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nick-onelove
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Question on Psilocin/Psilocybin Content During Different Stage of Growth
#12003062 - 02/10/10 03:02 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't know if this question is advanced enough for "Advanced Mycology" and at four grows I' certainly not an experienced grower so mods please move/delete this is if necessary. Anyway my understanding of shrooms is that by the time they're about pinkie-finger height, they've grown all the cells they're going to, then they inflate those cells with moisture sucked up from the mycelium. Correct me if I'm wrong.
So my question is; have they created all the psilocin/psilocybin they're going to produce by the time they've finished growing all their cells? Or do they gain more of the magic from the moisture they suck from the mycelium?
I hope that made sense and I'm not just talkin' crazy. Thanks a lot, guys.
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Re: Question on Psilocin/Psilocybin Content During Different Stage of Growth [Re: nick-onelove]
#12003211 - 02/10/10 03:23 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't know, but I'm wondering how different the trip is between different levels of psilocin/psilocybin. In the past when I've done shrooms, I bought them from people and had some bad trips, mental confusion and stuff like that. Since I've grown my own, all I've had were very pleasant trips with great mental clarity.
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nick-onelove
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Re: Question on Psilocin/Psilocybin Content During Different Stage of Growth [Re: CycleThoughts]
#12003260 - 02/10/10 03:30 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wouldn't know sorry, I've only ever eaten one's I've grown myself.
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Re: Question on Psilocin/Psilocybin Content During Different Stage of Growth [Re: CycleThoughts]
#12003749 - 02/10/10 04:46 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry I can't answer the original question, but I can speak to the potency of the mushrooms effecting a trip. I have eaten as much as a quarter in one sitting, and have tripped the same as when I ate these really potent mushrooms that 1 gram did the trick. So I would say the potency does have noticeable effect.
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Re: Question on Psilocin/Psilocybin Content During Different Stage of Growth [Re: mrfluffhead]
#12004260 - 02/10/10 06:20 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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mrfluffhead said: Sorry I can't answer the original question, but I can speak to the potency of the mushrooms effecting a trip. I have eaten as much as a quarter in one sitting, and have tripped the same as when I ate these really potent mushrooms that 1 gram did the trick. So I would say the potency does have noticeable effect.
Obviously potency is going to make a difference. My question is the different trips between the different levels of psilocybin vs. psilocin.
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nick-onelove
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Re: Question on Psilocin/Psilocybin Content During Different Stage of Growth [Re: CycleThoughts]
#12004399 - 02/10/10 06:41 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damnit I'm not even talking about potency. I want to know if shrooms have all the psilocin/psilocybin that they're going to have once they've made all their cells. Or if they gain more magic from the moisture they suck from the mycelium to inflate aforementioned cells, which is why shrooms grow so fast once they're about pinkie-finger sized.
Am I crazy here? Does anyone get what I'm saying?
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Re: Question on Psilocin/Psilocybin Content During Different Stage of Growth [Re: nick-onelove]
#12004872 - 02/10/10 07:51 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yea, it's not a difficult questions. If the potency of a mushroom is reached when they're only pinky-sized, you could just harvest them, because there would be no point in waiting, because potency wouldn't increase. I guess you would have to isolate a clone, then harvest half at pinky-size, then wait until the others matured. Then measure the amount of psilocin/psilocybin in each batch based on mushroom count, instead of weight. Of course you would have to grow these with the same grains/subs and under the same conditions to truly get an accurate reading.
I don't know the answer, but I have 2 points.
People say aborts are more potent, so maybe your theory is correct, but more importantly, who cares? How much longer do you have to wait for them to go from pinky-sized to fully mature, a few days? Unless you're mass producing thousands of pounds a week, I don't see it being beneficial to know. If there is a reason, enlighten me.
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nick-onelove
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Re: Question on Psilocin/Psilocybin Content During Different Stage of Growth [Re: CycleThoughts]
#12004947 - 02/10/10 08:03 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ah. that's the answer I was looking for, thank you. And no, there's no reaon, just curious.
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Re: Question on Psilocin/Psilocybin Content During Different Stage of Growth [Re: nick-onelove]
#12010491 - 02/11/10 04:56 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Total active content continues to increase until they are harvested or quit growing. Potency however will decrease as they grow since synthesis of actives does not keep up with weight gain.
The advice is still the same tired advice you've heard before. Harvest just before or after the veil breaks. Any other time and you're being wasteful.
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nick-onelove
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Re: Question on Psilocin/Psilocybin Content During Different Stage of Growth [Re: fastfred]
#12010674 - 02/11/10 05:27 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for the scientific answer, I'll just stick to the old veil indicator.
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Re: Question on Psilocin/Psilocybin Content During Different Stage of Growth (moved) [Re: nick-onelove]
#12045430 - 02/17/10 08:51 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.
Reason: Off topic in advanced mycology. Pick at the large pin stage at or just before veil break for best potency.
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Re: Question on Psilocin/Psilocybin Content During Different Stage of Growth (moved) [Re: nick-onelove]
#12045445 - 02/17/10 08:55 AM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just eat the mushroom dammit.
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nick-onelove
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Re: Question on Psilocin/Psilocybin Content During Different Stage of Growth (moved) [Re: Breakfast Crew]
#12050540 - 02/17/10 09:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Breakfast Crew said: Just eat drink the mushroom dammit.
I prefer ginger-shroom tea.
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