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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: Dilauded]
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How CAN you have a bad trip?


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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: scotsman1]
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I have never had a bad trip, but more like "just freaked out". This has happened a few times, like one time I was on acid - my sly then-boyfriend decided to go to a 711 to get slushies for all of us, and when he came back I was downstairs (I think just wandering around admiring my house, lol) and he saw me alone through a window and came around to the back of the house and knocked on the door - I freaked out because I could only see his hand and I thought someone was breaking in.

And in december, my dad kind of ruined my trip when he came home and started yelling at me and shit, but I was totally out there. He knows I trip, but he'd never seen me tripping that crazy. Hes a pretty dramatic guy, and threw stuff and threw a glass of wine right across from my face and it hit the wall and broke. I started crying, and got hysterical about not being able to find my other sock, and kept yelling something about getting my friend to pick me up but it was like 2 in the morning. In the midst of that though, I was still tripping and enjoying the trip (in a twisted way). Never had a bad trip... at least not the whole 'acid-demons and objects turning into hell' sort of bad trip.


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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: Lyena]
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I`ve luckily never had any bad experiences on any psychedelics.
I sometimes feel a little uneasy but never bad.
Even on the hardest experiences I normally only feel anxious.
I`ve never actually experienced any bad halucinations or anything.
It`s also alot about your mindset, stay positive and the experience will be positive.

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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: DERRAYLD]
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ive never had a bad trip... ive had bad parts in a bunch of my trips. but the bad hve never conquered the best of me and the rest of my trip


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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: scotsman1]
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I most likely would. I used to enjoy mushrooms frequently when I was younger, never had a bad trip. Around 19ish I took some more mushrooms after a couple year break and had a bad trip and didn't completely sober up until a week went by and I got some sleep. Took some acid and other drugs was fine until a heroic dose of LSD and mescaline then I went psychotic and didn't sleep very much for 3 months. Turns out I was bipolar all along and I switched from type 2 to type 1 and symptoms got a lot worse so I haven't tripped since, but looking back it always made me manic so I would probably have a bad trip out of 10.

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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: thesickboy]
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It's like a 20/80 for me bad to good but I dont have a bad trip the whole time when it is bad. The times I do have bad experience it can last about a half hour/ hour of fixating on something that I shouldn't be. In the situation I have a bad experience I try to move around or look at cool trees or bushes and try to nudge my way out of it. So I guess I can say when I have bad experiences I try focusing on something else as best as I can and eventually the high kicks in and I'll start laughing again and going about my experience happily. I also never trip alone that could be a big cause too or depending if the person you are with freaks you out when you are high can be a big factor.

I should also mention I've had bad experiences that have put me in a bad mood overall and just want the trip to end early because I'm just not in the mood to trip at that point. You'll master your use.

Once I had to go to cvs in the middle of nowhere to buy my girlfriend tampons on 3 grams. Felt like I was in a space ship and laughed the entire way in and out holding it so damn hard so It didnt look like i was laughing at the employee. Lol so try avoiding those situations too.


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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: Mneeb] * 2
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You want to know what a REALLY bad trip is like?Okay then...

Imagine yourself getting completely convinced that you're a butt of some elaborate cosmic joke,existence is pointless and whatever is pulling the strings to feel you this way is beyond your comprehension everything feels utterly hopeless,how can you trust anything when you can't even trust your own mind you're in your own personal hell until it ffinally wears off

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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: oceanman]
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4 guys each on 4 hits of very strong, dirty acid lost in a cave system. We had one flashlight and one book of matches. I had other bad trips but none with such sheer terror.


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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: InfraredRick]
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Never a bad trip. Some unpleasant moments but not often and far from enough to ruin an entire trip. I'd say about 99.9% of the time everything is just right


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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: oceanman]
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In case no one else noticed, this thread is over 16 years old......




But out of 250+ trips over the past 11+ years, I've had only 2 experience that I'd label "bad"....

.....long story, but each time it was mostly because I became a little "delusional" (tho to be honest, I don't firmly believe they were actually delusions lol, [says the delusional person lol])

Here's a trip report from one of those times>>>> First "bad time" after 9 years & 100+ trips




I've had quite a handful of other trips where, if other people where "me" and in my shoes during the trip, I'm sure other people would consider it a "bad trip"...but for me it was just part of working with psychedelics, something that comes with the territory.

For me...I consider a "bad trip" to be mostly when one is out of control/out of their mind, delusional, when the fight or flight response is pumping away with adrenaline...And/or when the setting is excruciatingly uncomfortable.....

....but dealing with past traumas, old bad memories coming up to the surface...internal, personal, or existential issues...those sorts of things, even if they're incredibly uncomfortable and painful to deal with and go through, those sorts of things I do not consider "bad" in anyway, I consider those sorts of things to be at the core of the psychedelic experience.








oceanman said:
You want to know what a REALLY bad trip is like?Okay then...

Imagine yourself getting completely convinced that you're a butt of some elaborate cosmic joke,existence is pointless and whatever is pulling the strings to feel you this way is beyond your comprehension everything feels utterly hopeless,how can you trust anything when you can't even trust your own mind you're in your own personal hell until it ffinally wears off





While I don't feel existence is pointless, and I don't feel I exist in my own personal hell, to me most of what you describe just sounds like aspects of an ordinary typical trip for me :shrug: .







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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: openmind]
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In my mind, there aren't really bad trips or good trips, that is as an either/or type thing. The side effects of psychedelics can be at times pleasurable and at times not, and once we're talking about a good liftoff dose for your drug of choice you're going to run into the effects that most people like and the effects that most people don't.

For me, 'bad' trips are just the ones where you're faced with heavy realizations, delusional or real. That, or you plan poorly and end up tripping in a situation where you really shouldn't be tripping- confusing sober people by talking to them (leading to a goofy, dangerous feedback loop of confusion between both parties), getting into a bad situation, worrying about something in your life. But as far as 'normal' bad trips, with thought loops and breakthroughs and amnesia, I think it just takes a specific kind of person to navigate that place in the mind. It usually doesn't get 'bad' for me, per se, but it does get almost humorously confusing and shocking. I think 'weird trip' is more truthful than 'bad trip' for the most part, especially because qualifying things as good and bad starts to make less and less sense to the brain on acid and can lead you down some rabbit hole.

Exploration is good, weirdness is good. These are the characteristics that stand out in most people's 'bad' trips, so I think the term is a little bit shitty.

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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: openmind]
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openmind said:
Here's a trip report from one of those times>>>> First "bad time" after 9 years & 100+ trips



Man, I can relate to that. On my bigger trips that initial panic is always there but I've always managed to overcome it. I've had that paranoia creep up
after a few times though. Threw away all my cultivation stuff because of it once.


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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: Asura]
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1 true bad trip out of a few hundred trips. It was on black gooey degraded 4-aco-dmt


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Never really have had a bad trip! My set and setting is usually always on point. Usually around nature, either on a hike or hammock hanging. Usually hike during the comeup and hang for the peak. Works out well that way, because the comeup is much different when you're walking around.

Last time though, I went to a state park and did some trails, and this park kind of leads into peoples backyards in a sense but they're cut off. Very rich neighborhood, houses are huge, yards are even bigger. Well as soon as I set my hammock up, laid down in it after taking my shoes off, I hear a lawnmower going off.. now this was so fucking annoying.

I laid there hoping it wasn't going to last long.. but fuck.. took me 40 mins until I finally said fuck it. But I was in such a bad mood after that. And I knew the mushrooms were just making it worse because I was so focused on my aggression forward that situation.

I kicked it eventually. But my peak sucked because of that damn lawnmower. And it wasn't one of those quite ones, this fucking thing was like a car. Extremely annoying.  All I wanted to do was spend my peak listening to the birds and the wind, after a long week of work.

Really got me in the feels. But, I'll be able to make up for it tomorrow!


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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast] * 1
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1 bad and 1 just didn’t have fun out of like two dozen


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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: Eatshroomsoften]
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One bad trip so far, it broke joyously and disolved my ego conciously for the first time and then it was good. A happy rebirth, discovered unconditional love, know my self and body better.
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looking back on it the bag was a mix of cubes and pan cyans.

It was crazy, thought i was going to die but it was really an impending ego death. Dread, sheer terror, there was lightening in the sky, thunder.

My heart opened on the first dissolution, unconditional love, after that I willingly disolved my ego over and over happily. No more fear of death.

It felt like true initiation and I dont think its possible to have a bad trip after that.


Edited by High Night Expanse (06/16/19 02:54 PM)

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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: High Night Expanse]
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There isn't such a thing called a "Bad trip" you experience discomfort from the spiritual energy that surrounds you. What the psychedelics do is tap your brain into that energy.


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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: CypressRage] * 1
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Not completely convinced about spiritual energy having anything to do with tripping.
I've had a couple of trips go sideways, ended up in hospital one time on acid and arrested another time on mushrooms. I'd call them bad. Several other difficult experiences have left me in a puddle on the floor grasping desperately for sanity. Much easier to integrate and recover from when you come to in the comfort of your own home. That's from hundreds of trips over a long time.


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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: CypressRage]
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David Nichols stated that regardless of set there is a 10% chance of a uncomfortable experience.

Makes sense to me, people don't rock climb or jump out of perfectly good planes because it doesn't have it's risks and rewards. :justdontknow:

The first time I did mushrooms I had a blaring bright light constantly pulsating into the corner of my right eye closest to my ear for 80% of the time. I would say it was more annoying than bad. A total mind fuck, Like water torcher. Didnt do any indols for a good decade after that. :kimjong: 

I had to many bad trips after my wife passed so I have allot of practice and conditioning on how to recognize the beginning of it. It never really gets easier but the nature of the beast stays the same and familiar.

Anytime I get to the point of this is no fun, oh boy 5 more hours of this; I just give up and be like, fine, have your way, i'll just sit here and take it, do your worst. A few times I remember crawling around in the dark yelling at the universe, "Is that all you got because I'm not impressed!" (followed by a insane laughing session that is oddly close to the part in the beginning of darkside of the moon )

"All one can do when death comes smiling is to just smile back."

Unlike LSD, with mushrooms I find the first hour or two of discomfort is the toll I pay for crossing over to whatever it is and except it as the right of passage when it happens.
It just sucks, at the time, when it lasts the whole duration. :icecreamsadness:

Funny part is the next day I'm already counting the hours till day three to dive back in. :lmafo:

I have also noticed on mushrooms that redosing later than 2 hours in triggers a bad time so I quit doing that and just full dose at start. I also learned a cute method of  starting out with acid then take some shrooms 6 hours later to fill in the missing blanks, smooth out the visuals and add some humor.  :chesire:

I agree when Terrence mckenna's wife said mushrooms and ayahuasca are the masochists choice of psychedelics. Shit can go so wrong in the right way. :awesomenod:


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Re: how many bad trips you had [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
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Every high dosed mushroom trip gets pretty intense and uncomfortable at times. Never had a difficult lsd trip though


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