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 tektonic
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 Syrian Rue Extraction Tek 
#10960619 - 08/29/09 10:39 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is how I get my harmaline.
Ingredients:
40g Syrian rue seeds
150ml distilled water
35g pure salt
20-30ml white vinegar
1. Mix 150ml water(distilled is best) & 30ml white vinegar
2. Coffee grind the seeds,
Add 40g ground rue seeds
Optional: *at this point you can leave a jar of this to sit for 5days-4weeks, huge yield no heat required, can skip heating steps*
3. Heat the jar at low/medium for 1-6 hours, sit the jar aside for 24h,
repeat heating steps for better yield, i like to shake my jars while heating
Optional: *after the final heating put the jar aside for 12h+ so it can decant*
4. Now you need to pour off the top liquid, and filter out all solids.
(I just use coffee filters, on the decanted solution)
Filtering can get tricky, try a small amount of solution first
*Save all your solids and repeat 1-4, as needed*
So now you have a jar of acetic/water/rue solution, time for the magic.
For every 180ml of solution, take 35g of pure, non-iodized salt. I use rock salt.
5. Heat your solution, and add the 35g salt, stir and heat until all salt is dissolved.
6. At any point put the jar in the back of your fridge and wait 1-2 weeks, everyday you will see more and more harmaline collecting at the bottom.
7. Pour out the liquid, dry the preciped solids (harmaline)
With this tek I have pulled between 2 and 5 grams harmaline/harmine/tetraharmine per 40g of seeds, depending on the time in the acetic solution.
Yield = Time in acetic acid = Heat
P.S. I filter and freeze precip my rock salt so i know it's pure
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 joemolloy
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Re: Syrian Rue Extraction Tek [Re: tektonic]
#10960949 - 08/29/09 12:03 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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How many milligrams of harmala alkaloids do you use to inhibit your mono oxidase for oral dmt?
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tektonic
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Re: Syrian Rue Extraction Tek [Re: joemolloy]
#10961079 - 08/29/09 12:34 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
joemolloy said:
How many milligrams of harmala alkaloids do you use to inhibit your mono oxidase for oral dmt?
whatever your tek is for aya, there's plenty of info on dosage online
i'm going to eat 150mg of it for pharmahuasca in a few day's 
i'm assuming the product of this method would be 85%+ alkaloids (could be closer to 95%?)
Harmaline / Harmine / Tetrahydroharmine
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tektonic
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Re: Syrian Rue Extraction Tek [Re: tektonic]
#10961093 - 08/29/09 12:37 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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the finished product glows orange under a black light
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tektonic
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Re: Syrian Rue Extraction Tek [Re: tektonic]
#10961149 - 08/29/09 12:49 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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I filter and freeze precip my rock salt so i know it's pure
rock salt has black crap all over it, i think it's rocks, from mining the salt
it would add considerable weight to your end result if you just threw in 35g of raw rock salt
so to combat this,
1. simmer water on the stove and add salt til it wont dissovle anymore
2. run the hot salt solution thru a coffee filter
3. put the salt solution into quart jars and freeze precip the salt out, only 12 hours in the freeze drops massive pure salt xtals
4. pour the salt solution back into the pot of water
5. put salt on a plate to dry
warning: this ruins metal if you let all the water dry out on your stove
*dont dry salt on metal*
i'd like to find an easier method of getting pure NaCl, like buying it
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joemolloy
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Re: Syrian Rue Extraction Tek [Re: tektonic]
#10961598 - 08/29/09 02:15 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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tektonic said:
Quote:
joemolloy said:
How many milligrams of harmala alkaloids do you use to inhibit your mono oxidase for oral dmt?
whatever your tek is for aya, there's plenty of info on dosage online
i'm going to eat 150mg of it for pharmahuasca in a few day's
i'm assuming the product of this method would be 85%+ alkaloids (could be closer to 95%?)
Harmaline / Harmine / Tetrahydroharmine
I took 150 milligrams and it didn't bring me where I belonged. I took 200 and that was my sweet spot - a nice long and intense trip. Have fun.
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Re: Syrian Rue Extraction Tek [Re: joemolloy]
#11230811 - 10/12/09 12:27 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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So I read a bunch of different extraction guides for syrian rue and ended up following a procedure similar to this one but I definitely think I added to much acid. Can anyone help me out here? It looks like some are definitely having success with extracting these alkaloids but I'm having a little bit of trouble.. here's what I did in a nutshell:
I used about 350 ml of 5% acetic acid solution and 24 grams of powdered
seeds.
The 350 milliliter solution was divided into roughly 3 equal volumes.
The 24 grams of seeds were water bath heated for about 35 to 40 minutes in one of the acetic acid volumes. The syrian rue and acetic acid solution never reached a boil during this time but the solution became quite warm. After the boil the entire rue/acid solution was filtered through cheesecloth and the liquid was saved. The solid particles were then again immersed in fresh acetic acid solution and a new boil was started.
This process was repeated two more times with the other two volumes of acetic acid.
All three collections were then placed in the fridge to let the sediment in the solution settle to the bottom.
The next day, the supernatant was decanted into a new container and the solids were left in the bottom of the old container.
About 5 grams of salt were added to the supernatant solution at room temperature. Stirred. Almost all of the salt dissolved but some at the bottom wouldn't dissolve so I figured the solution must be saturated at this point.
The salt saturated rue/acid solution was placed in the fridge overnight. The next day I expected to see some solids at the bottom. Nothing showed up.
What gives? Can anyone help
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tektonic
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you didn't use nearly enough salt, and there was too much water,
i use 30-35g salt to each 40g seeds & 180ml of water,
so for 350ml water you would need like 60g+ salt & 80g seeds
you should probly use more like 150ml of water or less imo
you need to near-boil the solution before you put in the salt and stir it very well until all the salt goes away
then put it in the fridge for atleast 3-5 days, to precip harmaline
heat doesn't hurt harmaline much, so dont worry about loss
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Re: Syrian Rue Extraction Tek [Re: tektonic]
#11248870 - 10/14/09 08:39 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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thanks for the tips tektonic.. I appreciate it
After a day or two I had some stuff settle down at the bottom of the jar.. The first run through left some really brown sediment at the bottom. This definitely disappointed me and wasn't really what I was looking for. The second run through, which came after waiting for a couple days with the jar in the fridge with a gram or so of salt added to it, has produced sediment that is much more red in color than the dirty brown stuff from the first round. It's actually kind of an orangish color when fully dried out. It's got a slight sparkle to it but nothing reaal intense.
Is this sounding better?
I slipped when doing the initial stages of this extraction, so that's the reason for the excess vinegar.. But I was really surprised because the salt i'm using doesn't really want to dissolve that well, even when I heat up the vinegar/rue solution to 150+ degrees F. It says it's 100% natural salt with no iodide or any preservatives.. It should be good to go..
Maybe my filtering isn't good enough? I've been using an old t-shirt because i've found that coffee filters are too tightly woven and cheesecloth is too loose and lets too many particles through.
Any more tips would be awesome! I think i'm heading in the right direction with this one
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tektonic
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that orange shiny stuff sounds right
not sure why your salt isn't dissovling
i add mine to near-boiling solution and then stir for about 10min under heat until all the salt is gone
also, i use rock salt, but table salt should be the same i think
and you need to fridge decant before filtering, that gets most of the floaters out of the solution, then coffee filters
if you have a blacklight you can check for actives at any point by checking if your jars/hands/end product glow orange under it
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Re: Syrian Rue Extraction Tek [Re: tektonic]
#11984651 - 02/07/10 08:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well I do know this is an old thread but i just wanted to post that I have used this tek and it indeed works. Since there are no pictures here are a few of my last extraction.
I can get 2.5 grams from 40grams of seeds within 24 hours. Just do a hot water bath on the water seed mixture strain and heat then salt and refrigerate for 24 hours then in the freezer for 1 hour pour off liquid and evap. Repeat 2-3 more times
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tektonic
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Re: Syrian Rue Extraction Tek [Re: Shea25]
#11985259 - 02/07/10 10:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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sweet! be very careful with that stuff!
don't eat it before you goto bed, i mixed that stuff with Calea zacatechichi (way too much of both) went to bed and ended up spending the last 5 days in the hospital
i ended up going uncouncious for 36 hours, i was in terrible pain so i went to the ER and my blood turned to like 8% lactic acid, they IV'd over 20 liters of saline into my blood to rinse it out. while i was there my lungs stoppped inhaling from the pain. worst shit i've ever done. and now i need months of pyshical therapy
a little goes a long way, don't eat it before bed no matter what
not to scare you, just was the first time i ever ate anything that had that stuff in it almost killed me
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Re: Syrian Rue Extraction Tek [Re: tektonic]
#11985359 - 02/07/10 11:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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My friend the other day tried 300mg. what would be too much in your opinion
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tektonic
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Re: Syrian Rue Extraction Tek [Re: Shea25]
#12003755 - 02/10/10 04:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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not sure didn't measure @ all
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