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Re: expert advise needed on shrooms and the law (moved) [Re: roaddog]
    #12053653 - 02/18/10 12:27 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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roaddog said:
well you have to pass through several locked doors to get anywhere in my house. i get those big heavy duty locks, because they have to have another warrant to pass through each lock




I don't think that's necessarily true.  If the warrant says they can search a one story blue house located at such and such an address, they can search the whole place.  If you don't let them through a door, they'll knock it down.  When I got searched, I had a locked closet, and they told me I could either give them the key, or they were going to knock it down.  My lawyer confirmed that this is common practice.


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Re: expert advise needed on shrooms and the law (moved) [Re: illuminati]
    #12053767 - 02/18/10 12:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

well that might be true, but i still like security. i was told that they have to have warrants for every lock. but i have been told lots of things in my life. I just try to keep the ship tight. thanks for clearimg bthat up for me. also it might be a state by state thing. ill do more resurch.

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Re: expert advise needed on shrooms and the law (moved) [Re: roaddog]
    #12053980 - 02/18/10 01:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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well that might be true, but i still like security. i was told that they have to have warrants for every lock. but i have been told lots of things in my life. I just try to keep the ship tight. thanks for clearimg bthat up for me. also it might be a state by state thing. ill do more resurch.





It might have something to do with whether or not you have roommates and their doors are locked.  I've heard something like that before, like if they think one person is committing a crime and they get a warrant to search their room and common rooms of the house, but not the others cause they don't have reason to suspect them.  Not sure, but I'm pretty sure if they had a warrant that said "Description: roaddog's house" they would search every room.

There's something else I'm trying to say, but I can't word it without it sounding retarded.  Maybe when the jwh wears off...


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Re: expert advise needed on shrooms and the law (moved) [Re: roaddog]
    #12064021 - 02/20/10 05:56 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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well you have to pass through several locked doors to get anywhere in my house. i get those big heavy duty locks, because they have to have another warrant to pass through each lock, as long as they don't find probable cause, in the first room they get too.




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Thanks for one of the best laughs I've had in some time. Had I not already pissed this morning I have little doubt I'd have lost control of my bladder.


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Re: expert advise needed on shrooms and the law (moved) [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #12064337 - 02/20/10 09:16 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
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roaddog said:
well you have to pass through several locked doors to get anywhere in my house. i get those big heavy duty locks, because they have to have another warrant to pass through each lock, as long as they don't find probable cause, in the first room they get too.




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Thanks for one of the best laughs I've had in some time. Had I not already pissed this morning I have little doubt I'd have lost control of my bladder.



ya, it was just some shit i was told, but if it put a smile on your face it was wourth it.glad to make you laugh, wouldnt want to make you piss yourself, though. lol. but I'm still anal about the lock think. Another reason i do it, is i don't want to drag my wife down with me. i figure that if everything is locked, and she don't have a key. she should be safe to say, i have no idea what the hell he is doing. ill need her later to go dig up the bond money i got barred.do you think this is the right way to think? we live on a farm, i grow some many things, like big gardens, fields of corn, dozens of farm animals. she is just supposed to say, how the hell can i keep up in what he is doing.

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Re: expert advise needed on shrooms and the law (moved) [Re: roaddog]
    #12066170 - 02/20/10 03:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

While the IRS has a spousal liability rule that says if the spouse doesn't know of incorrect or fraudulent information on a return they are not criminally liable, I'm not sure how you'd make out in your case. Sorry, but I just don't know. I doubt it'd help though.

Think about it, locks on every door and the wife didn't know what was going on? Doesn't seem too plausible.

A lock on a single door, maybe. Why not do whatever you're doing in a garage, shed or the basement?

Cop:What was your husband doing in the basement?
Wife: How the hell would I know, there are spiders down there!


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: expert advise needed on shrooms and the law (moved) [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #12067038 - 02/20/10 06:24 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

very good insight. maybe that makes more sense, ill apply that. at least take the unnecessary locks off. thanks.:thumbup:

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Re: expert advise needed on shrooms and the law (moved) [Re: roaddog]
    #12069323 - 02/21/10 02:28 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Keep your locks.  Locks are good.

Like you mentioned they can't say you're in possession of something if you don't have a key to the room it's in. (obviously null for the owner/leasholder)

They also give you a legal advantage.  Cops can't lie and say you gave consent when there's a kicked in door.

You can also say you rent the room out, etc..

Warrants are valid depending on how they're written.  If they have a warrant for "roaddog's domicile" and you tell them that room isn't yours and it's someone else's home they can't search it.  If it just lists your address they probably can.

But when they get a warrant it's usually tied to a person since somehow they got evidence that YOU have something illegal there.  The warrant also has to have
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of a crime.  If there's a lock on the door it's hard to say how there would be specific evidence that something illegal is in that room.  If it's locked then how would someone without a key know what's in it?


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Re: expert advise needed on shrooms and the law [Re: sidewinder]
    #12115885 - 02/28/10 07:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

How hard is it to keep things on the down-low? I mean really, learn to keep your mouth shut. Especially so early.

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