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Bridgeburner
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Interdimensional hypothesis
#12014004 - 02/12/10 03:26 AM (14 years, 13 days ago) |
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Interdimensional hypothesis (IDH or IH — also called the extradimensional hypothesis or EDH) is a theory advanced by Jacques Vallée that unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and related events involve visitations from other "realities" or "dimensions" coexisting separately alongside our own. It is an alternative to the extraterrestrial hypothesis (ETH).
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If we are to believe Modern Era UFO Researchers, the "UFO Mystery" has been solved: UFO's are IFO's, i.e. space craft of an extraterrestrial origin with some of their occupants bent on saving us while others are inclined to torment us through invasive medical protocols. These same researchers claim knowledge of the occupants "true purposes" which invariably include warning humanity of the inevitable Apocalypse, Earth Changes, and creating human/alien hybrids to save their species, our species, or both species. Whether you are partial to the reports of Aryan/Nordic Space Brothers from the Pleiades or the Diminutive Greys from Zeti Reticuli the messages are all too similar: "We are not alone....THEY are HERE!"
Still other Modern Era Researchers say that UFOs are without a doubt government/military devices spawned in the Nazi Aeronautics Labs of WWII and subsequently transferred to American research facilities and/or supposed underground bases in Antarctica or the Hollow Earth (take your pick). Conspiracy researchers extrapolate from this hypothesis the idea of the UFO as a tool of some secret government or Illuminati who are trying to attain a dominating New World Order / One World Tyranny. Some of these researchers warn of an impending Grand Deception where the populace's yearning and expectation of contact will be manipulated in order for this insidious agency to take control.
Either of the above hypotheses can be interpreted within a spiritual context of greater or lesser degree, depending upon one's personal religious perspectives.
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Significantly, UFO sightings and Encounters often include other paranormal phenomena such as apparent telepathy, levitation, dematerializations, poltergeist activity, etc. The fact that witnesses often report the invasion of their minds by thoughts, images and voices before, during and after UFO encounters suggests that the phenomena has a strong psychic component. So the study of paranormal and psychic phenomena immediately comes into play when investigating UFO sightings. If, as Dr. Jacques Vallee, John Keel and others have demonstrated, the Pre Modern Era historical narratives of encounters with Faeries, flying shields & crosses, Demons, Angels, phantom airships, Spirits, the Blessed Virgin Mary, etc., are manifestations of the same phenomena reported in the Modern Era, then the question arises: Is the phenomena itself generating imagery consistent with each time period and belief system or are the witnesses reporting what they see according to their individual culturally specific perceptions? There are cases of multiple witness UFO and Entity Encounters where each person saw and experienced the phenomena differently. In one case a witness reported seeing a UFO while a second witness simply described a school bus. Other cases exist in which one person was having an experience, i.e. they felt themselves to be somewhere else with alien entities, while other witnesses watched this experiencer (who seemed in a trance) go absolutely nowhere. Yet other cases suggest that witnesses can truly "vanish without a trace" reappearing later at spots that investigators had already searched. What is the relationship between these physical disappearances and the more mental experiences? Is a singular Phenomena deliberately inducing both types of encounters forming a new experience that is both psychic and physical: a synthesis of subjective and objective into the "Subjective"?
Altered States of Consciousness play a large role in both the experiencing and investigating of these strange phenomena. Many UFO close encounter reports describe a qualitative difference in the witnesses perceptions of the immediate environment and their state of mind. It comes as no shock that witnesses should experience sensations of surprise, fear or awe, but the sounds of the environment often cease as if the experience is happening within a vacuum or "outside of time." Jenny Randles calls this the Oz Factor:
"We find it in UFO close encounters, psychic visions and many other episodes. I use the term 'Oz factor' to describe it, and believe that it suggests a sort of inner tuning, as the percipient's mind blocks out attention to all external sounds in order to note the message that is about to bombard his or her consciousness."
Numerous abduction accounts center around that zone between waking and sleeping hence the term "bedroom visitations". The realms of hypnogogic and hypnopompic imagery have only recently begun to be properly investigated.
The relation of dreams to these encounters is intriguing. Often memories of encounters are triggered by disturbing dreams. Many narratives have dream-like qualities or aspects relating to Out of Body and Near Death Experiences. This parallel was noted as early as 1975 by Jacques Vallee when he noted the similar narrative elements of both UFO experiencer Jose Antonio's account and those of out of body experiencer and researcher Robert Monroe.
Ethnobotanical researcher and philosopher Terence McKenna describes the effect of the chemical DMT (dimethyltryptamine) on human consciousness as akin to a "UFO experience on demand." He and several other "Ethnobotanical Enthusiasts" have reported the contacting of 'non-human intelligences'.
how many people are familiar with IDH? do some of you believe UFO's are biological beings from other planets? or that its all bullshit and imagination?
i'm liking this IDH stuff
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deCypher



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I think it's all probability or chaos stemming from emanations from the subconscious mind.
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P.weilii
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I don't see why it would seem so hard to believe that there are inter dimensional beings visiting us, some manifesting themselves physically and others mentally. Not to say that all UFO sightings are these beings, I personally believe the majority of them to be of terrestrial origin, while only a small percentage actually being from out of this world or dimension.
As for the question of the UFO's themselves being biological beings, I think this is just as possible as any of the ideas proposed above. After all, why should it be so hard to believe that alien life could evolve in such a away as to elicit unaided space travel.
Not to say that I am a fervent believer in anything, I just try to keep an open mind about all topics.
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deCypher



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Re: Interdimensional hypothesis [Re: P.weilii]
#12014100 - 02/12/10 04:26 AM (14 years, 13 days ago) |
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Sounds like you're still accepting the belief axiom that your subjective reality is real, though. See RA Wilson and his concept of 'reality tunnels'.
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P.weilii
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Re: Interdimensional hypothesis [Re: deCypher]
#12014107 - 02/12/10 04:32 AM (14 years, 13 days ago) |
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Just a quick google search and I can tell that the concept of "reality tunnels" is something that I (as I'm sure any experienced tripper) have toyed with before. It's interesting to see that this theory has been stated before, and probably in more depth than I myself could. So it looks like I have some reading to do! thanks
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