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My toilet leakes?
#12007697 - 02/11/10 08:48 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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So I think my toilet has a slow leak. The area behind it is alwyas damp and shit, but there is never any visible running water or anything like that. Maybe a slow drip that has been going on for a while?
The water level in teh toilet is .5" lower than it used to be (and yes, I can tell because of the gross ring - because i'm a lazy stoner college kid who doesnt clean his toilet often enough).
What can i do to figure this out? I dont want to call maintenance cuz i' dhave to hide my bongs 'n shit.
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If it's like mine, there are two large bolts on the bottom of the tank that hold the tank in place. There are usually globs of silicone that the installer put over the bolts to keep them from leaking. Mine sprung a slow leak, and it was from these (the silicone had started to peel away.)
Drain the toilet, get some bathroom silicone and glob those suckers back up. Let it dry completely (read the label on the silicone, but it can take 24 hours) and then fill'er back up and check for leaks.
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Re: My toilet leakes? [Re: memes]
#12007722 - 02/11/10 08:56 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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courtesy ehow.com
For leaks at the fill valve
1.) First, tighten all connections. If the leak persists, determine the leak's source by drying everything with a towel, then looking and feeling for water.
2.) Turn off the water supply to the toilet, flush to drain the tank and sponge out any remaining water.
3.) Use a wrench to disconnect the supply-tube coupling nut and remove the fill valve's mounting nut
4.) Lift out the fill valve to clean the gasket and washer. If either is damaged or dried out, replace it
5.) Reseat the valve, carefully centering it in the hole and holding it vertical as you tighten the mounting nut about a half turn past the point of full contact.
6.) Reinstall the water-supply tube and turn on the water to test it. If necessary, tighten the mounting nut a little more.
For leaks at the flush valve
1.) Drain the tank and supply-tube coupling as described in step 1, above. Remove the tank's mounting bolts using a large standard screwdriver on the bolt and either a socket wrench or channel type pliers on the nut. Lift off the tank.
2.) With the tank upside down, pull or twist off the rubber spud washer and use a spud wrench to unscrew the large locking nut from the flush valve.
3.) Lay the tank on its side and remove the flush valve.
4.) Remove the beveled cone washer from the flush valve. Clean it and the spud washer with a soapy sponge (or replace them if they are in poor condition).
5.) Reverse the procedure to reinstall the tank. Make sure the beveled side of the cone washer is facing the tank's inside and the beveled side of the spud washer is facing the bowl.
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Re: My toilet leakes? [Re: memes]
#12007782 - 02/11/10 09:10 AM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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If sealing/retightening the valves is not fruitful, it could be a simple condensation problem. If the relative humidity is adequate, the cool bowl can cause constant moisture build-up around the toilet. The usual proximity of toilet and shower could even be causing the moisture to collect and bead-off the back of the bowl every time the shower is used.
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BrnDubies said: If sealing/retightening the valves is not fruitful, it could be a simple condensation problem. If the relative humidity is adequate, the cool bowl can cause constant moisture build-up around the toilet. The usual proximity of toilet and shower could even be causing the moisture to collect and bead-off the back of the bowl every time the shower is used.
Mine does this. Or maybe it could be the wax ring at the base of the floor.
Turn of water, flush toilet to remove most water. Take two nuts off and rock the toilet back and forth to get the wax ring to release. Clean the wax out, and install new ring.
They are less than $5 at Lowes.
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Re: My toilet leakes? [Re: memes]
#12009328 - 02/11/10 01:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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If the water in the tank is always .5 low it probably isn't a leak. It may just be that the level setting mechanism has, over time, deteriorated. Float chambers can become saturated or flooded. Another possible explanation for the dampness behind it is condensation. When the toilet fills up with cold water and the house has high humidity there will occasionally be some condensation. Do you have steam heat or a humidifying system?
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Just be careful with old plumbing RP. Often times it is corroded and brittle so when you turn one thing, another thing breaks and the next thing you know you're back at the shiny new DIY forum asking how to build an outhouse. Just don't force things and rubber gaskets are better than silicone IMO. I think your wax ring may need replaced. They are cheap enough that I always buy a couple in case I seat the toilet wrong and mess the first one up. I'd rather return one later than have to rush to go get another but that's just me and my Tim Taylor ways.
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Re: My toilet leakes? [Re: memes]
#12010439 - 02/11/10 04:47 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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meams said: So I think my toilet has a slow leak. The area behind it is alwyas damp and shit, but there is never any visible running water or anything like that. Maybe a slow drip that has been going on for a while?
The water level in teh toilet is .5" lower than it used to be (and yes, I can tell because of the gross ring - because i'm a lazy stoner college kid who doesnt clean his toilet often enough).
What can i do to figure this out? I dont want to call maintenance cuz i' dhave to hide my bongs 'n shit.
It's probably the wax ring under the toilet where it connects to the drain line.. There are also dyes that can be bought to put in the tank or bowl that will show you where the leak is by plainly marking the source if you think it's a cracked bowl/tank. There are a few other places where it could be leaking, or it could be condensation on the back of the tank.
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Yeah, they're about $1.29 each. But you still have to go through the whole jive of disconnecting and removing the toilet to fix it. Which, even if everything goes well, requires a fair amount of tools not all of which are owned by the average apartment dweller.
If you have to disassemble the toilet I would recommend that you just put the fucking bongs away for a day or so.
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haha fo' sho'. I guarentee I won't be turnin' into tom-the-tool-man-taylor or anything. i am an economist, afterall
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Re: My toilet leakes? [Re: memes]
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:ilol: :ilol:
Replacing a wax ring requires nothing but a wrench and a chisels to scrap off the old wax. I just did mine a few weeks ago. Took less then 30 minutes and Ive never done one before.
After you replace it make sure you sit on the toilet (backwards) holding the tank and rock back and forth and side to side. This will seat the ring and make a nice seal
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Sillicybin said: If it's like mine, there are two large bolts on the bottom of the tank that hold the tank in place. There are usually globs of silicone that the installer put over the bolts to keep them from leaking. Mine sprung a slow leak, and it was from these (the silicone had started to peel away.)
that silicone is the reason it was leaking, it's supposed to have thick rubber washers
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Replacing a wax ring requires nothing but a wrench and a chisels to scrap off the old wax.
dont even scrape the old wax, it'll add more for sealing
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Replacing a wax ring requires nothing but a wrench and a chisels to scrap off the old wax.
dont even scrape the old wax, it'll add more for sealing
QFT. Or if you want to get rid of the old one, you can buy two regular sized ones and pancake them together but you risk having a bit of a messy abundance of wax. Also, you can get jumbo ones that might give you a more snug fit as well.
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I've had to take a sawzall to the bolts on a toilet more than once, especially if the wax ring was the cause of the leak. Then there is the water supply which must be turned off (hopefully the valve still works) and disconnected from the tank (hopefully those aren't frozen either) or at the valve (hopefully that compression fittiing is sound).
It can be easy or it can be a bitch and a half. And I wouldn't go jumping to any conclusion that the wax ring is causing the leak or if there even is a leak at all. It might just be condensation.
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Re: My toilet leakes? [Re: idiotek]
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Replacing a wax ring requires nothing but a wrench and a chisels to scrap off the old wax.
dont even scrape the old wax, it'll add more for sealing
QFT. Or if you want to get rid of the old one, you can buy two regular sized ones and pancake them together but you risk having a bit of a messy abundance of wax. Also, you can get jumbo ones that might give you a more snug fit as well.
pancaking 2 together is not a good idea. If you need a think one just get a thick one. I ALWAYS get the thick ones anyhow just because they are a better seal IMO. And yes, scrape the old wax out. More then likely its nasty as phuck and it will be a better seal to just scrape it out.
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why exactly is that, my pop was a plumber for 50 years, it's a method he trusts
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legallyhomeless said: pancaking 2 together is not a good idea.
why exactly is that, my pop was a plumber for 50 years, it's a method he trusts
You didnt read the rest of that....
"pancaking 2 together is not a good idea. If you need a think one just get a thick one. I ALWAYS get the thick ones anyhow just because they are a better seal IMO."
Not to mention I get the ones that have that coupling part built in.
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legallyhomeless said: pancaking 2 together is not a good idea.
why exactly is that, my pop was a plumber for 50 years, it's a method he trusts
You didnt read the rest of that....
"pancaking 2 together is not a good idea.
this was the part I was questioning, the rest wasnt relevant to this statement, using a new standard over top of the old is the same as using a thick one, except there's less work, less mess and lass hassle
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Not to mention I get the ones that have that coupling part built in.
which makes no difference since the parts stack together, if you already have wax on the closet flange and floor, add another layer of wax that conforms and seals how is that going to be any worse than scraping the goo and adding a new one
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the rest of my quote (which for some reason you failed to add) said... IMO
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opinion rather than experience... experience is why it was recommended to stack the rings
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Yes my opinion.
I know a lot of plumbers (how I learned to fix my wax ring) and not one of them would tell you to get 2 wax rings rather then 1 thick one.
They wouldnt make thick ones if it was just as easy to use 2 small ones.
That's like using 2 small cups to drink out of rather then 1 big one. If you need a small ring, get one, if you need an extra thick one (for a better seal or for uneven floors) then get an extra thick one.
On another note, cost. 1 thin ring runs around $2, same as a thick ring (give to take a few cents)
So you can spend $4 on 2 thin rings or $2 on 1 thick ring 
if your telling me 2 rings is better then 1, OR as just of a trusted method... then you must be an expensive plumber charging all your clients for an extra ring that they dont need.
Plus leaving the ring on doesnt hurt... but its just a piss pour way to do a repair. Would you add more glue to a piece of wood without scraping the old dry glue off? I wouldnt
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I know a lot of plumbers (how I learned to fix my wax ring) and not one of them would tell you to get 2 wax rings rather then 1 thick one.
They wouldnt make thick ones if it was just as easy to use 2 small ones.
how about one standard on top of the old one, it's not getting 2 wax rings, it's only getting one and adding it to what's already there, strangely enough I know lots of plumbers too and I dont know a single one that would recommend scraping the old wax and replacing it as opposed to just adding a new one to the old, preexisting wax
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On another note, cost. 1 thin ring runs around $2, same as a thick ring (give to take a few cents)
um.. because you'll only be buying one in either case, as mentioned a dozen tiems, leave the old wax, add the SINGLE new wax ring and set the fixture
$1.07 https://www.hardwareworld.com/WSleeve-Wax-Ring-p10K9E0.aspx
$4-$8 http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=wax+ring&ved=0CB0QrQQwAg&cid=6422297589344052378&sa=title#p
So you can spend $4 on 2 thin rings or $2 on 1 thick ring 
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if your telling me 2 rings is better then 1, OR as just of a trusted method... then you must be an expensive plumber charging all your clients for an extra ring that they dont need.
I still dont understand where you're getting the buy 2 rings bullshit, they had already bought the old ring when they bought the house, I'm simply recommending a method that saves time, effort and mess, a method that's recommended by plumbers everywhere
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Replacing a wax ring requires nothing but a wrench and a chisels to scrap off the old wax.
dont even scrape the old wax, it'll add more for sealing
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Plus leaving the ring on doesnt hurt... but its just a piss pour way to do a repair. Would you add more glue to a piece of wood without scraping the old dry glue off? I wouldnt
yet you've only done it once and you've misconstrued everything said in this thread about wax rings... quick lesson, thick rings are for applications where the closet flange sits below the flooring surface, standard rings are for applications where it rests on top, adding a new ring to the old wax is a standard in repair because the wax is messy as fuck and frankly, pretty nasty...
ok Mr. Apples and Oranges, lemme ask you a question about wood and glue... would you wet your wood before you glue it up?
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Wetting wood before gluing? yes. But it depends on the type of glue. Also...
Add some glue and rub it in then let it dry. THEN you can glue the pieces together.
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OP,It most likely is.....the wax ring.You only need 1 new one it is more than enough to seal the toilet to the flange.I am a plumber......take my word,Remove the old ring,no tools are needed to remove the wax seal except a pair of disposable gloves to keep that mess of the porcelain toilet.The tail end of the trap under the toilet is only a few inches above the floor ,so keeping the old seal is unnecessary and when placing the toilet back on it it could cause the excessive wax to squeeze into the 3-4 inch ideal bend of the pipe causing either a clog or a partial clogg where all paper will build up around the wax , and eventaully back up on you. As long as you replace the ring w/ a new one ,whether you have a rubber washer or metal will not matter,when purchasing (closet bolts) to hold the toilet to the flange/floor,the bolts will come w/ metal washers,not rubber. Before r/r'ing (remove/reseal) toilet, flush toilet and get down on floof w/ flash light and watch the valve coming from wall/floor to toilet ,check the "flex" line(flexable pipe/hose going into bottom of tank) and if there is a valve at the floor/wall ,..check them for leaks while tank is filling up. Make sure if you have no shut off in the bathroom,that you shut off the main before disconnecting the flex line from the tank. If you have any questions , feel free to pm me anytime,I'd be happy to walk you through any problems plubing related.
BTW, wetting wood before gluing or setting compounds is used mostly w/ epoxy and or laying tile is just to keep the adheisive from setting/drying ,...giving more time to work with it.
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why make the additional mess
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BTW, wetting wood before gluing or setting compounds is used mostly w/ epoxy and or laying tile is just to keep the adheisive from setting/drying ,...giving more time to work with it.
some glues wont set without the moisture, wetting backerboard or concrete before setting tiles can cause a failure of adhesion
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99BOOMERMAN said: I am a plumber......take my word,Remove the old ring
why make the additional mess
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BTW, wetting wood before gluing or setting compounds is used mostly w/ epoxy and or laying tile is just to keep the adhesive from setting/drying ,...giving more time to work with it.
some glues wont set without the moisture, wetting backerboard or concrete before setting tiles can cause a failure of adhesion
Why make the mess???Because that would take 30 seconds to remove ,and take away the great possibility that that protruding wax won't clog either the ideal bend ,or worse,if the toilet is located on a second floor or above:A clogged stack,then you 're gonna need a heavy duty power snake,lugged up to the bathroom to clear the line,and that's gonna cost a few bills,why chance it,"just to be lazy",......not worth it.
And I was referring to floor tile,and it is not a common practice,but in some cases,when laying large areas,this is a way to keep everything workable.That's why My comment was vague ,and I was simply stating a fact,not trying to argue or put you out,chillax pris.Not trying to argue penis size here,just giving professional advice from an experienced plumbing/and drain cleaning specialist.
Also,It doesn't seem feesable that adding a little moisture to any mastics,morter,or even concrete is going to lead to definite failure ,when all of the above either contains or needs water added.Only In a severe case where a retard floods or puddles the material or work surface will it fail,otherwise I would imagine a longer cure/drying time will be imminent.
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99BOOMERMAN said: Because that would take 30 seconds to remove ,and take away the great possibility that that protruding wax won't clog either the ideal bend ,or worse,if the toilet is located on a second floor or above:A clogged stack,then you 're gonna need a heavy duty power snake,lugged up to the bathroom to clear the line,and that's gonna cost a few bills,why chance it,"just to be lazy",......not worth it.
never once seen that problem, it takes a shitload of wax to clog a 3" pipe, almost twice as much to clog a 4", far more than you'll get from a wax ring
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And I was referring to floor tile,and it is not a common practice,but in some cases,when laying large areas,this is a way to keep everything workable.That's why My comment was vague ,and I was simply stating a fact
ok so something that wicks water quickly from both the surface and the 'mastic', what happens when the concrete releases that extra moisture into an adhesive designed for dry locations...
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just giving professional advice from an experienced plumbing/and drain cleaning specialist.
Also,It doesn't seem feesable that adding a little moisture to any mastics,morter,or even concrete is going to lead to definite failure, when all of the above either contains or needs water added.
same here, I did plumbing prior to working with my pop, as mentioned he had 50 years under his belt, also did concrete repair, restoration and custom work which included tile, if thinset is too dry or too wet it's going to fail, if mastic gets wet it fails
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Pris, I don't wanna argue this small stuff,because we are both right in some aspects,and also wrong in others. Like ,depending on what material is being applied,the consistency will vary,mastics or mud is mixed at different consistencies depending on whether it is adhered to a wall(thicker,like peanut butter),adhered to the floor it can be thinner ,but the water ratio is what increases or decreases. Honestly pris,I didn't understand what you were saying about adhesive not working b/c of concrete putting out the extra moisture.Since when did concrete need adhesive.(I don't know if that is what you were getting at) AS far as the wax clogging the 3 or 4 inch (minimum by code 3")line,Yes , it can and will.I was going to go back in my last response and add it ,cause I had a feeling you would challenge that,but it may not clog right then ,as many blockages start as paper catches on a partial obstruction and builds like a dam.Thus catching fecal matter and paper which compiles on the wax ,then dries becoming a tight wad,that constantly builds bigger and wets,and dries repeatedly until it is a killer hard spot in the line.Not to mention all the other things that are flushed,tampons,sanitary pads,applicators, and the worst right next to tampons ,....paper towels.,oh, and the calcium build up after years and years can be like bone,and cast iron scale.If we are talking stacks.I started at age 12 as drain cleaner,operating any kind of power snake you can name.My family is all plumbers and drain cleaners,cause my grand father owned the first of many companies that we now own.Each uncle went out independent,and my grand fathers co, was bigger than rotorooter is ,but back then 500,000.00 a year co.1960-80's,that was some good business.Also ,have my own customer base,as a result of my own co,which I had to pull away from due to major drug and alcohol issues,not on the job,but it had major repercussions on my capital and brand new truck payment.Going on 1 year next month if you care to hear. You do know a thing or two ...I will attest ,so let's just say we can both be of some assistance here,...how about that. I would like to know alittle about concrete laying.If I ever have any questions may I Hit you up pris????
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READ THE FUCKING DIRECTIONS ON THE CONTAINER IT CAME IN!
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Re: My toilet leakes? [Re: memes]
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A new wax ring never hurts, but in your case, I bet it's just condensation from the outside of the bowl. If you ever want to know if there is a leak in your toilet, all you have to do is just be quiet and listen to it for a min. If there is a leak, you will hear it.
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LouiseLouise said: A new wax ring never hurts, but in your case, I bet it's just condensation from the outside of the bowl. If you ever want to know if there is a leak in your toilet, all you have to do is just be quiet and listen to it for a min. If there is a leak, you will hear it.
This may work sometimes,.....not entirely true.With plumbing lines/and water,.....the water will leak from one place and end up end up in another.Water can and will follow the line to the lowest points or elbow,..then run down another pipe,or in that case , maybee down the bowl.Best way is to run the fixture while using you're eyes,not ears.Ears are a secondary sense in humans anyway. Just as a dog's primary sense is it's nose,ours is our eyes,then ears. But with a significant leak, sure you could hear it dripping/running off.
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if it's a slow, most times the fingers work best especially in the case of a toilet where it's a PITA to crawl around on the floor to look behind it or under the tank...
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legallyhomeless said: pancaking 2 together is not a good idea. If you need a think one just get a thick one. I ALWAYS get the thick ones anyhow just because they are a better seal IMO. And yes, scrape the old wax out. More then likely its nasty as phuck and it will be a better seal to just scrape it out.
Excellent advice. Two may be too much and could crack the bowl.
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legallyhomeless said: pancaking 2 together is not a good idea. If you need a think one just get a thick one. I ALWAYS get the thick ones anyhow just because they are a better seal IMO. And yes, scrape the old wax out. More then likely its nasty as phuck and it will be a better seal to just scrape it out.
Excellent advice. Two may be too much and could crack the bowl.
LOL, I'm sorry, but that's just silly.
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Re: My toilet leakes? [Re: idiotek]
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luvdemshrooms said:
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legallyhomeless said: pancaking 2 together is not a good idea. If you need a think one just get a thick one. I ALWAYS get the thick ones anyhow just because they are a better seal IMO. And yes, scrape the old wax out. More then likely its nasty as phuck and it will be a better seal to just scrape it out.
Excellent advice. Two may be too much and could crack the bowl.
LOL, I'm sorry, but that's just silly.
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legallyhomeless said: pancaking 2 together is not a good idea. If you need a think one just get a thick one. I ALWAYS get the thick ones anyhow just because they are a better seal IMO. And yes, scrape the old wax out. More then likely its nasty as phuck and it will be a better seal to just scrape it out.
Excellent advice. Two may be too much and could crack the bowl.
LOL, I'm sorry, but that's just silly.
You're silly. It happens just as using a cold (perhaps stored in a cold garage) wax ring can crack a bowl. They aren't as tough as they look.
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Yeah, but the bowl may already be wet from condensation. If it was leaking at the base of the tank, it will cause the float valve to kick on when it runs low, but you should probably hear the water leaking before you hear the valve kick on. If it is leaking at the ring, you will notice the unmistakable smell of sewage. Subtle at first, but unmistakable.
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1) The ring would have to be damn near frozen solid to break the bowl 2)who installs a frozen wax ring,it needs to be warm enough to conform to the flange and tail end of the toilet trap.That would be like applying frozen putty to a basket strainer in a kitchen sink,no seal.The waxy consistency is what acts kind of like a washer and an "o" ring in one.A wax ring has the texture and consistency of hardened grease/lard, even when cold it's somewhat soft.It is a must have in my inventory that I carry on my truck at all times,Dead of winter included.Never had a ring freeze,and for the sake of argument,if it did freeze,it would be workable in the time it takes to R&R the toilet.(R&R)=remove/reseal
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And yet here in the Northeast, it happens.
A plumber friend of mine loves to laugh at those who have done it. As well as laugh at those who tighten the flange bolts "just a little bit more".
If you are truly a plumber, you must have seen all kinds of homeowner stupidity.
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legallyhomeless said: pancaking 2 together is not a good idea. If you need a think one just get a thick one. I ALWAYS get the thick ones anyhow just because they are a better seal IMO. And yes, scrape the old wax out. More then likely its nasty as phuck and it will be a better seal to just scrape it out.
Excellent advice. Two may be too much and could crack the bowl.
just as a thick one could be too much and pose the same problem albeit again very unlikely in either case... it seem that no one understands, this isnt installation of 2 new rings, just the installation of a single ring over wax that's already been compressed
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luvdemshrooms said: And yet here in the Northeast, it happens.
here in the south we're smart enough not freeze the wax before installation, maybe you guys up in the north east should learn about fernco wax free seals, they dont freeze so even you guys wont have to worry about cracking the toilet because you left the wax in the garage
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luvdemshrooms said: And yet here in the Northeast, it happens.
here in the south we're smart enough not freeze the wax before installation, maybe you guys up in the north east should learn about fernco wax free seals, they dont freeze so even you guys wont have to worry about cracking the toilet because you left the wax in the garage
Yes. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the difference in temps.
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Cracking a toilet with a frozen wax ring would have to be the ultimate in plumbing newbie screw-ups.
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luvdemshrooms said: And yet here in the Northeast, it happens.
A plumber friend of mine loves to laugh at those who have done it. As well as laugh at those who tighten the flange bolts "just a little bit more".
If you are truly a plumber, you must have seen all kinds of homeowner stupidity.
Yup,I have seen all types of homeowner and apprentice's mistakes ;such as tightening the closet bolts to much ,resulting in a cracked/broken toilet.Sorry , I have personally never seen or heard of a toilet bowl break , due to a cold ring,however,I am sure somehow, some way,somebody has.Just like the old saying goes,"what can go wrong,....will go wrong".
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So after I didn't do anything, the leak started to get a little worse, i noticed it was decently wet behind the toilet. It was ddripping 1-2 drops every second. I put somethin' under it to catch it and called maintenance.
Fixed, yay.
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Re: My toilet leakes? [Re: memes]
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meams said: So after I didn't do anything, the leak started to get a little worse, i noticed it was decently wet behind the toilet. It was ddripping 1-2 drops every second. I put somethin' under it to catch it and called maintenance.
Fixed, yay.
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Re: My toilet leakes? [Re: idiotek]
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My actions generated the chain of events that lead to the problem getting fixed. By a liberal interpretation of the phrase, I "did it myself"
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Re: My toilet leakes? [Re: memes]
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