathbed.

I was told my IQ was very high, I was also told I was academically gifted. I also was very reckless in my second decade of perspective and I ALSO have seen many friends come out of graduate programs with little knowledge, less work experience, and massive amounts of debt.

Who are you we to make the call? We're not, but the OP can know they are not alone, and shit changes really fast. Whether you want it to or not.


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Anonymous #15

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #12065281 - 02/20/10 12:57 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i think you are at the point where you are letting your own thoughts of self-awsomeness dictate your actions, not letting your smart thoughts dictate them

if you WERE smart, you would realize how fucking EASY it is to win in society if you just follow the rules and do waht your told for a while, then when you ARE the bigshot taht you "know you will be" you can shit all over everyone and do your own thing
until then you are a whiny bitch working in Mc'dicks, and no matter how smart you think you are, the world views you as a stupid idiot


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Anonymous #7

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #12065369 - 02/20/10 01:15 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

What if you just don't care about society? What if you're content blending in with the herd, but staying active inside?

I feel like I've given up long ago trying to play this labyrinth of a game called "life". I just exist.


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Anonymous #15

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #12065374 - 02/20/10 01:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #7 said:
What if you just don't care about society? What if you're content blending in with the herd, but staying active inside?

I feel like I've given up long ago trying to play this labyrinth of a game called "life". I just exist.





enjoy your 9-5 with nothing but another day of the same thing over and over and over........


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Anonymous #16

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #12065396 - 02/20/10 01:22 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #15 said:
i think you are at the point where you are letting your own thoughts of self-awsomeness dictate your actions, not letting your smart thoughts dictate them

if you WERE smart, you would realize how fucking EASY it is to win in society if you just follow the rules and do waht your told for a while, then when you ARE the bigshot taht you "know you will be" you can shit all over everyone and do your own thing
until then you are a whiny bitch working in Mc'dicks, and no matter how smart you think you are, the world views you as a stupid idiot




This was exactly what I was going to say.

OP should have realized that given his status in life (a child, a student, a minor) he really had no choice but to play the game.
the thing is tho is that when you show promise and excel at the game... adults and those in game changing positions
will go out of their way to help you achieve even more.

once you get into college you can choose to study what you want, new found freedoms open more doorways,
and you can end up doing important things w/ your superior intellegence. instead of owning a bar. any idiot can
peddle the last legal drug. trust me... my plan purchase a bar or a chain restaurant and I was an average to
above average student through college.

Way to squander your gift. :rolleyes:


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Anonymous #17

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #12065400 - 02/20/10 01:22 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

WTF Im not reading all that.

Kill yourself, its the smart thing to do.


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Anonymous #7

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #12065610 - 02/20/10 02:06 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous #15 said:
enjoy your 9-5 with nothing but another day of the same thing over and over and over........



Even with a college education I doubt you or 99% of anyone else does anything different.


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Anonymous #18

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #12066439 - 02/20/10 04:30 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I can understand having trouble fitting in, but not for the same reasons. I was raised with hippie values and have had a lot of trouble fitting in because of it. For example, I've never had problems with social skills, but have always found it hard to get any pleasure from the generally shallow conversations most people have. And I've never understood why most people place so much value on things like tv or material items.

It's never a good idea to consider yourself more intelligent or better than others, but when you spend years constantly being patient with everyone else or feeling like you're being forced to dumb yourself down for the sake of fitting in, it's hard not to get resentful and start to feel that way. If you let yourself do this, you'll be even more miserable in the end.

If you want friends, you'll have to put up with bullshit sometimes. If you can't do that, then you'll have to learn to be happier on your own. If you want a lot of money, you might have to work a job you hate. If you absolutely can't stand a 9-5 job, then you might have to work harder and live off next to nothing in order to do something you enjoy. Learn to compromise and find a healthy balance between things and you won't struggle as much.


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Anonymous #6

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #12066924 - 02/20/10 06:00 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous #1 said:
You might think so, but only I can understand how it was.

Or, someone who has been through something similar.




That's what I'm talking about.
Think about it. Our experience of life may not be that different.

And about giving up and staying active inside... well, how do you feed what is inside? With what is outside. You'll run out of fuel. You'll be stuck at basic ideas while others travel the world and get an education, gaining further knowledge and understanding.

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Anonymous #7 said:
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Anonymous #15 said:
enjoy your 9-5 with nothing but another day of the same thing over and over and over........



Even with a college education I doubt you or 99% of anyone else does anything different.




You look like the OP in some ways indeed. The same "I'm special and 99% of the people aren't". Well, I'm studying Cinema right now and I'm meeting a lot of interesting, smart and creative persons! Not a boring life, actually.
Maybe we could sum up your attitude in a few words: "delusional egocentrism".
I believe the world is quite a big place with many things to do! You're just trying to justify your laziness and fear.


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Anonymous #7

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #12067044 - 02/20/10 06:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I can see where you're coming from but I'm not afraid to meet new people, in fact I enjoy it. When I find like-minded individuals I become excited and life-loving.

I've traveled quite a bit too.

I can and have done all these things and plenty more without going to college or graduating high school.


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Anonymous #19

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #12067873 - 02/20/10 08:57 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Anonymous #1's descriptions of his school career is almost entirely like mine - except I didn't start to rebel until I got to college.

I've become a pretty fucking angry leftist radical, ready to punch the Man in the balls and cut his throat if necessary.

C'est la vie.

I'm about to turn 23 and work at UPS. I make $14.00/hour and have full benefits. I own my own car. I don't live with my folks and I'm in school. Could be worse.


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Anonymous #20

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #12071281 - 02/21/10 02:19 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

okay. this is going to BLOW YOUR FUCKING MIND. you are just like everyone else. stop bitching. give yourself a good kick in the ass and actually think about life.


you have the potential to be someone fucking great. i've seen this happen so many times before. but you know your going to waste it, and i know it too.


... well its either that your your just a whiny little bitch who thinks they're smarter than everyone else when in reality your just as bad as the rest of us shitbags.

yeah. im gana have to go with that one :thumbup:


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Anonymous #6

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #12071776 - 02/21/10 03:45 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not talking about formal education. I'm just talking about learning and not[/i working at Walmart because "nobody understands".

If you're still travelling, learning and expanding your world, then I see no problem nor drama.


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Anonymous #7

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #12072310 - 02/21/10 05:02 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I had to stop my adventures because I ran out of money, so I'm working a shitty job to save up for more..

Yeah I wish I had the ability to make more money, but I didn't have family to put me through college and I didn't really have the motivation to put myself through.

Plus I know alot of people with college degrees who can't do anything with them in this economy. :shrug:


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Anonymous #21

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12072403 - 02/21/10 05:16 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

OP you'll probably spend the next few years 'struggling' until you acquiesce to yourself that you're most likely fairly average.  Even if not, it doesn't matter, it's a humility thing.

Self proclaimed smart people complain about having to do things below them.  What asses.  Just because your brain functions exceedingly well doesn't mean you can't wind up a janitor at your own fault.  My dick and my brain are both large, but I'm not Ron Jeremy or Stephen Hawking.

For someone who is so enlightened you seem painfully ignorant of many of the facts of life.  I agree, taxes suck, maybe you can go somewhere without taxes, but with mandatory military service?  So really, if you're smart, it shouldn't be too hard to pull your head out of your ass.  You can't control everything, enjoy what you can.  Shit doesn't get handed to you and the world doesn't play by your rules until you take it over.


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Anonymous #22

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #12075702 - 02/22/10 07:54 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

OP is a fucking tool

Grade school genius, LOL

Emo faggot


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Anonymous #23

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12075727 - 02/22/10 08:06 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous #3 said:
Yeah. That sounds like being 20.  Man up.  Do whatever it is your going to do.





QFT.  Every semi-intelligent "free thinking" individual goes through this phase around the age of 20.  You're fooling yourself if you think for one moment that you're the smartest person you know, or even the smartest person in this thread for that matter.  Get over yourself and be humbled, maybe you'll be inspired to do something other than make excuses for your laziness and ego trip about yourself.


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Anonymous #1

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #23]
    #12075741 - 02/22/10 08:09 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Lol. I trolled the fuck out of all of you. This was something I wanted to start out serious, but I wanted to see how ridiculous I could make it.

I actually work in an office building and wear a fucking suit to work. :shrug:

I hate it, but hey...it certainly buys me beer.

And lol @ the german translation of my thread. Fucking awesome.


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Anonymous #22

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12075781 - 02/22/10 08:22 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

haha


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Anonymous #24

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12075792 - 02/22/10 08:24 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Lol. I trolled the fuck out of all of you. This was something I wanted to start out serious, but I wanted to see how ridiculous I could make it.

I actually work in an office building and wear a fucking suit to work. :shrug:

I hate it, but hey...it certainly buys me beer.

And lol @ the german translation of my thread. Fucking awesome.



TL,DR OPFNT


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Anonymous #11

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12076070 - 02/22/10 09:50 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Trolling in the anon forum? :ban:


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Anonymous #1

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #12076226 - 02/22/10 10:30 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous #11 said:
Trolling in the anon forum? :ban:





Oh yeah, because nobody trolls here.

You're so lame dude. Lol at my post, or don't, and gtfo you fucking fun nazi.


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Anonymous #6

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12076759 - 02/22/10 12:05 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Butthurt much?


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Anonymous #21

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12080509 - 02/22/10 09:48 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Lol. I trolled the fuck out of all of you. This was something I wanted to start out serious, but I wanted to see how ridiculous I could make it.

I actually work in an office building and wear a fucking suit to work. :shrug:

I hate it, but hey...it certainly buys me beer.

And lol @ the german translation of my thread. Fucking awesome.



Just when we thought you couldn't fail harder.  Have fun wearing a suit and working in an office building so you can buy beer.  Lol, you can never troll us.


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Anonymous #25

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #12080940 - 02/22/10 11:16 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

OH MY GOD SOMEONE LIED ON THE INTERNET!?
:homealone:


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Anonymous #7

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12080949 - 02/22/10 11:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I think the OP is really as lame as his troll post led us to believe.

Either that or he was sincere all along, and trying to backtrack now that he realizes what a fag he made himself look like.


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Anonymous #25

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #12080967 - 02/22/10 11:19 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Anonymous #7 said:
Either that or he was sincere all along, and trying to backtrack now that he realizes what a fag he made himself look like.





this is more OP's MO.   

why take responsibility for his own mistakes when he could just question everyone else in the world's intelligence


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Anonymous #1

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #25]
    #12081891 - 02/23/10 07:02 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

You guys read too deeply into things :lol:  :drinklager:


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Anonymous #21

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #12084599 - 02/23/10 05:12 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

just drink your beer, go to work, and shut the fuck up - it's all you're good for


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Anonymous #26

Re: My struggle. [Re: Anonymous #21] * 1
    #12085817 - 02/23/10 08:39 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

:dumblol:


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