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potency between 2 seperate grows????
#12052616 - 02/18/10 08:56 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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my friend did 2 separate grows, using the same spores each time, same terrarium, same techniques, same situation, etc. etc. the 1st grow he said was very very potent. now he said the second grow is not as potent. why would this be? what can cause this.
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MOPE
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Re: potency between 2 seperate grows???? [Re: Left turn]
#12052639 - 02/18/10 09:02 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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you said he used spores... well, with multispore you get many sets of genetics, so when you use spores no two grows will be the same... perfectly normal. if you want consistent results learn how to make an isolate
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Re: potency between 2 seperate grows???? [Re: MOPE]
#12052711 - 02/18/10 09:19 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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thanks for the info, i will pass it along
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Re: potency between 2 seperate grows???? [Re: MOPE]
#12052737 - 02/18/10 09:25 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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MOPE said: you said he used spores... well, with multispore you get many sets of genetics, so when you use spores no two grows will be the same... perfectly normal. if you want consistent results learn how to make an isolate
Indeed!
Just to elaborate this a little further: A single spore print consists of millions of spores. Each spore is a genetic individual. The genetic information of some of these spores will develop weak fruits, others will develop potent fruits. Depending on the multiple genetic information the actual mushroom that fruits is set together from, the fruits will be potent or not so potent. When you use a spore syringe to knock up jars, you shoot thousands, or hundreds of thousands of spores into the jar. Some of them will germinate, exchange genetic information and grow into a mycelial complex that's going to be the mushroom that produces the fruits. With multi spore inoculation, it's possible and common, that on a single substrate, such as a cake, there grow several individual mushrooms side by side, without you even noticing it. That's the reason, why sometime, the fruits from one end of the substrate might be extremely potent, while the other end they hardly do anything to you after consumption.
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truskool
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Re: potency between 2 seperate grows???? [Re: Fahkface]
#12052875 - 02/18/10 09:59 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Also flush to flush potency can vary
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Re: potency between 2 seperate grows???? [Re: truskool]
#12052896 - 02/18/10 10:05 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Don't forget that your body builds up tolerance from use to use.
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Fahkface
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Re: potency between 2 seperate grows???? [Re: samossa]
#12052937 - 02/18/10 10:11 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wouldn't really consider this "tolerance" (which -in this concern- is a physical effect, that vanishes a week after your last trip). Your brain probably just "remembers" certain things, that "happen" to you, when you trip, which might cause later trips to be less astonishing. Might be the other way around as well.
There's a whole bunch of factors, that have an influence on how potent mushrooms subjectively are (set/setting/food blablabla...).
Unless I really don't feel a thing, I wouldn't really call any fruits less potent than others, due to my very own experience I made with them. If several people independently say they're less potent, without being told they "were" less potent, it might be another thing.
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truskool
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Re: potency between 2 seperate grows???? [Re: Fahkface]
#12052997 - 02/18/10 10:25 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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K let me explain wat I meant in a little more detail. 1st flush every one is telling me how great the mushrooms are. second flush ppl are coming back and saying that they ate twice as much and only got half as high. Like I said before potency can vary flush to flush
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Re: potency between 2 seperate grows???? [Re: truskool]
#12053040 - 02/18/10 10:33 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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truskool said: K let me explain wat I meant in a little more detail. 1st flush every one is telling me how great the mushrooms are. second flush ppl are coming back and saying that they ate twice as much and only got half as high. Like I said before potency can vary flush to flush
I don't really know, why you felt that you had to explain it any further. Differences in flush potency are widely known to appear.
If it was a reaction to my last post, it was about the "tolerance", not about differences in potency from flush to flush
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Re: potency between 2 seperate grows???? [Re: Fahkface]
#12053065 - 02/18/10 10:37 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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yea im just waking up and jumping a little to quickly before looking
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Re: potency between 2 seperate grows???? [Re: truskool]
#12053117 - 02/18/10 10:49 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Multispore at it's finest
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