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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 2
    #27783305 - 05/18/22 04:57 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Everything That Lives is Holy


All who live share a common essence
A kind of brilliant nonlocal soul presence
Dour eyes do not see it, and these be most eyes
When the rare one flies open, there is naught but surprise
As Blake also said, with authority
The fool sees not as the wise the same tree

There is some animistic principle here
But don’t scoff it off as especially queer
Nature is one mind, one being, one soul
And the multitude is hovering over a shoal
While the ocean is wide, full, broad and deep
As man fools with trifles in his donjon-keep


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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 2
    #27783644 - 05/18/22 10:22 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

On an escape from my family
am old enough, can conquer reality
from a mormon family
what a tragedy.

Have let the all go
all the drama to and fro

Dumb rhyme
happens all the time

I leave it behind me
salt in the sea

Everyone matters
Pit and patter
and the gather

Is empty to me
Am free
can be me
with a family

I let it go.

Jesus died on a cross
such a loss

He held no regard for his family as the scriptures say
except water into win to let the family play

People like and reject you in life
so much strife

A time for me at my age
to say goodbye and stop rotting in an endless page

So is life and is meant to be so
those that take money and cower out, such will pout

To not have freedom, free from restraints
all a prison just the same.

I am free, finally. With nothing over me.

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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: Barnaby] * 1
    #27784674 - 05/19/22 05:40 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Cosmic Subconscious


Whatever is not being observed
Is, these days, relegated
To the category of nonexistence

That is, the notion is that
Nothing exists unless or until
It has been observed by a human

This is not true
Objectively
Everything exists

Whether or not
It is under the observation
Of a human

Now, we ought think of this
As we think of the subconscious mind
Which, of course, is not under observation
But is really running the show

Objects existing out there
Should be viewed similarly—
They exist in the subconscious of the universe

This, in fact, is also the fundamental nature
Of the human subconscious

In fact the two are really one


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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #27784679 - 05/19/22 05:42 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Evolutionary Change


When it comes to evolution
(And it is a revolution)
They tell us it’s all solved
When in fact there’s no solution

In point of fact, you see
It’s unfinished theory
Far indeed from finalized
Our lovely family tree

For one example, here you go:
By current theory, it’s too slow
Let me make myself more clear
How it changes, we don’t know

That is to say, the thesis is
DNA disconnected, ‘tis
From the whole environment
That molecule must be a whiz!

How do beings form or change?
How to account for new brains?
There’s no place for contingency
Or ways for causal chains

We cannot therefore account
In causal ways, to find the fount
Of just what process leads
To each species the last surmounts

To declare that “random” tells the tale
Is really a very poor sale
A genome connected to nary a thing
Is a neo-Darwinian fail

In the end, there’s quite a few
Loose threads, and not enough glue
That the whole thing is an accident
Strikes me as untrue


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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #27785152 - 05/20/22 01:53 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

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DividedQuantum said:
Cosmic Subconsious


Whatever is not being observed
Is, these days, relegated
To the category of nonexistence

That is, the notion is that
Nothing exists unless or until
It has been observed by a human

This is not true
Objectively
Everything exists

Whether or not
It is under the observation
Of a human

Now, we ought think of this
As we think of the subconscious mind
Which, of course, is not under observation
But is really running the show

Objects existing out there
Should be viewed similarly—
They exist in the subconscious of the universe

This, in fact, is also the fundamental nature
Of the human subconscious

In fact the two are really one




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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: pineninja] * 1
    #27786007 - 05/20/22 04:50 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Intention


Awareness always carries intention
God’s subtle and brilliant invention
This truth is seldom understood
Complexity is a convention

Science as yet cannot explain
How intent arises inside a gross brain
It wonders how matter can generate thought
Truly to see it does not deign

Of course we all know the folly of this
Neuroscience has all it tenets amiss
Complexes of atoms do not make us see
The dogma sealed with Satan’s kiss

As a matter of fact, awareness is all
And intent is how we answer creation’s call
We are conscious, the people and all animals
No creature is really too small

But anyway, all this is not yet acknowledged
Here in the West, with our dubious “knowledge”
So circumstance keeps us all on the down low
And we’ll send our kids off to college


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    #27787157 - 05/21/22 04:54 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Equipoise


Genius and insanity
Sometimes go hand in hand
When there’s no equilibrium
Or ground on which to stand

But this is not limiting
There’s plenty of Great Work
We need a word for such and such
Insinuating quirks

It doesn’t rhyme with porpoise
But that is not its purpose!
When you lay off from subtle joys
Always maintain
equipoise


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    #27789703 - 05/23/22 05:14 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

The Karma of Knowing


The question of reincarnation decidedly is apt
The things that may arise, some would just despise
But humanity seems dead-set in this life to be rapt
With old karmic ties, with glints in their eyes

Some might say that at bottom knowledge is innate
That the way that we see, is the way that we be
This goes as much for saint as it does for the ingrate
But knowledge isn’t free, not on wind or lee

This seeing of our lives seems rather to unfold
Do we learn anything new? Is wisdom false or true?
Some avuncular sages possess gifts to behold
What must they go through? What’s a soul to do?

Some of these seers prescribe taking life lightly
Let it come with ease, one need not any please
And in their age these ones are looking rather sprightly
Don’t go down on your knees, approach life like the trees

If life is singularly rolled up then to reveal
We see things in new lights, there is no phantom night
We gain our knowledge, our wisdom, a bit like it’s piecemeal
Given the gift of sight, with Nature there’s no fight


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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #27792579 - 05/25/22 04:28 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Logic


Folks put a lot of faith in logic
But a juggernaut it is not
It’s just a behavior, like anything else
Evolution stirs in its pot

It could be conceivably postulated
That our wonder is just a switch
Enabling apes to cope with survival
We all can say life is a bitch

But getting down to it, let’s take a look
An argument’s only as good
As its subjective premises, perceived by us
Examine them better, we should!

A lot of these axioms, I have to say
And damn near pretty well bonkers
Some make as much sense, let us be honest
As taking a surfboard to Yonkers

Anyway, the premises, we just have to fudge
Because there’s no way to prove them
When one examines how flimsy they are
It doesn’t take much to remove them!

It seems all we’ve got, in the way of the real
Is our personal determination
Logic is useful, yes, but it stops there
Absolute? No way in tarnation!


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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #27793012 - 05/25/22 09:45 PM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Nice

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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: Tile]
    #27793423 - 05/26/22 08:35 AM (2 years, 1 month ago)

Thx man. :peace: :heart:


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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #27794365 - 05/26/22 08:56 PM (2 years, 30 days ago)

Copenhagen Holograms


It is said
That we “create”
Whatever reality is present
And that we are all greater artists
Than we realize

While the latter is true
The former needs some tinkering
As we do not create objective
Reality

Bohr and his acolytes
Did believe
That when we observe or measure
A phenomenon
This is when it comes into being

Many dispute this

If our equations are in some correspondence
With a holographic phenomenon
The clouds begin to part
And the mist dissipates

For you see
The hologram would not need to project
Into those areas not under observation

Here’s the rub

Whatever is programming the hologram
Whether or not its projection is being observed
Still exists outside of all of this

So from this perspective
And this perspective only
The Copenhagen view is not that wrong

But in its denial of realism
And its denial of the objective
It is perhaps missing the bigger picture:

That all reality is coded everywhere


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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #27795994 - 05/28/22 02:40 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

Tired of the divide
hitting my stride

Got my first AMEX Card
to show I am a complete retard (though just always wanted one to be honest and a fuck you I am not going to live the Mormon lifestyle and meet my debts)

What is of worth to you mom
I prefer a song


I take care of myself
Do not have to be anyone else

My credit and bills are paid
when no money or religion over me all is said

More to show my Mormon mother up
and her shit wives of my brothers that never act like themselves

My stepdad died
money keeps his spirit alive

The wives are grubbing bitches
have five brothers, could care less about the riches

How the wives take over
never found a four leaf clover

Didn't make their way in life
full of strife


Tired of it all so I let my family go
have better things to do and so


The temptations of wealth
happy with health
plus at peace with myself

Let the bitches and dogs fight over it
really don't give a shit

Funny thing is he knew with cancer he was dying
not crying
just one last word to me
and that I will let be (he knew I loved him and didn't care though he left money to me, under my Mommy, lol.  Don't care and glad is done, fake son.)


I get to keep myself

Tempting as it might be
I get to be me

We are all free


The Joker and that pile of money sliding down it
the loot of disdain upon it

He could see me for me and I really don't give a shit
have just played my part in it.  Like Gary Oldman and Uncle Alfred
He made drug courts and now is in his eternal bed.

Never was corrupt and helped many
I was fucked over when young and have learned without plenty


Honestly and he made a honest living
was so much for giving

yet with religion to me always strings attached
in my life am fine and not a match

for my family and I let it go
traveling to and fro

And know how to see the world and my place in it
no amount of money will change my view of that shit

Enjoy your Summer people
in the end we are all equal.





Wow.  Poetry is better than therapy and shitty pills. 

Edited by Barnaby (05/28/22 03:01 AM)

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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: Barnaby] * 1
    #27796630 - 05/28/22 04:37 PM (2 years, 29 days ago)

A Final Truth


Man is predisposed
And science, too, especially
To seek a final, and all
Encompassing truth

Known variously
As the “Theory of Everything”
(Or TOE, for short)
Or Grand Unified Theory

This notion is particularly
Pernicious, when we consider
How destructive it can be
To a people’s psyche

If we wish to extrapolate
Our shallow Newtonian
Existence to some final
Truth, so be it

But this would be—and is
Delusional
There is so much more to existence
Than we as humans typically experience

Assuming the universe infinite
It’s like asking how many sides
And infinite circle has
The notion has no meaning

Assuming all is creativity
(And this is a brash assumption—
But not without considerable merit)
What does finality even mean?

Should we write the poem
To end all future poems?
Should we write the symphony
That makes music obsolete?

Nature is in the same vein
To speak of a final equation
Denies the infinite,
And the capacity for infinite permutation

What, indeed, is the point
Of finality, certitude
Or “theories of everything”
When all is creativity—and the potential for true novelty


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    #27796781 - 05/28/22 07:27 PM (2 years, 28 days ago)

The Spectrum


One can be more aware or less aware
This is the central dichotomy
And Lord, we all know this fact about us:
Most equate to a lobotomy

From a sage down to a salamander
Is there any other way to see it?
Awareness is our most central essence
So we ought to make efforts to be it


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    #27797243 - 05/29/22 03:32 AM (2 years, 28 days ago)

I don't like the Pub
they make it sound fun but just dumb

Endless garbage
like markers under a street garage

Nothing of worth and nothing of value
just endless shit with boring one line of the inane
makes one insane

Dumbs down the world a bit
so much worthless shit

I am just a worthless dumpster baby

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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: Barnaby] * 1
    #27799065 - 05/30/22 01:24 PM (2 years, 27 days ago)

The Present


Of course we all hear, we are now and here
And that this is the primary fact
It is plain, in the brain
We’re in pain we don’t feign
But we are dimensionally backed

When we examine, the feast and the famine
We see a picture not so simple
There’s the flood of the blood
In the crud of the mud
And the present is given a dimple

Why this need be, it flows free, it flows free
And there is indeed some delay
We’ve a clock that goes tock
Not a rock that time mocks
And we’re into it every day

It’s that one may see, one sees one may be
At a vantage that takes in a view
For some who aren’t dumb
Zero sum, no end come
Non-fundamental time is what is true

Escaping its clutches with feather-soft touches
We may be permitted to do
But in the beginning, winning and winning
And sinning until we’re up and we’re spinning
At some point the session is through

So when we reach the end, the past did portend
And find that there’s time and the timeless
We take both in our oath
Quoth the sage in his growth
Hoping when the twain join we’re not spineless


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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #27799354 - 05/30/22 05:43 PM (2 years, 27 days ago)

Quote:

DividedQuantum said:
A Final Truth


Man is predisposed
And science, too, especially
To seek a final, and all
Encompassing truth

Known variously
As the “Theory of Everything”
(Or TOE, for short)
Or Grand Unified Theory

This notion is particularly
Pernicious, when we consider
How destructive it can be
To a people’s psyche

If we wish to extrapolate
Our shallow Newtonian
Existence to some final
Truth, so be it

But this would be—and is
Delusional
There is so much more to existence
Than we as humans typically experience

Assuming the universe infinite
It’s like asking how many sides
And infinite circle has
The notion has no meaning

Assuming all is creativity
(And this is a brash assumption—
But not without considerable merit)
What does finality even mean?

Should we write the poem
To end all future poems?
Should we write the symphony
That makes music obsolete?

Nature is in the same vein
To speak of a final equation
Denies the infinite,
And the capacity for infinite permutation

What, indeed, is the point
Of finality, certitude
Or “theories of everything”
When all is creativity—and the potential for true novelty




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Re: The Official Post Your Own Poetry Thread. [Re: pineninja]
    #27801736 - 06/01/22 05:14 PM (2 years, 25 days ago)

Metaprograms of Dune


Paul Atreides
Master of the sand
The fiends of Hades
Cannot understand

A true heroic
He does comprehend
A trainèd Stoic
A darkness portends

In that darkness
Are forces insane
In that starkness
Paul must use his brain

But typical uses
Are of no use here
And frequent abuses
Come to this Dune sere

The hero be clever
Very clever he must
In some way dissever
From all who mistrust

His prescient visions
Represent the radical
His holy decisions
Indeed fully apical

Metaprogram the cosmos*
Literal worlds
Multiverse in close
Genius unfurl’d





*In Dune, Paul is metaprogramming across multiple universes. Metaprogramming is a phenomenon whereby a person overcomes his or her mental programming, and can select among an array of alternative options that are not available in ordinary consciousness (where typically a decision is restricted to two or a small few options). Paul Atreides is metaprogramming, not with multiple avenues of thought, but literally with multiple universes, nested in the multiverse. This could be considered the ultimate Magick. It is this phenomenon to which the poem refers.


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    #27802596 - 06/02/22 12:06 PM (2 years, 24 days ago)

A Clockwork Ourang


To deny a criminal his own free will
May be some sort of crime
But there are certain practical concerns
That upset this all the time

For example (and bear with me)
There is not some other place
Like a prison planet lurking
Somewhere in outer space

Where we could send the guilty
So they even could be free
The forgiving spirit of the Lord here
Does not apply, you see?

In reality we must sacrifice them
The rapists, murderers, thieves
For public safety and common good
So as few as may must grieve

Some sort of objective morality
Cannot here quite apply
Prisons are necessary expedients
If just one is made not to die


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