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 LeopardMan
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 Re: How LM makes his cakes  [Re: 3n1gm4]
#13956118 - 02/13/11 02:22 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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No, just keep misting and fanning. Maybe next time you can experiment with this tek but not this time. Good luck.
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 Mushroom_J
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: LeopardMan]
#14023054 - 02/24/11 10:54 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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So... after full colonization you still do the consolidation period in the jars? or heat shock for the consolidation period?
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LeopardMan
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: Mushroom_J]
#14023845 - 02/25/11 02:27 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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"The heat shock will start only once full colonization has been reached. It will last 7-10 days and at any rate until the end of the consolidation period".
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slapphappypill
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: LeopardMan]
#14401919 - 05/04/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wanted to bring this thread back because it is very relevant to my last grow!
Reading through this, I realized that the cakes in my F+ grow originally were not dunked, misted after rolled in verm, forgot about for 12 hours, then heavily misted and fanned for the next 1.5 weeks. I was seeing 7+ dry grams per cake (these fruits are very small but 5 times more potent than my regular cubes)
Thanks LeopardMan! You helped me explain my perfect cake in my avatar!
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FYI: I stole all my pix off google! F+ PORN! Here is a shit-ton of porn by yours truly!
I have FINALLY written up a couple teks as to how SHP has done things in the past. DISCLAIMER: This is not for the newbie to mycology, and not going to work for everyone! This is simply what works for one person when other teks and methods have failed miserably!
~~~~~How SHP does their unconventional WBS Prep!! (NO DRY METHOD)~~~~
~~~~~SHP's highly disputed method of doing ALL their work outside of a flow hood or a Still air box!~~~~~
~~~~~Troubles harvesting the side and bottom pins in your mono? Learn how!! Dunking included ;-)~~~~~
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MondoMyco
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: LeopardMan]
#14777313 - 07/16/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wanted to bump this thread as I and many other had questions about pinning cakes and was sent here. I will be following up with this tek.
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When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
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Baron_Fel
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: MondoMyco]
#14784026 - 07/17/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Definitely going to try this when I start my first grow in a couple days.
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Barakanaten
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: Baron_Fel]
#14827987 - 07/26/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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mycosapien
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: LeopardMan]
#15283552 - 10/26/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey, newly registered but have lurked occasionally for years. I have read through this tek and many others inorder to gauge my options. Sorry to necro this thread but this tek intrigues me. The heatshock seems obvious from an ecological/niche perspective (As I believe it was already pointed out Psylocybe cubensis is a tropical species which fruits in summer, so therefore shouldn't indoor cultivation mimic these conditions so as to work with the organisms natural history/habit). I think alot of times people can get absorbed in the created world, lost in their little "labs" and forgot that Nature contains within it both the question and the answer, if only we are willing to let go of the egotism and infallibility that all to often permeates knowledge and learn to look. Wouldn't you agree?
Now is the purpose of the "heatshock" simply to dry out the myceliated substrate? This may sound like im being overly frugal but I lack access to any suitable heatsource and or the means to purchase a new one so I was wondering, do you suppose birthing midway through consolidation and placing in a terrerium with low RH but high CO2 (imagine a simple opaque plastic bin w/ lid)for the remainder of consolidation would achieve similar effects to using a heatbomb with cakes still invitro? It appears to me drying is what one wants, and (pardon the pun) there is more than one way to skin a cat, no?
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When I heard the learn’d astronomer;
When the proofs, the figures, were ranged in columns before me;
When I was shown the charts and the diagrams, to add, divide, and measure them;
When I, sitting, heard the astronomer, where he lectured with much applause in the lecture-room,
How soon, unaccountable, I became tired and sick; 5
Till rising and gliding out, I wander’d off by myself,
In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time,
Look’d up in perfect silence at the stars. - Walt Whitman
Edited by mycosapien (10/26/11 11:01 PM)
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OnePerEyeM8
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: mycosapien]
#15284138 - 10/27/11 12:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would be worried that the cakes wouldn't dry out anywhere near as much under the conditions you touched on as they would if they were heated. But I don't really have anything to base that on. You never know for sure until you try 
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LeopardMan
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: mycosapien]
#15284933 - 10/27/11 08:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
mycosapien said:
Hey, newly registered but have lurked occasionally for years. I have read through this tek and many others inorder to gauge my options. Sorry to necro this thread but this tek intrigues me. The heatshock seems obvious from an ecological/niche perspective (As I believe it was already pointed out Psylocybe cubensis is a tropical species which fruits in summer, so therefore shouldn't indoor cultivation mimic these conditions so as to work with the organisms natural history/habit). I think alot of times people can get absorbed in the created world, lost in their little "labs" and forgot that Nature contains within it both the question and the answer, if only we are willing to let go of the egotism and infallibility that all to often permeates knowledge and learn to look. Wouldn't you agree?
Now is the purpose of the "heatshock" simply to dry out the myceliated substrate? This may sound like im being overly frugal but I lack access to any suitable heatsource and or the means to purchase a new one so I was wondering, do you suppose birthing midway through consolidation and placing in a terrerium with low RH but high CO2 (imagine a simple opaque plastic bin w/ lid)for the remainder of consolidation would achieve similar effects to using a heatbomb with cakes still invitro? It appears to me drying is what one wants, and (pardon the pun) there is more than one way to skin a cat, no?
The purpose of the heatshock is to dry out the sub without exposing it to FAE. Basically I mantain that a low water content in the substrate for a short period of time (7-10 days) acts as a major pinning trigger. Unfortunately, after almost two years I have yet to see someone who actually tried this tek the way I conceived it  I guess the heatbomb is not very popular on these boards 
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russhroom
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: 3n1gm4]
#15284949 - 10/27/11 08:09 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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3n1gm4 said:
If my cakes have already been dunked and rolled could I get similar results from letting them dry with no misting until I see pins, then slowly re-hydrating. They are in FC at 95+% humidity already though. Been there for almost 6 days now with no signs of pinning. But I do have 4 slow jars that I might try this method with on a couple of them. Nice post!
that picture in your sig with the tea cups, is that artwork for sale?
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Gorguss
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: LeopardMan]
#16154524 - 04/29/12 08:09 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you wanted to "heat shock your cakes, would it be fine to use an incubator at a lower temperature?
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OnePerEyeM8
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: Gorguss]
#16155585 - 04/29/12 02:17 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I used a tub in tub (TiT) incubator turn up extra high to heat shock cakes in the grow in my signature.
If you have more cakes than will fit around a single one of Ohmatic's Heatbombs, you can just put the jars along with the heatbomb inside a plastic tub. The heatbomb will raise the temperature to the same degree, if not higher, than a TiT (and without the pain of making a TiT!).
Only reason I didn't do it in that grow is because it hadn't occurred to me yet.
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kdmmontana
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: OnePerEyeM8]
#16156051 - 04/29/12 04:04 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have begun using the method of heating the jars a day or so before pull them. Not heat as in "damn thats hot niggah" but warm...I usually put them in a tub of warm water..keep em warm..cosy during the entire birthing and dunking and that seems to do it..
Cold is bad ive learned..25-26 c is great..:P
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LeopardMan
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: OnePerEyeM8]
#16156533 - 04/29/12 05:49 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Gorguss said:
If you wanted to "heat shock your cakes, would it be fine to use an incubator at a lower temperature?
What my friend OnePerEyeM8 said.
Give it a try and report back Do not forget that the purpose is not to keep them warm, but to dry them 
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Gorguss
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: LeopardMan]
#16176172 - 05/03/12 11:05 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you. And My incubator is an actual egg incubator my parents no longer wanted, so I took it lol. Its been laying around the house until now. all I need to do is take the racks out. and i should be able to fit all 24 of my jars 
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plurfekt
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: Gorguss]
#20470428 - 08/24/14 03:04 PM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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time for a bumpp
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blackdust
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: LeopardMan]
#21071524 - 01/05/15 02:27 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I remember reading this a few weeks ago.
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LeopardMan
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: blackdust]
#21071530 - 01/05/15 02:28 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hope you liked it blackdust 
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blackdust
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Re: How LM makes his cakes [Re: LeopardMan]
#21071545 - 01/05/15 02:32 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I did. It's the creativity and ideas that I like. Not to mention the amazing pics!
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