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65535


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What can I do with popcorn?
#12022296 - 02/13/10 03:19 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I got 4 pounds of natural popping corn at Wal-Mart the other day. What exactly can I do with it? I saw the Popcorn Tek, but I'm pretty sure I have to case it or spawn to a bulk substrate? Here's what I've got to work with:
-PC -BRF -Vermiculite -Perlite -Shotgun FC -2 strains of P. Cubensis -10 PF Tek jars, colonized anywhere from 25-100% -Some half pint jars -Popcorn -Honey (LC's maybe?) -Panaeolus Cambodginiensis print
That's about it. Anything new I can do besides PF tek?
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: 65535]
#12022346 - 02/13/10 03:29 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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You could eat it?
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: badman]
#12022395 - 02/13/10 03:39 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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badman said: You could eat it?

Best use of popcorn for mycology. It's just not well suited to any other task.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: Doc_T]
#12022447 - 02/13/10 03:49 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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You know!!
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: badman]
#12022481 - 02/13/10 03:58 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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badman said: You could eat it?

that was my answer when I read the thread's title
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: badman]
#12022482 - 02/13/10 03:59 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Besides eating it?
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: badman]
#12022494 - 02/13/10 04:01 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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http:// it will work, But many consider it the worst choice of grain. I simply made it work out of necessity.But it will grow nice big fat mushrooms, But it seems to get consumed fast.By the third flush, its gone.But i get a nice big first and second, off of it. I'm working with rye grass seed right know.But ill still make up a few popcorn jars once in a while. good luck, with it if you decide to try. any experience, is good experience. right.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: roaddog]
#12022512 - 02/13/10 04:06 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think popcorn sucks because of all the preparation time involved that's totally needless with other grains. I had pretty good results using it in my first ever grow though, I just don't use it anymore because it's a waste of time...
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: retarrrd]
#12022555 - 02/13/10 04:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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i prep like this. I put one cup of popcorn in the jar. 2/3 cup water, pinch of gypsum. I put filter discs on and a piece of aluminum foil on. I then place them in a worm spot for 24 hours. Then I pressure cook for 1 hour 30 minutes. I think that's fairly simple. I have used 24 hour soak, and boil, then dry and load method too. I always come back to making them in the jar.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: roaddog]
#12022598 - 02/13/10 04:24 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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So can I fruit colonized popcorn directly out of the jar? Could someone explain what the possible options are after the popcorn is colonized?
Also, I don't have any tyvek or rubber stoppers to make self healing lids. Aren't the USPS envelopes tyvek of some sort? I do have this: http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3614513&CAWELAID=348436332 It says silicone adhesive, but it's not like the stuff you buy at auto stores. I already drilled four holes in all of my jars for PF Tek, so I'd have to seal it somehow.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: 65535]
#12022705 - 02/13/10 04:47 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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65535 said: So can I fruit colonized popcorn directly out of the jar? Could someone explain what the possible options are after the popcorn is colonized?
Also, I don't have any tyvek or rubber stoppers to make self healing lids. Aren't the USPS envelopes tyvek of some sort? I do have this: http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3614513&CAWELAID=348436332 It says silicone adhesive, but it's not like the stuff you buy at auto stores. I already drilled four holes in all of my jars for PF Tek, so I'd have to seal it somehow.
no that's not exactly what i meant. I was ex-planing how I make grain jars. You need a tek. That you should thoroughly reed before you begin this. But some people do fruit out of the jars. I put mine in trays, and case them, then i place them in my fruiting chamber. If i remember correctly their is a couple teks, here that explain popcorn more thoroughly.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: 65535]
#12022717 - 02/13/10 04:49 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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65535 said: So can I fruit colonized popcorn directly out of the jar?
Not very well. Popcorn is not a popular grain for mycology, it just doesn't work well. Try rye or WBS.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: Doc_T]
#12022735 - 02/13/10 04:53 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: roaddog]
#12022741 - 02/13/10 04:53 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Meh.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: Doc_T]
#12022765 - 02/13/10 04:58 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Meh.
he is right, there are better choices. I'm beginning to like wbs, it colonizes fast. But if you already got the shit, I'm just saying. also check this out 50 50 caseing
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: roaddog]
#12022831 - 02/13/10 05:13 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I disagree with the posts in this thread. It seems a lot has changed since I last posted often here - but some things stay the same.
POPCORN is a GREAT substrate, I dont care what anyone says. It colonizes fast, flushes are good, less prone to contams than WBS.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: tekramrepus]
#12022834 - 02/13/10 05:14 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think a lot of people here who diss popcorn either A) Havent spent enough time with it, and made a premature opinion, B) Just listen to what others have posted on here, or C) both.
I've had amazing results with popcorn since day one - and while some substrates are obviously a better choice - like rye.....if popcorn is all you have, it works wonders.
You dont need to spawn it to bulk substrate. just use quart jars, and case w/ verm and coco coir. nothing much different than other substrates
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: tekramrepus]
#12022861 - 02/13/10 05:21 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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supermarket said: I disagree with the posts in this thread. It seems a lot has changed since I last posted often here - but some things stay the same.
POPCORN is a GREAT substrate, I don't care what anyone says. It colonizes fast, flushes are good, less prone to contams than WBS.
I do agree, I like popcorn too. I started with popcorn, it was the only thing i could get to work. If it hadn't been for popcorn, I would still be making those dam pf jars. I have manly been looking into other grains because every one her keeps telling me too.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: tekramrepus]
#12022870 - 02/13/10 05:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Everything is prone to contams if you don't do it right :P Use what ya got, popcorn works, people have used it with success. I'd suggest starting with BRF, but if you're gonna use the popcorn I would go and get a bulk substrate like poo/coir/straw to spawn it to. I <3 WBS
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: roaddog]
#12022881 - 02/13/10 05:26 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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supermarket said: I disagree with the posts in this thread. It seems a lot has changed since I last posted often here - but some things stay the same.
POPCORN is a GREAT substrate, I don't care what anyone says. It colonizes fast, flushes are good, less prone to contams than WBS.
I do agree, I like popcorn too. I started with popcorn, it was the only thing i could get to work. If it hadn't been for popcorn, I would still be making those dam pf jars. I have manly been looking into other grains because every one her keeps telling me too.
In an automated greenhouse, I've managed to use popcorn for almost a decade with successful results - never had a problem. Every other grain, like WBS, or BRF, (except for rye) has some downfall that I didnt care for.
I said it before Ill say it again, the benfits of popcorn: 1) More resistant to contams than WBS (in my opinion) 2) Faster colonization times than Rye, WBS, and BRF 3) HUGE flushes, well into the 2-3 flush. 4) cheap, although not as cheap as WBS, but nonetheless, cheap. 5) VERY easy to get. Walmart, grocery store, etc 6) easier to work with than BRF, not as easy as WBS, but still easy to prepare. simmer, PC, bam your ready to go. 7) Steady, constant results w/ this grain. If all things are constant, you will have good results each and everytime.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: tekramrepus]
#12022888 - 02/13/10 05:27 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well I have nothing to case with unfortunately. I am going to attempt to fruit directly out of the jar; whether or not that is possible I don't know. I don't really care about yields so it's worth a try.
After the popcorn is 100% colonized, what should I do? Remove the lid and set it out in the open? Mist, or put it in a FC?
Thysin- I've got some BRF cakes colonizing right now, I just need something to keep me busy. For whatever reason they're taking over a month and they are only 1/2 pint jars.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: 65535]
#12022904 - 02/13/10 05:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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65535 said: Well I have nothing to case with unfortunately. I am going to attempt to fruit directly out of the jar; whether or not that is possible I don't know. I don't really care about yields so it's worth a try.
After the popcorn is 100% colonized, what should I do? Remove the lid and set it out in the open? Mist, or put it in a FC?
Thysin- I've got some BRF cakes colonizing right now, I just need something to keep me busy. For whatever reason they're taking over a month and they are only 1/2 pint jars.
Well, I would do rez-effect then if you have to, more area for fruits. I've crumbled cakes between two layers of field cap verm and had excellent results. I believe rez effect was actually developed for grains, so I'd go check that out.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: 65535]
#12022908 - 02/13/10 05:31 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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65535 said: Well I have nothing to case with unfortunately. I am going to attempt to fruit directly out of the jar; whether or not that is possible I don't know. I don't really care about yields so it's worth a try.
After the popcorn is 100% colonized, what should I do? Remove the lid and set it out in the open? Mist, or put it in a FC?
Thysin- I've got some BRF cakes colonizing right now, I just need something to keep me busy. For whatever reason they're taking over a month and they are only 1/2 pint jars.
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65535 said: Well I have nothing to case with unfortunately. I am going to attempt to fruit directly out of the jar; whether or not that is possible I don't know. I don't really care about yields so it's worth a try.
After the popcorn is 100% colonized, what should I do? Remove the lid and set it out in the open? Mist, or put it in a FC?
Thysin- I've got some BRF cakes colonizing right now, I just need something to keep me busy. For whatever reason they're taking over a month and they are only 1/2 pint jars.
Might I inquire as to why you have nothing to case with? Vermiculite isnt very hard to find, to be honest you could probably still use tin pans, and just not case - but it would work MUCH better if you got some verm - even straight verm works decent.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: tekramrepus]
#12023162 - 02/13/10 06:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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give me bout 3 more days i'll givfe ya a pic of just how good popcorn is..i have a 64 quart monotub going AND its my very first grow, and i have sooo many mushrooms coming..to me i'd rather sit and look at them in amazement all day then have sex with the ol lady
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: biologys]
#12023175 - 02/13/10 06:25 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thysin: Can you explain what you mean by rez effect?
Supermarket- I have vermiculite, but I thought you had to mix it with something for casing. You say I can use straight verm though. Got a good tek or process for it?
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: 65535]
#12023264 - 02/13/10 06:39 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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http:// how about this, ill stop being a closet popcorn grower. lol. it for some reason has really gotten a bad rap. There must be something about it, because as soon as it gets mentioned, it is on. I assume that some folks have had allot of trouble with it. But i had more trouble with rye. I have rye grass going right know, and it seems to be going a lot slower. This is just my experience.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: roaddog]
#12023441 - 02/13/10 07:03 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I sent you a pm with the link to rez-effect, wasn't sure if I could post it here(links to other OMC). But for the benefit of others reading the thread I'll explain briefly(all it needs).
Rez-effect is just mixing colonized grain with equal parts field cap verm as if you were spawning to bulk, incubate it for a few days, then case and fruit.
Edited by thysin (02/13/10 07:04 PM)
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: thysin]
#12023989 - 02/13/10 08:32 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry to go completely off topic here, but I don't want to make another thread just for this. Here are some pictures of two PF tek cakes that were inoculated on 1-10-10. Finally, over a month later, we have pins...I think.
Jar #1


Jar #2

Do those look like pins? In #1 it's pretty obvious but in #2 you have to look carefully just to see it. It's a small white thing. I have a shotgun FC and I'm following RogerRabbit's procedures. Should I go ahead and do the 24 hour dunk and roll in vermiculite, or wait for more pins?
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: Doc_T]
#12024003 - 02/13/10 08:35 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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65535 said: So can I fruit colonized popcorn directly out of the jar?
Not very well. Popcorn is not a popular grain for mycology, it just doesn't work well. Try rye or WBS.
I just don't get why you keep saying this. I have always had excellent results spawning it to any substrate. I suspect when you tried it you didn't boil it long enough. I boil it for 90-120 minutes to hydrate it. Then I strain it, dry it some, and pc it.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: 65535]
#12024006 - 02/13/10 08:36 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd dunk/roll/fruit...be careful with the pins, they should survive and make you very happy. If you're talking about the white wart in the second pic, yup, that's a pin.
edit: Can't really tell in the second one but it's fully colonized right? Saw some dark spots, if it isn't make sure to remove the uncolonized sections to prevent contams.
Edited by thysin (02/13/10 08:38 PM)
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: 65535]
#12024017 - 02/13/10 08:38 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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65535 said: Well I have nothing to case with unfortunately. I am going to attempt to fruit directly out of the jar; whether or not that is possible I don't know. I don't really care about yields so it's worth a try.
After the popcorn is 100% colonized, what should I do? Remove the lid and set it out in the open? Mist, or put it in a FC?
This is retarded. Why waste your time colonizing popcorn if you're just going to totally waste it.
Good luck fruiting it like that. You'd get 10 times better results spawning it to anything, even potting soil if you have to.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: anonjon]
#12024053 - 02/13/10 08:45 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is retarded. Why waste your time colonizing popcorn if you're just going to totally waste it.
Because I paid for it and don't give a damn about your opinion. Thanks to some helpful advice from another member though, I am going to case it now.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: 65535]
#12024391 - 02/13/10 09:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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http:// funny you would mention it. here is a picture of some jars I tried once. they are popcorn with a little 50/50 on top. They grew mushrooms, but its hard to get them out. They also needed to be placed in a fruiting chamber. i couldn't get them to fruit just in the jars. check out all those cakes behind the jars. this was my transition from cakes to grain. sorry the picture is side ways.
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First PF Tek [Re: roaddog]
#12040854 - 02/16/10 03:54 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm back with a PF tek question. It doesn't deserve a new thread so I'll just keep it in my own.
So those pictures of my cakes up there...I did the 24hr. dunk and rolled them in verm last night, then stuck them in a shotgun fruiting chamber made according to RogerRabbit's videos. It has lots of 1/4" holes in all six sides and is raised about a half foot off the ground for airflow. There's about 2" of perlite that was saturated with water and allowed to drain before it was put in the FC.
According to my digital humidity gauge, it was at 69% last night and its 70% right now. Now I know that mushrooms need at least 90% humidity, if not more, right? I worked too damn hard drilling hundreds of holes only to have this
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Re: First PF Tek [Re: 65535]
#12040872 - 02/16/10 03:57 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Need more perlite. Watch the vids again- four to five inches.
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Re: First PF Tek [Re: Doc_T]
#12041057 - 02/16/10 04:28 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I figured that was it. It's pretty small so I thought I could get away with less, but apparently not.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: roaddog]
#12041352 - 02/16/10 05:12 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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roaddog said: http:// how about this, ill stop being a closet popcorn grower. lol. it for some reason has really gotten a bad rap. There must be something about it, because as soon as it gets mentioned, it is on. I assume that some folks have had allot of trouble with it. But i had more trouble with rye. I have rye grass going right know, and it seems to be going a lot slower. This is just my experience.
This is absolutely beautiful, man...I'm going to the store this very second to grab some fucking popcorn!
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http:// well these mushies were grown on popcorn. but you cant expect anything like this by fruiting in the jar. and i think it would be better to use some sort of casing layer, if you decide to fruit in the jar. The only reason i did it, was to have a better understanding of grains. it allowed me to watch the proses, a little better, by being able to look through the glass. this allowed me to have a better understanding of water content, during the fruiting stage. I used the growing in the jar thing as more of an experiment, than a productive way to grow mushrooms.keep this in mind if you decide to try it. i learned allot, but i didn't get a whole lot of mushrooms out of it. but it did work. i did get 3 flushes,out of it.good luck.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: roaddog]
#12045039 - 02/17/10 06:29 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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cloned c. costa rica in a quarter pint jar.
 Transferred agar to popcorn.
 You can see the wedge of agar stuck to the glass. This jar got neglected, didn't get shaken soon enough.
Spawned to a straw log, just bigger than a football.

You can see the popcorn kernals as blue nodes on the log.
 Boomers! (these are the biggest costas i've ever seen)
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: anonjon]
#12045042 - 02/17/10 06:33 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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what causes the blue in the popcorn, i was noticing it in my monotub the other day, each kernal was blue i thought i had trich and was all pissed til i realized it was only the kernals
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: biologys]
#12046070 - 02/17/10 10:35 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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nice pics bro, or should i say fellow popcorn grower.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: biologys]
#12046451 - 02/17/10 11:39 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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biologys said: what causes the blue in the popcorn, i was noticing it in my monotub the other day, each kernal was blue i thought i had trich and was all pissed til i realized it was only the kernals
From either shaking the jar to break the kernels at spawning(most likely, if you just mixed spawn w/ in a day or two) or it could be the mycelium on the kernel drying out,in both cases,it is bruising.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: 99BOOMERMAN]
#12047552 - 02/17/10 02:33 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cool pics anonjon. I am using Otto's LC Tek because I only have a jar. None of those fancy filters or tyvek. I corrected his ratios to fit a 1/2 pint jar, about 190ml water and 12ml honey.
I added this to the jar, put the original lid on, and pressure cooked for 15 mins. at 15psi. It was allowed to cool overnight, where it was then inoculated with 1mL of a TC spore syringe. It's sitting in a dark, room temp place right now. A) How long will it take until I can use it? B) Should I refrigerate it once it's colonized, or not? C) Do you guys refrigerate your spore syringes? Mine are kept at about 70F...
A word to those who have problems with Shotgun FC humidity...I drilled a lot of 1/4" holes just like RR's video said to, and put in 4" of saturated perlite. But the humidity still stayed at 70%. The easiest way to fix this is simply to cover some holes; I covered most of the lid's holes with a towel and now it's at a constant 90-95%.
I find it odd that my cakes each had two or three pins in the jar, and now that they're in the fruiting chamber they're doing nothing.
I'll upload some pics of the LC and fruiting chamber later.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: 65535]
#12048191 - 02/17/10 03:52 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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The blue occurs as it dries, and doesn't really go away.
As you're seeing it's really a challenge to get popcorn to fruit like a cake. It's really terrible for it. You might have had better luck leaving it in the jar actually.
I know 1 guy who had good success with this tho. He had a colonized popcorn jar, didn't know what to do with it, so he smashed it and fruited it.
The key was that he was constantly wetting it down. It just doesn't keep moisture in very well. If you can keep it constantly moist, you'll get some shrooms out it. I would keep humidity around 85-90 and just keep wetting it down every few hours if possible.
It's really a shame that you can't come up with some casing material. They don't have dirt where you live?
Regarding your other questions I have no use for spore syringes or lc syringes, I just mess with agar and grain transfer. No need to refrigerate nething. So don't know.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: anonjon]
#12048231 - 02/17/10 03:56 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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who are you talking to?
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: biologys]
#12048242 - 02/17/10 03:58 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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er the op, isn't he the one trying to fruit it like a cake?
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: anonjon]
#12048250 - 02/17/10 03:59 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh you answered my Q about the bluing so i thought you were referring to me on the dirt question lol
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: biologys]
#12048971 - 02/17/10 05:37 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry I've been unclear, I'm talking about my BRF/verm cakes. They were pinning in the jar and now that they're in the fruiting chamber they aren't doing anything.
About the popcorn- I'm waiting for my LC to colonize then I'll start it. I plan on casing with vermiculite, unless someone has a better idea that uses a readily available material.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: 65535]
#12050133 - 02/17/10 08:06 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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moisture control potting soil is often used as a casing mix.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: anonjon]
#12050289 - 02/17/10 08:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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When you say moisture control, I assume you mean the miracle grow brand. What ratio of casing depth to substrate depth is best? Is there a good tek for using verm or potting soil?
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: 65535]
#12050720 - 02/17/10 09:51 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
65535 said: Sorry I've been unclear, I'm talking about my BRF/verm cakes. They were pinning in the jar and now that they're in the fruiting chamber they aren't doing anything.
About the popcorn- I'm waiting for my LC to colonize then I'll start it. I plan on casing with vermiculite, unless someone has a better idea that uses a readily available material.
you should try 50/ 50 caseing, there is a killer tek on here. i have had bad luck with strate verm. but you might do better.
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Re: What can I do with popcorn? [Re: roaddog]
#12054722 - 02/18/10 03:11 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah the 50/50+ mix is pretty optimal. It's peat moss/verm plus gypsum.
i just mentioned the potting soil as a last resort.
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