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Raw Cacao + Mushrooms
    #12023046 - 02/13/10 05:58 PM (14 years, 19 days ago)

My first ever flush of shrooms will be done in about a week, and I already started a water and juice fast in preparation, but that isnt what this thread is about.


This thread is about the healthy and positive combination of raw cacao and mushrooms. It makes perfect sense.

The idea is that the combination of various naturally occuring substances creates a synergistic effect. I gathered this conclusion from the tail end of an LSA trip, and thus far it has been correct. It is easy to think of examples, like fresh tobacco leaf and cacti are both prevalent in Mexico, and create a synergy type of high.

I believe this is also true of magic mushrooms and raw cacao. Both magic mushrooms and cacao grow abundantly in tropical climates, a perfect example is Hawaii. I will go over the science to justify my beliefs:

Mushrooms operate on the serotonin receptors, so substances that affect serotonin in a positive way, will create a positive synergy. One such substance is raw cacao (not processed, roasted, chemically treated cocoa, which is different).

Some facts about raw cacao:

Stimulant or Superfood?

Cacao contains subtle amounts of caffeine and theobromine. However, experiments have shown that these stimulants are far different when consumed raw than cooked. In its natural raw state, these stimulants balance each other, diminishing any type of crash one would experience consuming caffeien alone, or theobromine alone.

Consider the following: Experimental provings of chocolate by Homeopaths indicate its stimulating effect when cooked. One experiment conducted with a decoction of roasted ground cacao beans in boiling water produced an excitement of the nervous system similar to that caused by black coffee, an excited state of circulation, and an accelerated pulse. Interestingly, when the same decoction was made with raw, unroasted beans neither effect was noticeable, leading the provers to conclude that the physiological changes were caused by aromatic substances released during roasting.


MAO Inhibitors

Cacao seems to diminish appetite, probably due to its monoamine oxidase enzyme inhibitors (MAO inhibitors) - these are different from digestiveenzyme inhibitors found in most nuts and seeds. These rare MAO inhibitors actually produce favorable results when consumed by allowing more serotonin and other neurotransmitters to circulate in the brain. MAO inhibitors facilitate youthening and rejuvenation.


Phenylethylamine (PEA)

Phenylethylamine (PEA) is found in chocolate. PEA is an adrenal-relatedchemical that is also created within the brain and released when we are in love. This is one of the reasons why love and chocolate have a deep correlation. PEA also plays a role in increasing focus and alertness. PEA induces a state of love in the individual, and this creates a more loving experience.


Anandamide (The Bliss Chemical)

A neurotransmitter called anandamide, has been isolated in cacao. Anandamide is our bodies natural version of THC, and when you feel calm and relaxed, you have more anandamide flowing in your body. Anandamide is also produced naturally in the brain. Anandamide is known as “The Bliss Chemical” because it is released while we are feeling great. Cacao contains enzyme inhibitors that decrease our bodies’ ability to breakdown anandamide. This means that natural anandamide and/or cacaoanandamide may stick around longer, making us feel good longer, when we eat cacao.


Taking all of these different chemicals into consideration, and the large amount of anti-oxidants in cacao, it makes for the perfect compliment to your next mushroom trip.


Consuming raw cacao before your next mushroom trip will increase the duration of the trip, increase the trips intensity, increase a sense of well-being, promoting a more positive trip all around. The PEA that induces a similar state to being in love will open your heart to the mushroom trip, creating a healthy state of mind that will create more spiritually profound experiences.


So instead of smoking a joint before tripping next time, which ultimately leaves the tripper with less clarity, consider raw cacao as the perfect compliment to your next trip. :smile:


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Re: Raw Cacao + Mushrooms [Re: roboto212]
    #12025647 - 02/14/10 03:25 AM (14 years, 19 days ago)

Cacao... as in cocoa beans, right?

Very interesting.

You've obviously researched quite a bit. How many grams of raw beans do you plan to decoct? Or will you steep?

Congrats on your upcoming flush. Let us know how cacao works for you.

Chau

mr

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Re: Raw Cacao + Mushrooms [Re: m.r]
    #12025813 - 02/14/10 05:39 AM (14 years, 18 days ago)

I plan to consume about a half ounce of raw cacao nibs, the broken bits of the actualy cacao bean. Cocoa is different. Cocoa is the defatted, roated, cooked, chemically treated version of cacao. Coco has had most, if not all of the alkaloids removed, including the valuable MAOI's, the stimulants, the anti-oxidants, and every other little thing you want and need in the cacao bean.


The trip will be following a 2 day water fast, 5 day juice fast. I will be breakin the fast with the small amount of thouroughly chewed mushrooms, cacao nibs, a couple of bananas and some lemon/orange juice. It should make for a very powerful and clear trip, and hopefully very blissful :smile:.


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Re: Raw Cacao + Mushrooms [Re: roboto212]
    #12025961 - 02/14/10 06:56 AM (14 years, 18 days ago)

Righto, sounds good, keep us posted.

I'm interested in anything that can make a trip more first timer friendy... it appears some potentiators cause a harder trip (lemon, bc), whilst others give a smoother one (passionflower). Be good to see where raw cacao stands in all of this.

mr

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Re: Raw Cacao + Mushrooms [Re: m.r]
    #12052434 - 02/18/10 07:38 AM (14 years, 14 days ago)

The trip went very well. It was blissful the whole time, and from the 2-5 hour mark I had forgotten I had eaten 50 fresh gram and thought I had achieved enlightenment. It left a very nice afterglow.

Ill write a more in depth report later. Peace o/


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Re: Raw Cacao + Mushrooms [Re: roboto212]
    #12052633 - 02/18/10 09:01 AM (14 years, 14 days ago)

How far removed from cacao is dark chocolate?


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Re: Raw Cacao + Mushrooms [Re: Mogli]
    #12052661 - 02/18/10 09:10 AM (14 years, 14 days ago)

there are certain dark chocolates... that use ground and defatted cacao.. it is not raw as they applied a bit of head and processing to the cacao beans.... but it has some of the alkaloids that would do this action in the body...

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you need real raw cacao beans, nibs, or powder.... that contains all of the alkaloids, for it to have an affect on the mushrooms


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Re: Raw Cacao + Mushrooms [Re: roboto212]
    #12058232 - 02/19/10 02:16 AM (14 years, 14 days ago)

Looking forward to the report :thumbup:

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Re: Raw Cacao + Mushrooms [Re: m.r]
    #12058864 - 02/19/10 09:00 AM (14 years, 13 days ago)

dude i posted this so many fucking times ...


add honey raw coaco and honey with powdered or finely chopped mushrooms. and stir add nuts,peanut butter,or coffee bean

you can get raw cocoa herseys brand non-dutch processed raw chocolate


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9726332#9726332


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