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phx1
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Bulk with HMC Compost, Suggestions?
#11788393 - 01/08/10 08:56 AM (15 years, 11 days ago) |
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So in preparation for going bulk, I bought a 10lb bag of HMC pre-pasteurized compost, Presto 23qt pressure cooker and 105qt Glove Box. I already have spores, quart canning jars and all the sanitary stuff. Any suggestions for how I can best use the HMC Compost?
I'm a noob to bulk, but was thinking about doing that and WBS in a monotub. Would that be the best route or are there better methods for larger yield?
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Re: Bulk with HMC Compost, Suggestions? [Re: phx1]
#11788483 - 01/08/10 09:20 AM (15 years, 11 days ago) |
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WBS -> compost will work, lots of people do it like that. I'm not personally a fan of monotubs, but people use those too.
But why did you buy the compost so soon? You won't need it for 3 weeks or more.
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Re: Bulk with HMC Compost, Suggestions? [Re: Doc_T]
#11788503 - 01/08/10 09:25 AM (15 years, 11 days ago) |
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Quote:
Doc_T said: WBS -> compost will work, lots of people do it like that. I'm not personally a fan of monotubs, but people use those too.
But why did you buy the compost so soon? You won't need it for 3 weeks or more.
What would you suggest?
And HMC was having a 30% off December sale.
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Re: Bulk with HMC Compost, Suggestions? [Re: phx1]
#11788535 - 01/08/10 09:35 AM (15 years, 11 days ago) |
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Personally, I've had better luck with the mini mono that I have linked in my sig block. It's a hybrid design, it uses shotgun-style holes, but self humidifies like a monotub. (You still have to mist.)
The thing with monotubs is that you have to make it perfectly perfect, then set it and forget it. And I guess I don't do that well.
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Re: Bulk with HMC Compost, Suggestions? [Re: Doc_T]
#11788589 - 01/08/10 09:47 AM (15 years, 11 days ago) |
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Doc_T said: Personally, I've had better luck with the mini mono that I have linked in my sig block. It's a hybrid design, it uses shotgun-style holes, but self humidifies like a monotub. (You still have to mist.)
The thing with monotubs is that you have to make it perfectly perfect, then set it and forget it. And I guess I don't do that well.
Well once my cakes are all flushed out I'll have a shotgunned tub very similar in size to the one you have in your sig. I don't really plan on going back to cakes.. I was disappointed with the yield. So I'll have the tub free to use. You yielded about 1oz - 1.5oz per tub? How much of my HMC compost would be used up in each tub?
I've seen some people reporting getting like 3-5oz dry off single bulk grows.. how do they do that? Is it just bigger monotubs/more substrates & spawn?
And any other suggestions (from anyone)?
I guess in the meantime I should inoculate some WBS, because I'll have to be waiting for that anyways.
Edited by phx1 (01/08/10 09:47 AM)
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Re: Bulk with HMC Compost, Suggestions? [Re: phx1]
#12032297 - 02/15/10 06:19 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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So I've done some more research.. And my WBS Jars should be colonized within the week.
I've found out that the 10lb HMC is 5-6 quarts. I'll have six quarts of WBS.
I was planning on doing two monotubs each with 5lbs of the HMC. But this doesn't seem like it'd be a good spawn to substrate ratio. Isn't the ideal like 1:2? That would only be about 1-1.5 quarts of spawn to the 2-3 quarts of HMC.
That doesn't sound like much spawn, especially since I have 6 jars.
Should I combine the HMC with something for a bulk substrate? Or just use all 10lbs in one tub?
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Re: Bulk with HMC Compost, Suggestions? [Re: phx1]
#12032400 - 02/15/10 07:13 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Typical monotubs use around 6 quarts of spawn. A brick of coir is about 6-8 quarts, and most people add some verm. (spawn ratio of around 1:2 to 1:3) So I'd say you'll get one good tub.
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Re: Bulk with HMC Compost, Suggestions? [Re: Doc_T]
#12033071 - 02/15/10 10:48 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hmm.. the WBS quart jars are only filled about 2/3rds of the way with WBS (which is typical, right?)..
Should I consider that 1 quart when putting into consideration the grain to substrate ratio?
Or would three 2/3 full WBS quart jars be considered two quarts (2/3 + 2/3 + 2/3 = 2)?
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Re: Bulk with HMC Compost, Suggestions? [Re: phx1]
#12034096 - 02/15/10 01:49 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Most of us think of "a colonized quart jar of grain" = "a quart of grain" for spawn ratio purposes.
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Re: Bulk with HMC Compost, Suggestions? [Re: Doc_T]
#12041062 - 02/16/10 04:29 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok, question.
I bought a 20 gallon clear tub, I measured the dimensions at the 5" mark to be 14inch width and 17.5inch length.
Using the substrate calculator for a 1:4 spawn ratio. 4 inch substrate depth.
With Poo 50%, Coir 35%, Verm 10% and Gypsum 5%.
It's only asking for 3.65 quarts of spawn (seems kind of on the low side?)
5.45 quarts of poo (which is right on for the entire 10lb bag)
And then 0.55 brick of coir (7.7 pints), 2.2 pints verm and 1.1 pints gypsum.
This is all new to me.. can someone clarify this for me? Is this a good ratio, how come it's only asking for less than 4 quarts of spawn.. any tips on what to do?
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Re: Bulk with HMC Compost, Suggestions? [Re: phx1]
#12041337 - 02/16/10 05:09 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hmm... if I do a 1:3 spawn ratio
and change it to just 50/50 poo and coir
that would be 4.9 quarts of poo 4.9 quarts of coir and 4.9 quarts of spawn
(1:4 ratio with the 50/50 would be 5.5 quarts of both poo and coir, 3.6 quarts spawn).
And, if memory serves me right, I don't even need a casing.. I can just mix these all together and I'm set?
Really need some advice on this. I'm considering making a new thread since no one seems to be replying to this one..
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