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Offline3eyedgod
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Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts
    #1198230 - 01/07/03 04:14 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I have no idea. What do you think?


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Without everything wouldn't nothing be everything and without nothing wouldn't everything be nothing.I am the beginning and the end,the source and the void, the light and the darkness,i am but a small drop of the ocean yet i am an ocean unto myself


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1198244 - 01/07/03 04:17 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Depends what you're talking about.
If we're flipping through your high school algebra book or counting Grandma Bee's pies, then yah, it's all equal.
If you're looking at a fully assembled, fifty foot, five hundred ton kill-bot with fully functioning death lasers and planet exploding fusion rockets, then I guess it's a bit bigger than the pieces you make it outta.



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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: Servator]
    #1198308 - 01/07/03 04:43 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I liked the way you put it. You're so imaginative, so descriptive.

So did you start writing a book yet.


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: Servator]
    #1198329 - 01/07/03 04:54 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Yea, tell us more about this Kill-Bot  :smile:


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1198358 - 01/07/03 05:14 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

your asking for absolutes which is always hard. I like to think of thing on some basic, life or no life levels that have some basis in reality....

For instance, your in a tribe of people and your wandering about (a very likely scenario for our ancestors) and an opposing, enemy tribe who wants to fuck you up is also about. One of your tribes infants starts to scream bloody murder because it is sick or just hungry and you HAVE TO be stealthy. Do you kill that child to save the tribe? Unfortunatly I think I would though only as a last resort. Then, there is the possibility that each human is the possible "messiah" or the one to come up with the cure for cancer, or the leader who would oneday dominate the other tribes.

All in all it's one of those deals that there is no black and white answer to. That's what makes being a human cool.... :tongue:


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1198366 - 01/07/03 05:19 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

It's in the eye of the beholder.


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: Servator]
    #1198376 - 01/07/03 05:23 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

LOL =)


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: upupup]
    #1198427 - 01/07/03 05:44 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I understand your point about there being no "black or white answer"(I'm gonna take a big leap and assume that by this you mean definative answer). However the example you used has no relevance to the question at hand.


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1198453 - 01/07/03 05:56 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

i think the whole is usually greater than the sum of the parts.
simple example- fractions 1/3 is .3333333 with repeating threes on into infinity,
add up 3 thirds(1) and you find the sum of .333333x3 is .99999 on into infinity, so,
when the parts come together they  round up to 1, an almost neglectable round up, but an undeniable one.
another quick one- a global ecological system, alone, each species is unique, beautiful, and priceless, the sum of all these parts is an increidable amount, but the way they all come togethe, all reliant upon each other/keeping each other in balance, makes their sum much more than incredible, it makes the sum divine.

peace out. :smirk:


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1198473 - 01/07/03 06:02 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

However the example you used has no relevance to the question at hand.

Huh? How is not the analogy of the baby relavent? The baby represents the singular while the tribe represents the whole....


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1198483 - 01/07/03 06:05 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

I liked the way you put it. You're so imaginative, so descriptive.

So did you start writing a book yet.




Oh I've probably started a good fifteen or twenty times.
It's finishing that's the bitch of it...
I actually may have something I don't want to throw away on reading though, and eerily enough, it's actually of a spiritual context two.
I think you guys are becoming a bad influence on me.
Pretty soon I'll probably start thinking there's more to life than beer and chicks...
:shudder:


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: Servator]
    #1198502 - 01/07/03 06:11 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

of course there's somthing more! spirit! and the door to spirit is... -all together now-
    ...psychedelics! :grin:


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: trippinlizard]
    #1198523 - 01/07/03 06:17 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

You've gotta be shittin me!  :shocked:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: Murex]
    #1198559 - 01/07/03 06:31 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

what am i shittin you about, senor?


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: Murex]
    #1198780 - 01/07/03 07:37 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

easy kids.... :tongue:


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1199354 - 01/08/03 03:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The further in you go, the bigger it gets.


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: trippinlizard]
    #1199371 - 01/08/03 03:41 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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what am i shittin you about, senor? 




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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1199378 - 01/08/03 03:46 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Is it all a circle, I'm a circle, you're a circle, we're all a circle! In other words it is always the same. Fundamentally everything is made of energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only converted. So on a fundamental level everything is equal!

Either that or I'm loopy


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1199770 - 01/08/03 07:51 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Is a shovel more than a piece of wood and a flat piece of metal? Most people would tend to think that these two pieces in this particular shape are more useful than any other shape that would not let you dig. That is until somebody comes along and says what a wonderful piece of art you have there or uses the new shape to do something altogether different and equally useful.

Like was said above it is in the eye of the beholder. The possibilities are infinite so I will say yes unless you are totally ignoring the two pieces it will always be more than the sum of it's parts.

Mutual dependence creates totally new things and it is our ability to see these new things that allows us to drive cars and go to the moon. Most people will ignore these things just going about thinking of useless shit.

It is exactly the ability to see things in a new light that gives psychedelics their power. Now your everyday world has infinite possibilities and you can learn more from a pattern in your jeans than years of schooling or church.


Edited by phreakyzen (01/08/03 08:21 AM)


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Re: Is the whole greater than or equal to the sum of it's parts [Re: phreakyzen]
    #1199962 - 01/08/03 09:11 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Hi!  I'm sorry I didn't welcome you when you first arrived. :smile:

Welcome to SPS! :smile:  Please read the "Be Nice" policy if you haven't done so already.

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