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Obama's orchestrated crisis
#9571992 - 01/08/09 04:32 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Obama keeps putting socialists in green disguise in power in his new government. Is this part of the Cloward-Piven Strategy? After the economic collapse the USA becomes the USSA (communist).
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The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html
Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis October 7th, 2008 • Related • Filed Under By Jim Simpson.
Jim Simpson is a former White House staff economist and budget analyst. Mom and I hope Jim becomes a regular contributor to GOPMom.com
America waits with bated breath while Washington struggles to bring the U.S. economy back from the brink of disaster. But many of those same politicians caused the crisis, and if left to their own devices will do so again.
Despite the mass media news blackout, a series of books, talk radio and the blogosphere have managed to expose Barack Obama’s connections to his radical mentors — Weather Underground bombers William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis and others. David Horowitz and his Discover the Networks.org have also contributed a wealth of information and have noted Obama’s radical connections since the beginning.
Yet, no one to my knowledge has yet connected all the dots between Barack Obama and the Radical Left. When seen together, the influences on Obama’s life comprise a who’s who of the radical leftist movement, and it becomes painfully apparent that not only is Obama a willing participant in that movement, he has spent most of his adult life deeply immersed in it.
But even this doesn’t fully describe the extreme nature of this candidate. He can be tied directly to a malevolent overarching strategy that has motivated many, if not all, of the most destructive radical leftist organizations in the United States since the 1960s.
The Cloward-Piven Strategy of Orchestrated Crisis In an earlier post, I noted the liberal record of unmitigated legislative disasters, the latest of which is now being played out in the financial markets before our eyes. Before the 1994 Republican takeover, Democrats had sixty years of virtually unbroken power in Congress - with substantial majorities most of the time. Can a group of smart people, studying issue after issue for years on end, with virtually unlimited resources at their command, not come up with a single policy that works? Why are they chronically incapable?
Why?
One of two things must be true. Either the Democrats are unfathomable idiots, who ignorantly pursue ever more destructive policies despite decades of contrary evidence, or they understand the consequences of their actions and relentlessly carry on anyway because they somehow benefit.
I submit to you they understand the consequences. For many it is simply a practical matter of eliciting votes from a targeted constituency at taxpayer expense; we lose a little, they gain a lot, and the politician keeps his job. But for others, the goal is more malevolent - the failure is deliberate. Don’t laugh. This method not only has its proponents, it has a name: the Cloward-Piven Strategy. It describes their agenda, tactics, and long-term strategy.
The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. David Horowitz summarizes it as:
The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.
Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer [and Hillary Clinton mentor] Saul Alinsky:
“Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules,” Alinsky wrote in his 1989 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system’s failure to “live up” to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist “rule book” with a socialist one. (Courtesy Discover the Networks.org)
Newsmax rounds out the picture:
Their strategy to create political, financial, and social chaos that would result in revolution blended Alinsky concepts with their more aggressive efforts at bringing about a change in U.S. government. To achieve their revolutionary change, Cloward and Piven sought to use a cadre of aggressive organizers assisted by friendly news media to force a re-distribution of the nation’s wealth.
In their Nation article, Cloward and Piven were specific about the kind of “crisis” they were trying to create:
By crisis, we mean a publicly visible disruption in some institutional sphere. Crisis can occur spontaneously (e.g., riots) or as the intended result of tactics of demonstration and protest which either generate institutional disruption or bring unrecognized disruption to public attention.
No matter where the strategy is implemented, it shares the following features:
The offensive organizes previously unorganized groups eligible for government benefits but not currently receiving all they can. The offensive seeks to identify new beneficiaries and/or create new benefits. The overarching aim is always to impose new stresses on target systems, with the ultimate goal of forcing their collapse.
more here: http://www.gopmom.com/2008/10/barack-obama-and-the-strategy-of-manufactured-crisis/
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: Luddite]
#9572046 - 01/08/09 04:43 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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i wish he was a socialist
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: Luddite]
#9572128 - 01/08/09 04:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Luddite said: The overarching aim is always to impose new stresses on target systems, with the ultimate goal of forcing their collapse.

Sentence looks like a liberal built it.
When I have an overarching aim, I always have an ultimate goal.
Thanks Luddite, that there was funny.
Was Simpson quoting something written by Cloward and Piven?
Never mind, did a search, looks like Cloward and Piven did write it.
Were either of them by any chance a Sociologist?
Edited by falcon (01/08/09 05:19 PM)
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: falcon]
#9583650 - 01/10/09 02:52 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Obama is putting a lot of commies in green disguise in his government.
Browner is an environmental radical – and a socialist (seriously)
By Examiner Editorial - 1/8/09 No, it’s not the President-elect, at least not explicitly. Conservatives are often accused of scaremongering when they claim left-wing environmentalists are actually socialists hiding behind green disguises. But with Carol Browner, incoming President Barack Obama’s freshly appointed Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change – the so-called White House “Climate Czar” - there is no question about the socialism. Browner is a member of the Commission for a Sustainable World Society (CSWS), which is a formal organ of the Socialist International. Oddly enough, the group’s web site was recently scrubbed to remove Browner’s picture and biography, but her name is still listed next to the photo-biographies of her 14 colleagues on the commission. The Socialist International is no group of woolly-headed idealists. It is an influential assembly of officials from across the international community whose official Statement of Principles describes an agenda of gaining and exercising government power based on socialist concepts.
Browner’s CSWS is similarly open about the economic costs it is willing to impose, across national borders to achieve its environmental utopia. On Sept. 5-6, 2008, the commission noted that the costs of its proposals would “rang[e] in the hundreds of billions of dollars over the next two decades,” and it called for a “redesign of the international rules on intellectual property.” That is international bureaucratese for compelling an inventor to surrender property rights in order to “share” technologies with less-developed countries.
At the Congress of the Socialist International held last June 30-July2, the CSWS officially resolved that “market solutions alone are insufficient and will not provide the financial support and resources necessary to achieve the required combination of deep emission reduction, adaptation to already changing climate conditions, energy security and equitable and environmentally sound economic development.” Again, that’s bureaucratese. It means that international taxes should be imposed to provide the “resources necessary” to impose what the CSWS repeatedly refers to as a ‘regime” against “global warming.” By appointing Browner to a White House post, Obama has at the least implicitly endorsed an utterly radical socialist agenda for his administration’s environmental policy. The incoming chief executive thus strengthens critics who contend environmental policies aren’t really about protecting endangered species or preserving virgin lands, but rather expanding government power and limiting individual freedom.
http://www.dcexaminer.com/opinion/37260274.html
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Here are the global warming movement's cultic parallels, many of whose characteristics can be found in Walter Martin and Ravi Zacharias's famous 2003 book, "The Kingdom of the Cults":
(1) Leadership by a New Age prophet -- in this case, former Vice President Al Gore.
(2) Assertion of an apocalyptic threat to all mankind.
(3) An absolutist definition of both the threat and the proposed solution(s).
(4) Promise of a salvation from this pending apocalypse.
(5) Devotion to an inspired text which embodies all the answers -- in this case Mr. Gore's pseudo-scientific book "Earth in the Balance" and his new "An Inconvenient Truth" documentary.
(6) A specific list of "truths" which must be embraced and proselytized by all cult members.
(7) An absolute intolerance of any deviation from any of these truths by any cult member.
(8) A strident intolerance of any outside criticism of the cult's definition of the problem or of its proposed solutions.
(9) A "heaven-on-earth" vision of the results of the mission's success or a "hell-on-earth" result if the cultic mission should fail.
(10) An inordinate fear (and an outright rejection of the possibility) of being proven wrong in either the apocalyptic vision or the proposed salvation.
Finally, since this cultic juggernaut has persuaded (brainwashed?) a majority of Americans into at least a temporary mindset of support for its pseudo-religious scam, Mr. Stephens's label of "mass neurosis" seems frighteningly accurate.
Jim Guirard Alexandria, Va
http://online.wsj.com/public/page/letters.html
Al Gore Places Infant Son In Rocket To Escape Dying Planet http://www.theonion.com/content/news/al_gore_places_infant_son_in
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: Luddite]
#9585120 - 01/10/09 06:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Luddite said: Browner is an environmental radical – and a socialist (seriously)
wouldnt that make him Greener and an outright commie pinko bastard
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9585647 - 01/10/09 08:21 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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What's wrong with socialism?
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: neopet nub]
#9587437 - 01/11/09 02:01 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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it's not something I feel should be a part of my life, if I wish to help someone, great, if they wish to help be, great... force me to help someone... well, fuck everyone, no one gets my help, I make the choices of whom I wanna help
<---- still owes tons of back taxes
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9587473 - 01/11/09 02:12 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think politics distract from the real issue, what laws are being passed; that is all that matters.......well, the enforcement.
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: TreeMoss]
#9589421 - 01/11/09 01:36 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the majority of americans are idiots, they simply pay no attention to politics or legislation and figure those in power are working in their best interests, they believe the news because the TV wont lie and then they vote for the one the TV told them too
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9589728 - 01/11/09 02:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: I think the majority of americans are idiots, they simply pay no attention to politics or legislation and figure those in power are working in their best interests, they believe the news because the TV wont lie and then they vote for the one the TV told them too
Yep, people don't care until something affects them very personally, as usual it is taxes that makes them suddenly interested. Or if they are in a particular field of work, have kids in school and so forth. There are so many laws with so much writing, it is really insane. You know the president doesn't read the whole damn book when he signs a law, they are HUGE!
-------------------- Drug chemicals are going to be more abundant and survive longer than any anti-drug agendas. Some of us are just ahead of the game, we already know what the future will understand. Drugs weren't bad but how some people used them were and some people just were bad because they had to be.
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: TreeMoss]
#9590318 - 01/11/09 04:23 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does anyone see a resemblance between the present depression (yes I said depression) and the events of 9-11-01? A crisis comes along and shrub used it to seize control and impose virtual martial law. No more warrants needed to spy on us, there are terrorists out there. Torture, spying, 1000 abuses, just chant the magic word terrorists and it's all ok.
Now comes along Obama and we have this time an economic crisis. What to do but toss out capitalism and impose commie style socialism. If anyone objects just say "economic crisis" and it's all ok.
And forget about pot being legalized. It ain't gonna happen.
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: Stonehenge]
#9590532 - 01/11/09 05:01 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Does anyone see a resemblance between the present depression (yes I said depression) and the events of 9-11-01? A crisis comes along and shrub used it to seize control and impose virtual martial law. No more warrants needed to spy on us, there are terrorists out there. Torture, spying, 1000 abuses, just chant the magic word terrorists and it's all ok.
wow... seems a little misguided, I'm a conspiracy nut but I realize the bush didnt seize control or make any legislation that stripped us of our rights any quicker than the rest of the elected government, torture, abuses and terrorism were going on long before bush, I think you should take the case up with the media, it's their sensationalism that has everyone looking over their shoulder for islamic fundies
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: Luddite]
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: GI_Luvmoney]
#12026310 - 02/14/10 09:23 AM (14 years, 4 days ago) |
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Browner has history of deceit on government files
It has been suggested that one reason President Barack Obama appointed Browner to a White House "czar" position is precisely that such appointees advise the chief executive directly and thus are not subject to the normal disclosure rules, thanks to executive privilege.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Browner-has-history-of-deceit-on-government-files-50358647.html
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'Put nothing in writing,' Browner told auto execs on secret White House CAFE talks; Sensenbrenner wants investigation By: Mark Tapscott Editorial Page Editor 07/08/09 5:52 PM EDT
Carol Browner, former Clinton administration EPA head and current Obama White House climate czar, instructed auto industry execs "to put nothing in writing, ever" regarding secret negotiations she orchestrated regarding a deal to increase federal Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards.
Sensenbrenner also wants a congressional investigation of why a global warming study by Alan Carlin, an EPA economist who is a career civil servant, was suppressed by EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson and other senior agency officials. The study warned of seriously damaging economic consequences for small businesses if the agency moved to regulate CO2 gases as illegal emissions under the Clean Air Act.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Put-nothing-in-writing-Browner-told-auto-execs-on-secret-White-House-CAFE-talks-50260677.html
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Re: Obama's orchestrated crisis [Re: GI_Luvmoney]
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